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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 12:58 PM
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Fox/Santorum WMD story follows Third Reich's standard "Big Lie" Technique.
This entails telling a lie so immense that nobody could believe that you could lie about such a thing, and then repeating it over and over and over until the average person simply assumes it as a fact not needing any substantiation.

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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 12:58 PM
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1. Another Swift Boat Rovian Set Up
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 01:02 PM
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2. Exactly.
This time we need to call them on it, and on their Nazi roots as well.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 01:10 PM
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3. You got that right!
We need to come out swinging cause they are working like mad to make it stick.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 02:20 PM
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8. Write to your favorite Air America host...
...and ask them to stick it to them on this issue.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 01:16 PM
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4. Did not one person watch
'The Dark Side' on Frontline the other night? Or are they afraid too many did?

Wasn't it saurove who said no one would care about WMD so it was an easy lie 2 get away with?
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 01:21 PM
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5. I'm afraid that I am not a TV watcher AT ALL.
The only videos I consume are railfan videos, Yep, that's right, I'm a train nut.
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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 01:33 PM
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6. In an attempt to set up enlightened discourse
our Congress has a rule that no member may call another a liar.

I have no idea what the punishment is for violating this rule, but it's time to find a few congressfolk and senators with the stones to take the risk in the name of freedom.

Someone needs to call Santorum a liar, to his face, on the floor of the Senate. That's the only way we start getting rid of this rubbish. The ONLY way.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 01:47 PM
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7. If you have ever read a good Congressional Debate...
...they have some very artful ways of calling another a liar without using those words. Sadly, that is a skill that only a few seem to possess.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 02:23 PM
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9. The story was so patently false that the Pentagon debunked it!
The freakin Pentagon! So does the fact that the BFEE/Foxnews tried to lie an manipulate millions for political gain make M$M news or end up in Time? Forgetaboutit!
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 02:25 PM
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10. The Pentagon debunking won't matter.
If they never report that, and if the people who listen to them listen to nothing else, the Big Lie works.
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 04:01 PM
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11. Speaking of the Nazi BIG LIE TECHNIQUE
I was told yesterday by a very well informed German-American that the phrase "Support our Troops" was first used by Nazi Germany for the invasion of Poland!

Talk about using the Nazi playbook!

-85% Jimmy
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 04:09 PM
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12. Chemical weapons and other ordinance are found in the US all the time.
Edited on Thu Jun-22-06 04:10 PM by Jara sang
Grenades were found in a school yard:

http://starbulletin.com/2002/03/30/news/briefs.html

3 live grenades found in Big Isle school garden

WAIMEA, Hawaii >> Army experts have found and removed three live, World War II-era grenades at a garden at Waimea Middle School on the Big Island, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers announced.
Army contractors used the current spring break to survey the garden. A live grenade was found at the garden on Feb. 5, and the garden was closed.

Besides the three live grenades, contractors located an inert piece of another grenade and seven bullets, all below ground, the corps said. Explosive experts from Pohakuloa Training Area disposed of the live ammunition.


They even tested chemical weapons on civilians here back in the '60s. Tell me there aren't a couple of unexploded sarin nerve agent shells sitting around in the forest for some hiker to trip over:

http://starbulletin.com/2002/10/10/news/story6.html

WASHINGTON >> The Pentagon acknowledged yesterday that some soldiers engaged in chemical and biological weapons testing in the 1960s may not have been fully informed about the secret experiments conducted at sea and in five states from Hawaii to Florida. Some tests used the military's deadliest nerve agent, VX.

Thousands of civilians in Hawaii and Alaska also probably were unaware they were sprayed with relatively mild bacteria meant to simulate germ weapons such as anthrax, the Defense Department's top health official said.

Dr. William Winkenwerder, assistant defense secretary for health affairs, said there is no evidence anyone died as a result of the classified tests, which were part of biological and chemical warfare programs the United States abandoned in 1970.

http://deploymentlink.osd.mil/pdfs/pine_ridge.pdf

Sarin filled BLU-19/B23 and BZ filled BLU-20/B23 bomblets were detonated in test areas in the upper Waiakea Forest Reserve and in the Olaa Forest Preserve, southwestof Hilo, on the island of Hawaii in May and June 1966.

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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 04:10 PM
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13. Target: Hannity and Limbaugh dittoheads. Floods of e-mail will
Edited on Thu Jun-22-06 04:11 PM by oasis
follow with all kinds of WMD disinformation.
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