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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 10:06 PM
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Trauma TV
Edited on Thu Jun-29-06 10:14 PM by undergroundpanther
Speaking of America's Battered Wife Syndrome?
http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0911-28.htm

One way an abusive asshole keeps a victim(in this case America and Americans) cowered is to TERRORIZE them and Re-traumatize them..TV is a way an abusive shit head can influence the social environment of every home.
What makes the BIG difference between healing catharsis and destructive retraumatization,or the sick unleashing of “unhealthy passions”? One important point not considered in the media and violence studies, is what is the meaning of the violence.What meaning has it assigned to it?

About Retraumatization
http://sidran.org/anna.html

What is the MEANING of these violent TV reports?
Does TV news give us a meaning? Or is it all left hanging, as an out of context tragedy? Do we have the time to process it and form our own meaning in the fast pace of TV programming?

TV today is so much how like life is inside an abusive home is like..It's scary..For "entertainment" daddy gets drunk beats the hell out of mommy.(what a real life drama).Afterwards we all pretend it never happened (shows over nothing to see ,now lets go get a snack) We switch contexts swiftly, so daddy won't get mad and beat us all senseless for speaking the truth to"power"(abuse of power that is), And it's another day of Escape from the ugly truth,denying our issues,through drugs,entertainment,work,distraction,denial and make believe..It all serves as a complex to keep a shithead unaccountable and the overwhelming pain away from conscious awareness inside us.

Tv News ..and another shit head on parade on CNN and the victim suffers,and a big pool of blood warning this is graphic.. ..Now,after we feel this unease and horror,and try to wrap a meaning around it..Quick,..Cue to commercial..Just after seeing a tragic event without a context or meaning we try to to make sense of it..On comes a LOUD AS SHIT car commercial,Invading our mind,shaking us out of assimilation and meaning making,THan some talking head spewing fluff about fashion..And We are not dealing with what we just saw,anymore..it gets scuttled away, to the unconscious ,brought out,scuttled away again where it invades our quiet moments and inner thoughts. TV news is like every Friday night in a home dominated by a drunk abuser, filled with terror,Monday morning it's time to go to school and study spelling,as IF you didn't see your mom get her face smashed in..IN the rapid fire media and lives we lead we are denied the time to assign meaning to Violence..Our brains have no time to process and form a context to the violence..It is so hard to heal when a river of abuse and distractions pours into our homes 24-7 via TV News.
Blood n guts sells but WHY?
What does all this violence MEAN to ME to YOU,To anyone??

What do these horrid news stories mean to you?

They show me that some people are so messed up inside they are dangerous..Bystanders are still unable,unwilling or too beaten down to risk standing up against evil people to defend their kids,defend their friends or communities. It's a tragic battered syndrome,abuse and retraumatization process that has infected our ENTIRE culture.It's not surprising when you realize how many people suffer a real life violent trauma in their lives..We are a society made up of many people and too many of us carry scars from private traumas and our cultural violence and craziness on TV reflects it back again and again,and still we cannot have a chance to assign a meaning to it....

TV news tells me the good people,vulnerable, the sensitive people in this world are made into targets to be battered by assholes who have too much power,charisma and loyal sycophants .. be it a family tyrant or a squatter in the white house .That I can no longer be a bystander a perpetrator or enabler of bullies,violence and abusers.I have to risk my own security sometimes to do the right thing.I got to take responsibility.

It shows me at first take,why people cannot be trusted so they have to prove they are trustworthy. Which reflects the reality I found myself stuck with when I got abused ,Right than everything changed. Complex PSTD has a way of doing that...Either way I cry over it..I cry over what has happened to us..at the hands of thoughtless brutes.The desensitization and isolation all of it..

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Softening the natural aversion to torture

Fear Factor to me looks like a show designed to paint torture as "entertainment". I myself cannot watch that show. It's too sick, sad and abusive. It makes me sick inside.

I look at all the torture in movies, in "comedy," video games. All this dehumanizing, embarrassing, shaming "secretly taped" videos, of people making fools of themselves, drunk, sick, stumbling, and a nation laughing at their misfortunes... This is abuse set up as "humor" and I myself really don't have to wonder anymore why people are numb to the horrible suffering, immorality, and blow-back implications of torture at Abu Ghraib. What you find funny or 'entertaining' these days says a lot about your character and dis/ability to empathize with people in pain. Rome had "fear factor" too, it was in the Coliseum.

Fear Factor and shows like that desensitize people psychologically to seeing people being tortured. It's a step-by-step desensitization process that has gone on for decades.

First it was horror movies: look at old horror movies, they were so ... innocent, and look at Hell-raiser. Can you see a difference? There are crime shows, Dragnet vs Forensic Files on Court TV. See a difference?

Now it's becoming torture live, done to "volunteers." Shows like Scare Tactics make sophisticated psychological gas lighting into just a prank. Remember the "bum fights" tapes, where assholes bribed desperate homeless people to beat each other up on camera for food? Is Fear Factor all that different? No-one considers the bad effects on a person's emotions of seeing people dehumanized, terrified, sick, sexually abused, and in pain as we go pretending it can't change us, fascinated by it as if it was "entertainment." If you asked if people thought torture was OK in the 1960s, how many would have been as gung ho, so brazenly for it as people are today?

Look at all the jokes about pedophiles these days. Funny how the kids are always couched as if they should lay down take it, or that they were just having fun, or should be blamed for it, while the pedophile is presented in almost a positive light. When did pedophilia become funny? I don't think it's funny at all. What about comedians talking about how they got the shit beat out of them as kids, as if that is funny? It's sad to me.

When did child abuse, torture, rape and trauma become grist for TV comics? When did America become so callous to suffering and abuse of others? How did it happen?

Maybe seeing hours and hours of dead bodies, news reports of tragedy and death, murder, pedophilia, rape and child abuse, blood and guts has made abuse and sadism appear "normal" in our collective unconscious. We see it every day, until eventually it ceases to shock and horrify. And when we no longer are appalled by fake torture, or disturbed by live volunteers getting tortured, real torture overseas won't seem so outrageous ... and soon torture next door will illicit a shrug and no emotion. Then what next? I guess torture in the home won't make people bat an eye (it already is a lot this way) because it is "normal" for people to abuse each other in relationships. We see it modeled every day on TV from childhood to adulthood.

Kids raised with abuse don't know there are homes where parents are not tyrants, and they have had so much trust stolen they can't believe all parents are not the same as theirs. As for rape, they will be told to get over it, get back to work. Victims will be told and they will believe that they liked it and asked for it. Already comics joke about kids seducing adults.

In an abusive home, when an abusive father beats up mom, that is seen as traumatizing to a child and it effects them for years. On TV, domestic violence is now seen as "entertainment"? How did that become "fun" to watch? Little kids, like 3 years old or so, have trouble telling what occurs on TV from what occurs in real life. And it looks like morally stupid Americans are not only emotionally not in touch, they seem to have problems distinguishing reality from fantasy, and it affects their moral character in the worst ways.

That is why the bully pundits and manipulative propagandists dominate what becomes "entertainment" and news. By making torture into a prank it diminishes the victims humanity, it discounts their voices, and it makes their need for human rights and the right to not be abused look unnecessary or even whiny.

When we can stomach the pain and humiliation done to "volunteers" on Fear Factor, it is so much easier for a desensitized moral and ethical idiot with no ethics or emotional intelligence beyond himself to rationalize and stomach the torture at Abu Ghraib, like a person with conduct disorders, authoritarian disorders, a bully or narcissist can. They are being trained to not relate to the traumatized as equal human beings like himself.

It is a desire of millions of bully minded people who want to abuse people and get away with it, manifesting their cruel desires. In life the bullies among us form gangs and terrorize others. That is their pattern -- they seek positions of power so they can be corrupt and untouchable. They have hurt whole nations in their pursuit of control.

This sociopath's desire to harm has worked into the general populace, producing a disconnected wavelength in a hive mind way.

TV is a tool to desensitize otherwise ethical Americans. It teaches them to accept torture, rape, pedophilia, and abuse as something other than what it is, removes their sense of ethics, and shuts up their empathy for victims. They either become bullies or bystander moral relativists who will not be able to articulate the revulsion they feel, the righteous indignation and outrage. They won't have the confidence or courage to stand up and say to a bully that torture is wrong, and say why it is wrong. They won't be able to stand up for the hurt and against the suffering with any backbone.

There need not be a evil secret cabal to do this to a nation. All it takes is a lot of self-serving sadistic sick assholes who can twist people's ethics and twist the very definitions of what is right and wrong. Bullies with entitlement attitudes who steal trust, narcissists who are of like minds with similar conduct disorders, overweening ambitions, control issues, narcissism, emotional retardation, and authoritarian personalities.

The sheer numbers who are enabled to get away with it by a nation of passive, sold-out, cowardly, self-serving, dishonest, empathy-stunted, traumatized, unprincipled, ignorant, willing-to-delude-themselves bystanders.

All it takes for evil to flourish is for good people to do NOTHING.

And we do a lot of nothing when atrocity is committed against human rights by sociopaths in positions of power.

The Democrat cowards just mimic the couch potato cowards, because none are bold enough to stand up and lead us away from by-standing and compromise with torture. We as a nation have lost our heart and soul, and we have consented to it.

And it was so "entertaining" to drink that funny poison in on TV, wasn't it? It will be loads of fun, I bet, when torturers get around to singling you out, or you are desperate enough to be bribed into "volunteering," and you get your 15 minutes of fame by suffering for "fun" on the TV coliseum.

You got what you wanted, a "good time" at others' expense. We all will have to pay eventually, when we lose touch with our humanity...

http://www.unknownnews.net/050122d-15up.html
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 10:08 PM
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1. All it takes for evil to flourish is for good people to do NOTHING.
But doing the wrong thing by calling dems cowards just mimic the couch potato cowards is a pretty loathsome act. What are you really up to?
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 10:22 PM
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6. When the news about Abu Gharib broke
Dems in power did not get outraged,immediately and pubklically and DENOUNCE the Bush admin. There was a delayed reaction.And that bothered me. Nowadays the Dems in power are more with it. And some people are couch potatoes ppreferring to not risk speaking out.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 10:33 PM
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8. Yes, seems so unreal at times. I could get depressed, but better angry
than depressed. Keeps me going.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 10:39 PM
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11. Anger
Is what keeps me from imploding too. Anger outrage and art, as in recreating BEAUTY.

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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 10:52 PM
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14. I have dogs cats and a child as release and beauty.
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 11:03 AM
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15. I had to go to the hospital when that happened
It wasn't the torture pics that drove me mad but the calm acceptance of it by coworkers.

I don't want to be sane if sanity means I have to think torturing and murdering innocent people is OK.

So I can speak out all I want, but my words will mean nothing because I'm nuts. I don't know what I can do about that.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 10:10 PM
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2. I think the Passion of the Christ 'softened' the viewers
to accept torture also.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 10:12 PM
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4. That Was A Pretty Good Movie. Bit Long Though.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 10:19 PM
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5.  Lars,I agree with you.
Edited on Thu Jun-29-06 10:23 PM by undergroundpanther
Why have a 45 minute scene of beatings and sadism?
Why show it in graphic detail? Jesus being the victim does not make it all of a sudden OK to witness torture on a big screen does it.
And Jesus was an innocent.An INNOCENT like a child being tortured.Think of the MEANING of that..and here we see an innocent tortured and it scars you the meaning I get is good people will suffer here suffer at the hands of evil people..and they should TAKE it.. ,Just because it was a religious context does not mean your unconscious sees it like your ego does.
Get past the religion iconery,it was torture being glorified.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 10:25 PM
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7. I've wondered how many young kids had to sit thru that movie.
Makes me sick thinking about it.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 10:37 PM
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9. As a kid
I freaked out seeing the jesus movies at easter,the crucifixions always upset me,stuff about Revelations disgusted me,the hymns like"washed in the blood of the lamb" horrified me and I would not sing it. I got kicked out of sunday school over hearing Noah's ark all I could think of were my pets drowning,if they were not picked to ride on the ark...and the movies and stories that upset me were mostly implied violence. To this day I cannot stand watching the guy getting his leg cut off in the civil war scene from Gone with the Wind. I had nightmares big time,and I saw it in the theater when I was like 6 or 7. I cannot imagine how horror stricken a child would be seeing the violence in the Passion.The gone with the Wind scene was not so graphic as a 45 minute torture scene . I didn't see the passion I would have flipped out and I know it.PSTD can change your perspective on torture.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 10:43 PM
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12. I remember that scene well. It was mostly done by shadows,iirc.
I definitely agree about the PSTD.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 10:12 PM
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3. This Is Just Wayyyyyyyyyy Out There.
And the Dems ain't couch potato cowards either.

Methinks you need to turn your T.V. off. Take a break bro.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 10:38 PM
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10. Just remembered an episode of the 4400 that really bothered me.
I generally have a very low threshold for violence. This is the only current series I watch. I wouldn't know most of the 'pop' tv shows if they came up and bit me. This episode had a guy being tortured for information by a government agency. Something was over his head and they were pouring gallons of water over him, practically drowning him. It was hard to believe that they were showing that...in essence, teaching the audience how to do it. I've often thought of the ways our society will change when some of the soldiers come back with some of these skills, but it never occurred to me that we'd be able to learn how by watching tv. Very disturbing.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 10:46 PM
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13. It is..
Edited on Thu Jun-29-06 10:47 PM by undergroundpanther
Torture is wrong. No amount of description of the emotional scars or PTSD or life long consequences can truly capture the devastating effects of torture. The aim of torture is NOT to kill people, it is to break their personality, to silence the internal voice, and to terrorize others in the community into compliance. It affects not only the person being tortured, but their families and communities as well. The impacts on society are immense. Torture disassembles any social framework, creating an inability to trust and intimacy issues within families.

http://alpinestar.gnn.tv/blogs/7235/On_Torture


How do tortuers learn to torture? By STUDYING it by studying howw trauma is healed, by studying and exploiting pain and pleasure.
By watching people..suffer.And today TV is full of suffering.
But it's called"entertainment" now.

http://www.thelmagazine.com/4/8/critique/critique.cfm
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