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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 08:47 PM
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The gift that keeps on giving: Now cancer's spreading in Iraq.
SPREADING CANCER
Submitted by davidswanson on Thu, 2006-06-29 00:55. Media
By Robert C. Koehler, Tribune Media Services

The unending game of "pretend" that the U.S. media allow George Bush to play on the global stage, so often letting his lying utterances hang suspended, unchallenged, in the middle of the story, as though they were plausible - as though a class of third-graders couldn't demolish them with a few innocent questions - feels like the journalistic equivalent of waterboarding. Gasp! Some truth, please!

I suggest the prez has forfeited the right to command a headline, or half a story, or an uninterrupted quote: ". . . we'll defend ourselves, but at the same time we're actively working with our partners to spread peace and democracy," he said last week in Austria.

Surely "spreading democracy" should no longer be allowed to appear in print, between now and 2008, unless accompanied by a parenthetical clarification ("not true," stated as profanely as local standards allow). And that, of course, would only be the media's first step back into integrity with the public.

The occupation of Iraq, the occupation of Afghanistan, the entire war (to promote) terror . . . please, please, can these no longer be trotted out in consequence-free abstraction, but as the high-tech malevolence they are, actively continuing the incalculable devastation of countries and their populations?

The bodies keep piling up, the toxic horrors spread. Hasn't anyone in this place ever heard of depleted uranium? Is the health crisis in Iraq and, indeed, throughout the Middle East and Central Asia, not to mention Kosovo and among returning vets for the last four American wars, somehow irrelevant to "the course" we're asked to stay?

"Two strange phenomena have come about in Basra which I have never seen before. The first is double and triple cancers in one patient. For example, leukemia and cancer of the stomach. We had one patient with two cancers - one in his stomach and kidney. Months later, primary cancer was developing in his other kidney - he had three different cancer types. The second is the clustering of cancer in families. We have 58 families here with more than one person affected by cancer. . . . My wife has nine members of her family with cancer."

This is Dr. Jawad Al-Ali, director of the oncology center at the largest hospital in Basra, speaking in 2003 at a peace conference in Japan. Why is it that only peace activists are able to hear people like this? Why hasn't he been asked to testify before Congress as its members debate the future of this war and the next?

"Children in particular are susceptible to DU poisoning," he went on. "They have a much higher absorption rate as their blood is being used to build and nourish their bones and they have a lot of soft tissues. Bone cancer and leukemia used to be diseases affecting them the most. However, cancer of the lymph system, which can develop anywhere on the body and has rarely been seen before the age of 12, is now also common."

Depleted uranium - DU - is the Defense Establishment euphemism for U-238, a byproduct of the uranium enrichment process and the ultimate dirty weapon material. It's almost twice as dense as lead, catches fire when launched and explodes on impact into microscopically fine particles, or "nano-particles," which are easily inhaled or absorbed through the skin; it's also radioactive, with a half-life of 4.468 billion years

The rest of the article is at: http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/12532


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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 08:52 PM
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1. This is what the Dems need to talk about..
What about the sanctity of life for the Iraqi people.....(wait of course they are not white christians so it doesn't matter)......

* has allowed hell to descend on this population....and he walks around without a plan to get our soldiers out and to rebuild ...he likes death and he likes the fact that he is causing it....
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 08:57 PM
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4. I'm not sure he "likes" the fact that he's causing it.....
he just doesn't care. It's not even on his radar.
And besides, this is just collateral damage. Shit happens when war happens. :sarcasm: :puke:
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 08:54 PM
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2. Thanks for posting this. n/t
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 09:05 PM
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6. No problem...
One of what must be a million horrible stories from that disaster that Americans are largely unaware of.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 08:55 PM
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3. Anyone surprised? I'm not. Nor are the more than 250,000 American
vets of Gulf I who hare sick and dying and finding out that the government that poisoned them doesn't give a fuck.

This is Agent Orange times ten thousand, and is one of the largest disgraces in our country's history.

But does anyone give a fuck? No. Nor will anyone give a fuck about those poor sick Iraqis...after all, our government doesn't even care about its own!

Redstone
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 09:04 PM
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5. the karma that we as american are building up by allowing this madman
to continue unimpeded is going to be a bitch. we are so screwed
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 09:08 PM
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8. I know....and it almost seems irreversible at this point.
I guess every great civilization has its Nero, its Waterloo. Looks like ours lies between the Tigris and Euphrates.
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 09:08 PM
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7. It's a heart-rending mess
A few years back when I was still working in a nursing home, I had an occasion to go to a VA hospital diabetes clinic. I found a notice that Agent Orange induced diabetes would now be covered for Vietnam era Vets. This was what, 25, 30, years later?

It literally makes me cry. I know, or I can guess what's coming home with our military.
The Iraqi people will be paying the health price for generations, I think, much like the Vietnamese people did and do.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 09:10 PM
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9. How did the U.S. let this crazed chimpanzee do this?
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 09:20 PM
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15. You want the truth? By being lazy, that's how. An election in ANY
other country that was stolen as brazenly as 2000 was, would have had the streets full or people, blood running in the gutters and all that.

But we sat back and took it. After all, there was a Super Bowl coming up, wasn't there?

It's our fault. I include myself in that group. We've (again, including me) lost the guts to defend democracy.

Redstone
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 09:26 PM
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16. I hope its not too late to fight back, redstone.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 09:44 PM
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21. So do I. If only we can find the strength. Does "Olney" mean you're
that section of Philadelphia?

Redstone
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 07:05 AM
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34. Not Phillie-
Maryland. Apparently. Olney got around!
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 09:12 PM
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10. "But does anyone give a fuck?"
Sadly, no. Collateral damage. Howard Zinn calls the term "collateral damage" the language of terrorism.
Sigh and :cry:
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 09:27 PM
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17. Nobody cares. Not for our own from 15 years ago, or from now, or
for the Iraqis, whose one sin was to be born in Iraq.

Nobody fucking cares.

Redstoe
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 09:14 PM
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11. he LOVES the troops. by having them spread radiation poisioning
and forcing them to stew in it along with the 'terrorists' they were supposed to be ""getting"" and 30 million innocent iraqis.

then, when they come home, they will not be taken care of and the government that swears they love them so much will deny that they have anything to do with it or that their just isnt proof that it is the case.
they will probably blame it on saddam or clinton or al qaida while the soldiers suffer and die.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 09:11 AM
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36. So true...
Orwell was right: War is waged by the ruling class on its own subjects.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 09:16 PM
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12. There needs to be an open discussion on this here.
We need to talk about how many of our Democrats knew these dangers before our boys went. These dangers were coming out before Iraq One, I believe.

This to me is one of the saddest things, being in denial about this depleted uranium when we sent our soldiers back to Iraq.

It needs to be an open and honest discussion, but it won't happen.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 09:16 PM
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13. A related thread from a few days ago:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1489246
thread title (6-22-06):over 1000 metric tons of the deadly U238-isotope
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 09:36 PM
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18. Wow. That was kinda depressing.
:cry:
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liam_laddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 06:35 AM
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30. Excellent thread linked above, thanks.
Edited on Thu Jun-29-06 06:42 AM by liam_laddie
Bushes 41 & 43, criminally responsible for the greatest mass-murder & genocide in human history.
And they made huge bucks while carrying it out. And toss in Ronnie Reagan, too. And The Energy Department (formerly the AEC) is complicit, as is the Pentagon (isn't an inverted pentagram a sign of evil in some belief systems? How appropriate!)
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 09:18 PM
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14. It's not just the half-life of the initial U238 molecule, the whole decay
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 09:37 PM
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19. This is the 18th post in this thread and only 8 votes?
This is important to get out people.

-Hoot

Oh, recommended.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 09:41 PM
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20. i hear that about 16% of babies have extreme birth defects... LINK>
Edited on Wed Jun-28-06 09:42 PM by sam sarrha
only go there if you have a good mantra or practice Tonglin or need more fuel to hate Bu$h.. i mean really HATE that lying rat shit bastard..

this is GRAPHIC SH*T.. horror of horrors upon the unborn for corporate profit
'
google; 'Depleted Uranium extreme birth defects'

it was finally admitted that DU was the cause of Gulf War Syndrome

i thought it was back in the 90's when they closed the Stockton Army Depot that brought the duffel bags and equipment back from Iraq.. the baggage handlers were getting sick and i am sure many died

there have been 1000 tons of DU disposed of in Iraq between the 2 conflicts.

DU was a campaign contribution issue.. a way of the Nuclear industry being allowed to DUMP its Radioactive Waste Cheaply in the form of ammo in a defenseless 3rd world country.. no other country allows this to be done
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 09:46 PM
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22. Depleted uranium will be killing and maiming Iraqis long after the US
troops have left Iraq.
The sad irony is that it will also be killing and maiming those same American soldiers and their offspring back in the US for decades after they have returned home.

Another big Thank You to Geroge W. Bush and his cronies.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 09:50 PM
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23.  its radioactivity isnt the problem its a Deadly 'TOXIC' heavy metal LINK...
that causes extreme birth defects and cancers upon cancers

it minimal radioactivity is the excuse to use it.. ignoring by omission the real problem, its toxicity.

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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 09:56 PM
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24. Damn smokers! (nt) :)
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 10:08 PM
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26. That's what the Reich wing radio hosts will blame it on.
Iraqis can't put the Marlboros down.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 10:07 PM
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25. this is a related ..LINK> the amount of Uranium released by coal plants
Edited on Wed Jun-28-06 10:09 PM by sam sarrha
http://www.ornl.gov/info/ornlreview/rev26-34/text/colmain.html

in the article it estimates that in the 100 years following 1937-2040 that the following will be released by the

united states coal fired electrical plants............. and HARRP is owned by the people who run the Four Corners plants

Uranium 145,230 tons
uranium 235 1,031 tons

thorium 357,491 tons


World wide..............

uranium 828,632 tons
uranium 235 5,883 tons

thorium 2,039,709 tons

one must also consider this was done before Bu$h gutted ALL the environmental regulations.. and before china started growing like it has

this study does not count the Mercury arsenic or other toxic heavy metals

the stats here are for what blows out the smoke stack in micro particle ash.. which blows all around the earth ..at least what isn't rained down before it blows away, i heard that some days 35% of the smog in La CA is from china

the major cause of death in china is environmental pollution
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 10:28 PM
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27. Thanks for the link...
Not exactly a pretty picture.
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Wrinkle_In_Time Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 10:34 PM
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28. Now we know there are weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
Edited on Wed Jun-28-06 10:36 PM by Wrinkle_In_Time
They come in the form of "depleted" Uranium munitions.

"Depleted".

Like the half-life of any Uranium isotope is short enough for it to be exposed to another human being.

http://www.ccnr.org/decay_U238.html

EDIT: Nothing Without Hope already posted the link in #14. Good work.
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liam_laddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 06:49 AM
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32. And Rummy, via DoD, sold them
poison gasses, did he not? Massive lying and hypocrisy are the defining characteristics
of the neocons, every last one. BTW, I think Fukuyama's late "mea culpa" is a sad
attempt to squirm out from under the millstone...
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 07:02 AM
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33. Yup....
And I agree on Fukuyama.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 06:18 AM
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29. K & R, people! If you read this article, don't forget to K&R.
And it won't be birth defects only in Iraq - what about the children born to male and female soldiers exposed to DU?
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 07:23 AM
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35. Exactly...
Kind of like the Agent Orange generation in Vietnam.
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liam_laddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 06:37 AM
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31. K & R'd !
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