Now that NSAT&T has fucked your privacy once again, what can you do?

[unhappycamper]

First, read up on how the phone system works.

Point: there is no privacy using electronic communications of any kind.

This problem is similar to the one in Iraq: the only solution is a political solution. Let me repeat: the only solution to the invasion of your privacy is to make sure your congresscritter upholds your fourth Amendment rights. It probably won't hurt to remind her/him that November is coming round soon.

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[The2ndWheel]

1. Sounds like we should stop using

electronic communication.

I'm sure the critters already know your thoughts. With tracing patterns in our electronic communications, they can effectively read your mind anyway.

[unhappycamper]

2. Respectfully disagree.

We should make our elected representative represent us, not bu$hCo, not their corporate masters. Us. You and me.

All technologies have the potential to be misused and without effective leadership, they will be. The breadth of domestic spying by this government would give Stalin a woody.

[The2ndWheel]

4. Should and can are different things

In theory, you're right. I couldn't agree more. The way I see it, we continue having more people to represent, but the same number of representatives. However, if you add representatives, there are only so many hours in a day, and half of them never have a say in anything today anyway, let alone with more of them.

The way my brain works is that I feel we should reduce the size of things, which goes against the last 5000 or so years of history, so I think I'm going insane at times.

"All technologies have the potential to be misused and without effective leadership they will be."

Sort of like a bomb. It's made to kill, and to misuse it, would be not to not kill with it. So we need effective leadership in order to move the merchandise off the shelf.

It all depends on what the technology was created for. I'm not saying we created electronic commincations for easier central control by secret mega agencies, but it does make it easier, especially with effective leadership.

But then we get back to that leadership representing you and me, which is getting more difficult as time goes by.

[kestrel91316]

3. We can always go back to passing notes. It worked very well for me

in HIGH SCHOOL.

Whispered rendezvous in dark alleys might stage a comeback, too.

[The2ndWheel]

5. Well if the NSA and DARPA continue to exist

there might be no other option.

[derby378]

6. That strategy hasn't worked in the past

I say throw all the bums out that you can and replace them with a fresh crop of anti-fascist, anti-corporate-state Democrats.

[rumpel]

7. Here is 1 effort

http://www.lieffcabraser.com/telephone-wiretapping.htm

Class Action Lawsuit Filed

On May 30, 2006, two subscribers of phone service with AT&T filed suit against the company for secretly providing private customer telephone call records to the federal government, without a court-authorized warrant or subpoena.

The nationwide class action lawsuit alleges AT&T violated federal law in providing the NSA with its customers' call-detail records and that plaintiff and the class are entitled to damages.

[unhappycamper]

8. Any comments from the evening crowd? n/t