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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 12:00 PM
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Alito, Scalia, Thomas.
Is it a surprise to anyone that these three were the dissenting justices? Three very good reasons why the Dems MUST take back Congress in November.

Dissenting were justices Antonin Scalia, Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito. Scalia, in his dissenting opinion, used the word "mess" to describe the court's reasoning.

"The president's decision to try Hamdan before a military commission for his involvement with al Qaeda is entitled to a heavy measure of deference," said Thomas.

"It seems clear that the commissions at issue here meet the standard" established by the government to try the accused terrorists, Alito wrote.

Chief Justice John Roberts did participate in the case because he ruled on the case, in favor of the government, at the appellate level.


Roberts didn't vote because he handled the case before being on the SCOTUS. but thankfully even if he had voted, the fascists still would have lost this one.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 12:05 PM
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1. A judicial axis of evil.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 12:09 PM
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2. Has the SCOTUS always been so partisan?
I realize almost every President has had the opportunity to nominate at least one person to the SC. But I swear I remember people always wondering what a decision would be in almost evrey case. It seemed the judges really did try to interpret the laws in the best interest of the people. NOW, it seems like almost every case that's heard by the SCOTUS is decided based on Party line!

Was I just dreaming all those past years?
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 12:19 PM
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6. Just wait for it.
Frist and others will be on TV soon providing thoughtful analysis about how the part of the Constitution that makes international treaties the law of the land is, itself, unconstitutional.

Or something along those lines, and you can bet it will have something to do with "activist judges." :eyes:

The Frist fascism train is never late...
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 12:24 PM
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8. or like I was hearing all day yesterday...
The Constitution doesn't tell us exactly how many times we
have to follow...

It'll probably be along the lines of:

"The U.S. Constitution never mentions anything about the Geneva Convention..."
or
"The U.S. Constitution only mentions 'treaties' it is silent about 'Conventions'..."
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 03:02 PM
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17. It's been partisan from time to time...
It's been partisan from time to time; think back
to Roosevelt trying to expand the size of the court
when they were trying to block his New Deal changes.

Tesha
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 12:10 PM
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3. Why was it there was a "compromise" again?
*scratching head*
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 12:13 PM
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4. The Opus Dei Three
Edited on Thu Jun-29-06 12:14 PM by DoYouEverWonder
Where in Jesus's teachings does it say it's okay to hold prisoners indefinitely, try them in secret tribunals and torture them in the process?

These three are the big holy roller fundies on the court? Right?

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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 01:07 PM
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10. They're still defending the Spanish Inquisition. n/t
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 01:25 PM
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11. Nobody expects...


The Spanish Inquisition

-Hoot
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 02:35 PM
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15. I would include Roberts -- he just didn't vote this time.
But I bet I know how he WOULD have voted.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 02:40 PM
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16. They're the three big holy exploiters.
NGU.


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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 12:14 PM
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5. Axis of Evil
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 12:22 PM
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7. Clarence Thomas is an idiot
He always sticks to a conservative opinion, even when Scalia and Rehnquist disagreed, like in one of his first cases, where he was the only one on the court to rule that prison guards should be allowed to beat inmates without provocation. I don't even remember the case name, but all the other justices, including Scalia and Rehnquist, ruled that it was not okay.
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 12:26 PM
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9. Alito, Scalia, Thomas -- an Impeachment Trifecta waiting to happen...
Conflicts of interest, conspiracy with the Federalist Society to subvert the Constitutio, lying under oath...

:popcorn:
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 02:13 PM
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12. Did their reasoning start with a big huge "HUH"? Has any Supreme
Edited on Thu Jun-29-06 02:14 PM by applegrove
Court Ruling ever used such pedestrian words as "mess".
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 02:27 PM
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13. They are gonna do a lot of damage together n/t
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 02:34 PM
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14. Souter is an interesting case.
He was nominated by GBush Senior, and for a long time was considered "conservative." But since he dissented in the case of Bush vs. Gore, he's more usually voted with the liberals.

IMHO, he IS conservative, but Scalia and his pals are INSANE.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 03:04 PM
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18. RATS = Roberts , Alito, Thomas, Scalia
Edited on Thu Jun-29-06 03:04 PM by iconoclastNYC
Lets face it.

2 more seats and we'll have the Supreme Court blessing a Hilter style legal dictatorship in the USA.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 03:06 PM
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19. Scalia called the opinion a mess?
That's pretty rich from the guy who authored the Bush v. Gore opinion and joined in the opinion on the Texas redistricting case. "Mess" would be a step up for those two muddles.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 03:07 PM
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20. What makes you think the Dems won't keep supporting the far right?
Edited on Thu Jun-29-06 03:07 PM by depakid
They've passed on every single nominee and punted away almost every major issue.

I see no reason to believe that the DINO's in the party will stop enabling Republicans- and crossing over to vote with them, just because they retake the majority.
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