CSPAN 3 - Live Hearing on Pre-War Intelligence THREAD #3

[Norquist Nemesis]

Thread one here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1508795&mesg_id=1508795
Thread two here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1509494&mesg_id=1509494
CSPAN link here: http://www.cspan.org/watch/index.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS3&ShowVidDays=30&ShowVidDesc=&ArchiveDays=30 (realplayer recommended)

If someone can takeover, that would be great! I may have to cut out of here at any minute. :hi:

[sabra]

1. rec - thanks for doing this.

[LSK]

2. who is talking?

Sorry, im late to the party and I can only stream CSPAN3 audio.

[Norquist Nemesis]

4. Michael Smith, reporter of DSM

[LSK]

7. whoa! I hope this is replayed tonite on CSPAN

[The Witch]

5. this is the DSM journalist, Michael Smith

[Viva_La_Revolution]

6. Michael Smith

British reporter who uncovered the DSM

[The Witch]

3. don't know if I can take over

but I'm sure here to give you a big hearty :kick:

[dogday]

8. Thanks NN, someone will pick up

the thread when it is needed.. Thanks for all your efforts.... :hi:

[berner59]

13. How many times does this all have to be said...

until it makes the MSM??? I'm really at a loss for words...we have solid PROOF that this was all a lie and Bush/Blair should be charged with war crimes and NOTHING is done except a backroom hearing...how can all these Congressman/Senators live with themselves?? At least Jones seems so regretful...why can't he start a whole movement going?? It's all so sick...

[Norquist Nemesis]

21. Thanks!!!! n/t

[The Witch]

9. Smith is dropping bombshells

"Regime change is illegal under international law, but we have to CREATE THE CONDITIONS under which we could legally support an invasion..."

[cal04]

10. Create conditons to go to War

george tenet talk
shift in attitude, military inevitable
remove saddam, intelligence Being FIXED

Straw evidence THIN
Bush Mind MADE UP

[Cameron27]

11. Self defense, humanitarian concern and UN sanction ..

only legal reason for regime change

[Greeby]

12. Going into the pre-Congress vote bombing

:popcorn:

[The Witch]

14. You could hear a pin drop in there.

Everyone is just listening, I wish I could see their faces...

[lala_rawraw]

15. Ha, he just read from my article... woo hoo

sorry, i want to be there in spirit of 2.5 years of work on this:D

[The Witch]

16. and THAT is why you are a celebrity to me :)

:yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock:

[lala_rawraw]

19. no no, am I there? no:) am I mentioned, no?

but i have one fan, so thanks:)

[The Witch]

23. damn straight :)

"I'm your biggest fan!"

[Viva_La_Revolution]

26. two

at least. :)

[me b zola]

32. You have many more than one fan!

lala, :yourock:

[babylonsister]

33. Way more than one, lala!

[dogday]

24. Alright

that is fantastic :thumbsup:

[JuniperLea]

36. This must feel like Christmas to you

Congrats:)

I'm late to the party this morning... too much to do... contract stuff and I needed to focus; was too easily distracted by the stream.

Thanks to NN and all for the thread, updates, etc.

I'm sure my coworkers are wondering what all the giggling is about:)

[dogday]

48. I came in at the half

Good to see you:hi: Three words The Vice President.... Priceless

[bleever]

68. Hey,

That's what I thought.

:yourock:

[Cameron27]

17. Lost cspan ?

[Norquist Nemesis]

18. Try the Realplayer link

It's been solid so far, for me. :hi:

[LSK]

25. the audio stream has worked for me

[fedupinBushcountry]

34. I lost it too

have tried everything. Damn, I so wanted to hear it all.

[pberq]

39. I lost it too, but went to the "standalone player" link and it worked

[fedupinBushcountry]

52. Thanks for the info

I just got it back. This hearing is amazing. I hope they re-air on C-Span 1 or 2.

[leftchick]

20. Are there any representatives from any of the media there?

this is bombshell stuff! I hope and pray someone writes something about this.

[lala_rawraw]

22. ah Diane, there are 7 documents, what he talks about is in one of them

spelling fix, sorry

[Norquist Nemesis]

27. Hope you can stay on throughout the hearing! You're

absolutely invaluable!! And thank you for all the hard work you've done!

[lala_rawraw]

30. thank you:)

trying... I am sort of posting in drive by style, so forgive me... but will try

[cal04]

28. Barton up Iraq survey group. no WMD

there was NO evidence of WMD
findings surpressed

[Greeby]

29. Joesph Cirricione up nt

[Gregorian]

31. Not an intelligence failure.

If so, it would have shown up in 1992.

[cry baby]

35. I am surprised that they actually got microphones and lights

for this hearing!

[berner59]

38. They got old time phone connections though....

What era are these connections from?? Might as well use a can & string!! Or Morse Code...

[LSparkle]

41. Feinstein just referred to Dorgan as "Mr. Chairman" ...

Maybe they really ARE more grown-up in the Senate. (In the House, he'd only be "Mr. Dorgan.")

[Cameron27]

37. Can't get real player or windows media player to work

Tried IE and firefox ... can't connect anymore ??? Damnation

[otohara]

53. Try Windows Media "stand alone"

that's what did it for me. I don't know what's up with Real Player & WM today?

[The Witch]

40. just got back to my desk, did difi just try to get curveball's name?

That is sneaky, difi!

[Cameron27]

42. Just got audio from real player working..

hurray

[cal04]

43. CIA official from the Iraq survey group

politically not possible they weren't biological trailers
can't give CIA officials name who said it
Senior Cia official in Iraq survey group at the time

did I hear that right?

[Greeby]

44. Jones: I feel I have let my district and state down

:yourock:

[babylonsister]

47. Amazing; a repug w/a conscience! nt

[KaryninMiami]

56. I know- what a concept=- an GOP who has integrity!

I was shocked when I realized this- after he used the term neocon and cabal. This guy has courage- hope he stays off of small planes for a while.

[ncrainbowgrrl]

54. What a transformation for Walter Jones- from freedom fries to now...

Wow.

[cal04]

45. Jones is amazed how he didn't ask the right questions

let the state and the people of america down
persue the truth
democracy won't survive if the people don't know the truth

[pberq]

46. Rep. Jones

We need the truth! A democracy can not continue without the truth.

[dogday]

50. Said earlier he was ashamed he was only

one of a couple Republicans at this hearing....

[cal04]

49. talking about zinni

last year was amazed
did we have to go to Iraq, NO he said
we knew what he had and wanted (saddam)
his abilities were limited to nill
canisters left over were degraded
general did you tell anyone, he told this administration
you have him contained he is NOT a threat to America
the press DID not do it's job
where in the world was this information so protected that it did NOT get out

[The Witch]

51. It occurs to me that Mike Malloy is going to be AWESOME tonight.

I hope he is listening to this. This is unbelievable stuff.

[cal04]

55. the witch, he's on vacation

until july
Laura flanders is filling in for him

[The Witch]

58. Aw, CRAP.

It's gonna be another hot summer in Washington, I hope to hear his take on it when he returns?

[Cameron27]

57. Is this the republican senator talking about neocons ?

This man is upset. Just amazed that with all professional information, how cabal was able to manipulate (and prez didn't DO HIS JOB)..how did this information not get out before we went to war. (not exact quotes)

Talking about neo-cons put in senior positions in administration...this is GREAT!

All friends of Cheney...decisions were already MADE. Set up their own nerve system, at Dept. of Defense..direct pipeline to VP office. Power of VP..set tone..that underlay policy for war

[The Witch]

59. Jones: "Do you feel the law has been broken?"

:wow: :nuke: :wow: :nuke:

My mind can't get blown this many times before it goes numb...

[pberq]

63. Possibility of cover-up in testimony to Congress

Possible criminal charges IF the Congress holds hearings. (That's a big if - given the Repub. leadership)

[pberq]

60. Cirincione lays it on the line - Neocons took over the gov't

[dogday]

62. Were they telling the truth to Congress

were they committing purgery? You would be getting into criminal areas and it becomes explosive...

[Gregorian]

61. Jones- did they break the law?

Cirincione- the law breaking is in the coverup.


They're getting WARMER...

[cal04]

64. Jones, do you feel the law has been broken

congress responsible for the troops going to Iraq
could it be seen and proven that it was manipulated (intelligence

if they (congress)pursue this and find the truth, you are getting into coverup and criminal areas, that will be explosive
Jones, wants to hold hearings and thanks feinstein

[Nothing Without Hope]

65. Hearing just now adjourned.

[cal04]

66. Dorgan hopes we can find a way to resolve this issue

then continue this and Find the truth Dorgan

[Cameron27]

67. Thanks Norquist Nemesis...I would have missed this !!!

[eppur_se_muova]

69. Big thanks to Norquist Nemesis, lala, and everyone who posted! nt

[Nictuku]

71. C-SPAN VIDEO AVAIL (STREAMING)

I was trying to find out when it was going to be re-broadcasted, (to no avail), but did find a place I could watch it on my computer streaming:

http://tinyurl.com/lwbmr

It is the fifth entry down, requires Real Player.

I want to record this on VCR to show my family who do not have computer access, so if anyone sees what time it will be on regular CSPAN or CSPAN2, please let me know!

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

70. Thank You to All who posted on this today!

Wish I could have seen this live on the boob tube. :cry: