What do the Fundies want besides huge restrictions on SEX

[Bandit]

It is appearing more and more that they have a huge hang up on SEX. Everything they bitch about deals in some manner with SEX. Why do you think that is? Why is SEX such a driving force for supposed Christians. What did Christ ever say about SEX anyway? It is only a way of controlling women IMO and that appears to be at the heart of the matter. The great majority of Christ's teachings deal with the poor and diseased and how to LOVE one another. I don't recall any specific teachings about what type of SEX is acceptable.

[hobbit709]

1. Total control over your life

That's what it's all really about. The control freaks want to tell you how to think, act, dress, believe, worship, etc. I got news for them-I'll think what I want, I'll read what I want and I'll tell them off when I want. And I will not go quietly- I believe in what Andrew Jackson said. "If you're going to go down, take an eye or an ear of your enemy with you so that he will not soon forget you.

[Brazenly Liberal]

8. Best and truest answer!

I have to deal with some of the fundiest of the fundies every day and it's all about rigid control of virtually all aspects of your life.

They tend to be VERY supportive of the war and this is where it drips with irony. They buy into that nonsense about "The terrorists hate our freedom" without question and without seeing for a moment that THEY themselves are the ones who hate freedom.

[Warpy]

2. Huge restrictions on WOMEN

What we wear, where we can go, what we can say, how we can make a living, every part of our lives.

They want every woman to be a subject of some man, kept at home, silent and decorative, subject to his every whim, beaten and broken.

That's what they want.

[11 Bravo]

4. DING, DING, DING, DING,DING! We have a winner!

It's all about control. They could give a flying fuck about Rush and his chemically enhanced boner heading to the Dominican republic for a little fun and games with child sex slaves. It is about control of women, not sex.

[liberal N proud]

3. One should not have any joy in their life

except that which comes from singing for the Lord on Sunday morn'
I am sure they don't enjoy sex when the do have it and they probably only look at sex as a procreation act.


Another one of those misconceived notions that has been drilled into the minds of the fundamentalist who is too lazy to discover the truth for themselves.

[Felix Mala]

5. End divorce, abortion, religious instruction for ALL kids

All science must support biblical principles, and don't forget their Final Solution for gays... Of course, they won't talk about this until they've destroyed any organized opposition, with the help of the political center, then it's off to the theocracy era of American history. (Or a return if you count the witch-burning, Quaker-hanging Puritans.)

[Canuckistanian]

6. Huge restrictions on free thinking

Ergo the war on evolution, public education, a free press and SpongeBob.

[rustydog]

7. They DON'T. they want huge restrictions on OUR sex, not theirs

[nashville_brook]

9. read Wilhelm Reich, "Mass Psychology of Fascism"

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0374508844/qid=1151513410/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-8526301-2071946?s=books&v=glance&n=283155http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0374508844/qid=1151513410/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-8526301-2071946?s=books&v=glance&n=283155

[OneBlueSky]

10. sexual hysteria, meanness, and hypocrisy . . .

my favorite quote on this topic . . .

"The cornerstones of conservative ethos are sexual hysteria, meanness, and hypocrisy. It all fits together -- if they weren't so fucked up about sex, they wouldn't want to be so mean, and they wouldn't have to be so hypocritical." Rod Downey

[nashville_brook]

11. SEX and FASCISM in an UNCONSCIOUS AMERICA

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=post&forum=364&topic_id=1524699&mesg_id=1524699

here's just a bit of this lengthy thing i wrote last year on the subject...



"...These folks have given birth to a theocracy movement, plain and simple. This is the paradise. This is the utopia. Dominionism, Constitutionalism, Reconstructivism -- they all prey on the mythical authoritarian family unit. Creating a cycle of obsession and repression is a means of control. Whoa, big leap here, you say. Stay with me.

As many psychologists of the last century pointed out, a child's first experience of sex is instinctual and parents must walk a fine line between allowing normal, constructive instincts and discouraging instinctual behavior that will prove harmful to a child's social development. A child's lifelong "moral code" develops from parental conditioning -- specifically training the child away from INSTINCT toward SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE behavior.

Nose-picking is a good example. Nose-picking is instinctual for a kid with a booger. Little Johnny doesn't know that nose-picking is socially unacceptable. He just digs until he strikes gold. Mmm -- salty. It's instinct. And sickening. As the parent suppresses some instincts and reinforces others, the developing child experiences a conflict between instinct and morality which becomes their moral code for the rest of their life. Got an urge? Better check to see if it's moral. If Poppa would beat you for it, chances are it's not moral. Still got the urge? Better go to confession. Repeat the process until the urge is buried deep in your unconscious.

What happens in your basic authoritarian (patriarchal) family when a child begins experimenting sexually? Punishment? What "lesson" is given the child along with the punishment? What is the lesson they take away for the rest of their life? What becomes their "moral code"?

We can answer this EXACTLY, by following the James Dobson method of discipline where, instinctual, unsanctioned behavior (sexual or not) is punished with violence (spanking), and prayer -- used explicitly to "break the child's will" and "show them who is in control" in order that they will learn "to yield to the loving authority... to submit to other forms of authority which will confront him later in his life -- his teachers, school principal, police, neighbors and employers."

There you have the a priori conditioning that keeps the Red Stater in line, in church and fighting for The Victory."

[Golden Raisin]

12. Fundies = America's Taliban

[noonwitch]

13. They want Jesus to come back and clean house

They believe they will be the sole beneficiaries of such an event.

Some of them also wish to see their enemies rotting in hell. Not all of them, but some of the more rabid voices among them.

[Red Right and BLUE]

14. People like this are always the ones

who are into the freakiest stuff. :spank:

[ChickMagic]

15. Because sex is an obsession with them

Down here in the bible belt is where you find the gigantic,
garish strip palaces (and they do look like palaces). It is
not uncommon for mega fundies to be caught with huge caches
of pornography. They are repressed and because of that, they
are completely obsessed with sex. Being obsessed with other
peoples' sex is titillating to them - it's a way they can
talk about sex and be sanctimonious at the same time.

[MiniMe]

16. Plain and simple - Everything

Power, control, and all of the money. At least thats what the fundie leaders want. As soon as their followers are bled dry, they will be out on their asses.