Sometimes I Wish I Believed In God.

[DistressedAmerican]

It sure would be a comfort to believe that even if this asshole criminal syndicate pull off the crime of the century here on earth, that God would be there to punish them for their evil.

It would be great to think that somewhere accountability would be unavoidable.

However, I do not believe that. I believe that only here on earth can these bastards be held accountable. Of course that just is not happening. As a result we are rapidly developing hell on earth!

Any Christian that actually believes Bush is somehow doing God's work, understands less about their religion than I do. That is a pretty sad state of affairs.

[DoYouEverWonder]

1. You mean you don't believe in yourself?

I am god. You are god.

We are the only ones who can change this mess. That's the gift of free will. No ones coming to save us. We must save ourselves. We just need to start making better choices.

Peace be with you.

[DistressedAmerican]

4. I'll Be More Impressed With My God Nature When I Get To Start

smiting the wicked. When I get the omnipotence to see every slimey thing these bastards do in secret. When I can start tossing around some lightening bolts to remind future politicians not to abuse my name in such a manner.

As a mere mortal, I fight as hard as I can. Have for years now. But, with God powers, I could have cleared this mess up long ago!

Since when is no one comes to save us from evil, "a gift"? Free will is just Christians way of explaining away God's apparent failure to smite the wicked like he supposedly used to. That old testament God would not put up wityh this shit. The new guy is far too mellow for my tastes.

[DoYouEverWonder]

9. Are you kidding

the Old Testament god loves this shit. He thrives on this shit. Smiting will only get you more smiting. However, bringing to justice the criminals in the Bush cabal is up to us. I'm all for bringing traitors and criminals to justice, the sooner the better but I'm still opposed to the death penalty. Well, except in maybe with two or three exceptions? :evilgrin:

[Warpy]

12. Well, there's always Karma

but I share your frustration. While Karmic retribution occasionally happens where we can see it, as in Reagan's Alzheimer's disease after he'd cut the funding for research into it, it's generally a slow and murky process and very unsatisfying to observers hungering for justice.

It's hard being an Irish Buddhist. The Irish in me doesn't want to kill my enemies, it wants them to live long and miserable lives. The Buddhist knows killing them doesn't do any good because they'll just come back with an even worse Karmic load.

So yes, it would be lovely, in the absence of one's own omnipotent divinity, to summon up the gods of old for a good smiting. We'd want to be able to send them back when the job was done, though, because most of them were pretty unpleasant to have around.

[DistressedAmerican]

15. Made This One Day When I Was Wishing For Karma To Actually Exist.

More wishful thinking than anything else though...

[Tesha]

2. I always wish that people would get just what they wanted.

I always wish that people would get just what they wanted.

So the people that want a vengeful, wrathful god who's
always waiting to cast souls into Hell for the slightest
infraction of the rules would get evaluated by exactly
that kind of god after they died, a god who had written
down everytime they cut someone off in traffic, or gave
a long-hair the finger, or told an anti-war protester to
"get a job!", or ...

And the people who believe in a Christ of love and forgiveness
would get that sort of a diety judging them after they died,
a god who'd cut them lots of slack just because humans are
subject to human failings and, hey!, he was human once and
hanging around with that foxy Mary Magdelene so he'll
understand.

And Unitarians and Ethical Culture folks and the like could
get a place to talk about god(s) and the meaning of life,
the universe, and everything. ;-)

And atheists could just get some long-deserved rest.

Tesha

[sweetheart]

3. In the darkest dark

Does the cold soul hold Christ in their heart for sacred warmth.

The US is transited to a very low civil culture, one that is really insane,
raving mad with incoherent desire, the hormone disorder of an unrepentent
3 years old child. Then as a christian, in holding Jesus christ close
in your heart and praying for God's grace, in realizing and surrendering
to human failure, is Grace..

[novalib]

5. You Want God To Hold Them Accountable??!!

You want God to hold the members (and enablers) of the corrupt Bush cabal thug regime accountable??!!

WE -- ALL OF US -- MUST hold them accountable!!!

We must pursue them to the end of the earth and never -- NEVER -- let up!!

We must not let them have one day -- one second -- of peace.

WE must punish them for their crimes!

[DistressedAmerican]

6. I Think You May Want To Reread My Post.

I do not think that there is a God. I fully understand that it is us that must hold these assholes accountable.

How's that going exactly?

Would be nice to have some sort of back-up. To bad I take no comfort in that notion as I simply do not think it is the case.


My post is certainly not some plea to let them get away with it and let God sort them out. Not even remotely.

[novalib]

8. Things are NOT Going Well.

" I believe that only here on earth can these bastards be held accountable. Of course that just is not happening. As a result we are rapidly developing hell on earth!"

OK, so things are not going well here. Hell is rapidly developing on earth.

But that only means that those of us who see what's going on and who are truly outraged MUST re-double our own efforts and our own committment to holding the bastards accountable.

I'm sorry, but wishing that there were a God to hold them accountable just seems like a gigantic cop-out to me.

[DistressedAmerican]

10. I Work My Ass Off Pretty Much Non-Stop.

Feel free to click the link below for just the tip of the iceberg on my work against this cabal. I have been cranking out satirical photoshops and writing for years. I have recently taught myself Flash to build on those efforts. I have been to just about every major protest against this war from Crawford back to NYC.

Click the link and take a look then try to tell me I am busy "copping-out". The whole suggestion is just fucking silly given my extensive history on the front lines of this battle.

You do not seem to be getting the point AT ALL. Nor do you appear familiar with my efforts at all.

I have redoubled my efforts so many times in the past several years that they are now thick enough to stop bullets.

Sheesh!

[novalib]

13. Your First Post Sounded Like Despair

"It sure would be a comfort to believe that even if this asshole criminal syndicate pull off the crime of the century here on earth, that God would be there to punish them for their evil.

It would be great to think that somewhere accountability would be unavoidable.

However, I do not believe that. I believe that only here on earth can these bastards be held accountable. Of course that just is not happening. As a result we are rapidly developing hell on earth!"

That sounds (to me) like the cry of someone in deep despair, and looking for someone else (God) to be a source of comfort and to make everything right.

Sorry if I misread your first post, though.

I know how difficult it can be to work very hard for something, and not see it come into fruition.

But I never give up. And I try NEVER to fall into despair.

[DistressedAmerican]

14. Not How I Meant It At All.

It is frustrating. But, I try not to let it get to me either. When it does, they win and fuck them. I won't give them the satisfaction of ever wearing me down. I will be on them until they are punished and the country set right.

I was just pondering how few Christians actually seen prepared to call this guy the criminal he is. I have always assumed that they agree with him. Maybe they just think that he will get it in the end anyway. Who the hell knows?

[deaniac21]

16. Careful now, we don't want you to sprain a wrist!

[DistressedAmerican]

17. And Your Point Is?

Got a problem with my pointing out my ongoing work when being accused of "copping out"?

WTF?

"Wrist"? What are you talking about? Is you implication that I'm just some sort of keyboard jockey? That's rich from someone throwing around pointless, snarky one-liners on an internet message board. I have traveled all over this country at my own expense working ON THE GROUND to stop these folks. I have canvassed door to door in New Hampshire 10 below and roasted in the Crawford August heat to show my opposition. Wrist my ass.

Or are you just one of my fans from other sites come to be a dick?

Maybe you'll elaborate on your attitude.

[deaniac21]

27. I was afraid you might hurt the wrist while patting yourself on

the back.

[DistressedAmerican]

29. Be Sure Not To Strain Yours Typing Pointless Snarks.

Those are definitely going a long way toward making things better...

*YAWN*

[deaniac21]

31. I'll try to be careful and would like to apologize if I've offended.

My dad used to caution me against bragging so it's hard not to pass his wisdom along. I know that your flash animations will do a lot toward chaning the world while all I do is entertain myself. Perhaps I will gradually become a better person.:toast:

[Lerkfish]

7. It doesn't make it any easier: I believe in God, and I am not comforted

that "this asshole criminal syndicate pull off the crime of the century here on earth"
I have comfort in my beliefs, but not in the course this administration is forcing us down.
If anything, I think bush (or those puppeteering him) are anti-christ wannabes. They certainly seem intent on bringing about the end of the world.

[catmandu57]

11. I've had the same thought many times DA

It bothers me to think that these bastards will get away with only the silence of the grave as their punishment, the very same fate that awaits all of us.

Sometimes when I see the injustice that is being done, people dying, suffering, going hungry, homeless, reviled for their skin color, sexual preference, their beliefs, it makes me want to gag.

Here we have so many professing to be godly, yet ignoring the only command they were given, "love your neighbor as you would yourself".
That's not a hard concept to grasp, if all the religious people did this we'd be living in a decent world.
We're not though, and i just can't carry the off the religious thing myself, and as certain as they are of going to heaven when they die, I'm just as certain of laying down and knowing nothing more forever and ever amen.

[ItsTheMediaStupid]

18. "Thou art God."

Robert A. Heinlein - Stranger in a Strange Land

[Javaman]

19. Man created god. Once that is understood the rest becomes clear.

Oh and one other thing, Man also determines what god can and can't do at any given moment. Funny how that works, huh?

[akushuki]

20. If there is a God then he just doesn't give a shit. Tell me, do you care..

about the squabbles of ants?

[DistressedAmerican]

21. I Would If I Was Their All Powerful, All Knowing Creator.

It would be my responsibility, my moral obligation. Just as it is my responsibility to care for my offspring.

Anything else is absentee parenting and should have us all placed with a foster-God that will not neglect the needs of the kiddies.

Wouldn't you?

[akushuki]

22. You assume that if there is a God, then he created us on purpose.

Maybe the universe just popped out of him while he was taking a shit?

[DistressedAmerican]

24. My Understanding Is that "God" Has A Pretty Well Developed

plot line. You know the, modern, monotheistic one that people spend so much time killing each other over these days.

You'd think that guy would be a bit more concerned with the affairs of the people He created. Especially when the sins involved are being committed in HIS name.



Maybe he just lacks the "personal responsibility" the Republicans talk so much about.

[akushuki]

25. Haha, thats a funny picture.

I can see your point and I'm guessing you have an idea about mine. Basically, this is why I'm an agnostic now. I found the catholic church sucks and churches is general suck. If there is a God then what he is has been corrupted by his creations.

I hope there is a God, but I'm just not sure.

[DistressedAmerican]

28. Definitely Get Your Point.

Just back and forthing ya.

I have absolutely no interest in organized religion. It by definition os a fallable earthly institution. I would not mind the existance of God in anyw ay per se. Just do not buy it.
:hi:

[seabeyond]

23. yes believing in universal power is a comfort of sort, but doesnt

ignore the work or the wrong to be recognized by we the people. there might be even a greater responsibility for those that do believe, especially when so much of this is done in the name of the lord.

it is a sad state of affairs for those that are respected and followed in the religious world are guiding their "sheep" away from christs lite" instead of to christs lite. this is my biggest challenge in the mess of religion. the absolute disservice man is doing ot fellow man, again.... in the name of the lord

[msongs]

26. I have developed a NEW god concept to share with you:

this god loves everyone and is gonna make life a paradise on earth while you are alive,
not make you suffer total misery so some church gang can make you live in fear and promote hate.

my god is gonna make life wonderful for everyone all the time because its the right thing to do.

sorry to say, there are no religions currently promoting this kind of god :-(

Msongs

listen to our song demos!
www.msongs.com/msongsdemos.htm

[Flubadubya]

30. Karma works pretty well...

Ya don't even have to believe in God to believe that there is universal justice (i.e. cause and effect). Even if they don't get their due in this lifetime, they have an eternity to get their come uppins (oh, and on this notion, it helps to believe in reincarnation). But you still don't have to believe in "God".

Don't worry, they will suffer for their misdeeds, really! Take comfort in that. O8):evilgrin: