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panzerfaust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 05:35 PM
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Rove INCOMING: On the deck under RADAR. Important, truly …

“The Internet for the Left of the Democratic Party has served as a way to mobilize hate and anger -- hate and anger, first and foremost …”


Please read that again. It is important. The rebounding Rove says that “The Internet for the Left of the Democratic Party has served as a way to mobilize hate and anger…”


“Hate speech” is currently and specifically illegal in many countries, including Bush’s favorite lapdog, the UK …


Können Sie das Schreiben auf der Wand sehen?
(Can you see the writing on the wall?)


I cannot believe this has not been discussed on the DU. So, if this has been previously posted, I apologize. I could not find it using ‘Search’. Even if it has been posted, it should be brought to light again.




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Dunvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 05:39 PM
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1. As if the "Internet for the Right" doesn't harbor some of the worst hate..
...speech on the Internet?

Keeping an eye on Karl...he's back to doing the dirtiest work possible for the Reich Wing.
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panzerfaust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 05:49 PM
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7. Love, Understanding and TRUTH
Is all that you can find on RW-Nut sites.

Just ask KARL!

Somehow, the new laws will not apply to them.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 05:39 PM
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2. Note to KKKarl "If you do not want us to be mad, quit pissing us off".
Tel commander bunny pants to quit shitting on the constitution and wiping his ass on our bill of rights.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 08:32 PM
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14. Vincardog
speaks for me.

:thumbsup:
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motocicleta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 10:16 PM
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19. What he said.
:yourock:
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 10:52 PM
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21. I love to tell the freepers on my veteran's board that Bush wipes his ass
with the Constitution. They go ape shit every time I say it!!

They always tell me, "You need to apologize for that" or "That was mean and uncalled for."

Oh yeah?

"Go fuck yourselves!"
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 05:40 PM
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3. Good Point! A warning shot? n/t
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 05:27 PM
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31. Rove always telegraphs his next move, so I am going with Yeah. nt
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 05:42 PM
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4. The internet is their next goal, it's becoming very apparent with shows...
on networks which are readying the masses. For i nstance, the Dateline shows on internet predators, same with Oprah. They keep telling us that the internet is dangerous and the next step is that they need to protect us from it. If necessary they'll use the laws you site to shut down dissent.
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panzerfaust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 05:47 PM
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6. Sie sind vollständig korrekt
I think you get the meaning of both Karl's Komments and my subject.
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NI4NI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 06:03 PM
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8. It's no coincidence
Edited on Sat Jun-17-06 06:16 PM by NI4NI
that Rove is attacking after C-Span televised the YearlyKos convention last weekend, and that Markos himself was on MTP last Sunday. (Not that it's relevant with Rove's attack, but I think Russert was somewhat surprised to hear that many Daily Kos Dems look to Al Gore, not Senator Clinton, as their choice for '08)
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 06:03 PM
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9. net neutrality, and Google search results
are part of this.

Eliminating net neutrality will allow big news organizations to wipe out any independent competitors.

And requiring record keeping of Internet use (and requiring government access to this) will allow them to pinpoint the trouble-makers.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 05:44 PM
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5. The poster child for hate and anger accusing others of using it as weapon?
Edited on Sat Jun-17-06 05:45 PM by BrklynLiberal
That is so typical of his strategy..right? He always accuses the opposition of what he is doing!
Remember the planting of the microphone in one of his own client's office?
It was a total fraud, but it worked.

He always goes right for the throat to destroy the strengths of his enemies. Be careful of this tactic. It has worked in the past, and will work again.

Rove's evilness knows no bounds.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 06:09 PM
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10. So what?!!!
Karl Rove says boo and everybody jumps. Let his sycophants in the MSM get their knees dirty blowing that jerk. Karl Rove is one-trick pony - he makes nothing but horseshit. I know it. Everyone here knows it and the blogosphere knows it.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 06:25 PM
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11. But the fundie right doesn't know it...
Child Porn, Hate Speech, Predators, while all problems, he is attempting to lay into the left's lap making it our problem and justification for tightening our final bastion of free speech.

I see this as needing us to point out and loudly that Karl is lying, especially with regards to hate speech.

-Hoot
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 06:34 PM
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12. Screw the fundy right too!
I'm tired of their hate. I'm tired of trying to win them over. They will never see reason. They will never be tolerant. They are not the majority of the voting public and Turdblossom can have them!
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panzerfaust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 08:43 PM
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15. Wake up Rip -- or R.I.P.

Rip Van Winkle might you be? Perhaps you have been asleep somewhere in a cave these last 6 years?

Our country in this, the year of Our Lord 2006, the sixth year of the reign of W the Wondrous is a very different country than it was in 1999 CE.

Much of this is directly the result of Rove's actions.

A common and foolish mistake is to 'misunderestimate' the enemy.

Rove - and the party he stands for - is an enemy: An enemy at least of Democracy and of individual freedom.

One of the most recent, and profound, changes occurred when the Supreme Court (with justices recently appointed by who, who was put in office by whom?) decided that even the previous “20 second” wait (decided in 2003 when some dude was in the shower when the police knocked – before they kicked the door in 20 seconds later) was too long for the Bushevik Polizei and the BP’s can kick in any door – yours included – without warning. This sets aside centuries of common law, and revokes the protections specifically enacted into law in the United States in the early 1900’s.

Whilst you were sleeping, and sneering at the ‘one-trick pony’ he, and those who control him, have made great advances in turning this country into a police state.

‘Police State’ is not simply a pejorative term, but describes a country where the rulers have all the power, and the people none. To quote Wikipedia: “In a police state the police are not subject to the rule of law and there is no meaningful distinction between the law and the exercise of political power by the executive.”

Does this sound like what any country you know is becoming?
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 10:50 PM
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20. If we don't get a majority in the House or the
Senate....ie subpoena power, I believe this administration will spend the next 2 years ELIMINATING dissent. I worry about this...and have thought it might be time to leave the country before it's too late.

We must get subpoena power.
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mbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 07:02 PM
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13. I was taught to hate criminal acts just as I hate the devil so
I guess he is right! When I see people abusing our Constitution and breaking the law day in and day out I do hate that.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 08:54 PM
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16. They'll but a firewall on all liberal sites.
Make the Internet like the MSM...ugh!!!! :puke: Not that it will stop me from going where I want to on the Internet. Maybe it will become illegal and they will use their new powers to drag us out into the streets.
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 10:08 PM
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17. Maybe we should
meet them on the streets?
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 10:12 PM
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18. I hope we're a big thorn in Rove's ass.
Fuck him.
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 10:54 PM
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22. Rove is a nobody and a loser who's party is going to lose this year. nt
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 10:54 PM
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23. It's the only thing left isn't it?
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 11:57 PM
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24. It has been discussed:
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 12:16 AM
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25. That was a great post. Just read it for the first time.
Worth re-posting.
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 12:56 AM
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26. Thanks. Maybe I will tomorrow
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 02:09 AM
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27. "this very narrow, very out-of-the-mainstream, very far Left-wing . . .
Edited on Sun Jun-18-06 02:10 AM by OneBlueSky
ideology that they tend to represent." . . .

Karl, Karl, Karl . . . shame on you! . . .

very narrow? . . . um . . . I think not . . . the Liberal/Progressive websites I'm familiar with are anything BUT narrow . . . just keeping track of the broad, daily array of illegal/immoral/unethical BushCo policies and actions is damn near a full-time job . . . you have forced the so-called Left to "cover the waterfront" (thanks, Louis Armstrong) and pay attention to everything from election fraud to environmental degradation to the Iraq (and possibly Iran) war to depleted uranium weapons to what REALLY happened on 9/11 -- to, basically, anything you leeches get your grubby hands into . . . by no means whatsoever is that a "narrow" range of issues . . . and while we may differ on proposed solutions to the glacial messes you're creating, we ALL agree on what the messes are -- and who's responsible for them . . .

very out-of-the-mainstream? . . . this is an easy one -- just ask the American people . . . take any "Liberal" position -- health care for everyone, ending the war, collaboration rather than confrontation in foreign policy, re-regulating corporations, fair taxation, re-opening the 9/11 investigation, depleted uranium weapons, rendition and torture, how veterans are treated, rebuilding New Orleans and the Gulf States, whatever . . . and ASK the question "Do you support this approach to this particular issue?" . . . if you're too lazy to do that, just look at the existing polls . . . if there's anyone "out of the mainstream" it's you jerks -- and you know it! . . .

very far Left-wing? . . . cute trick, Karl . . . describe an opponent, base how you define the opponent on YOUR definition -- and then broadcast it far and wide as if it were somehow true . . . "it's worked in the past," you think, "so why wouldn't it work again?" . . . sorry to be the one to clue you in, Karl, but the American people are a WHOLE LOT smarter than you give us credit for . . . even your "base" is deserting you -- even though it never was a base to begin with . . . your base is the Halliburtons and Glaxos and Shell Oils of the world . . . the "lesser" classes you pretended to represent were always just props . . . and they're starting to realize it . . . and they are PISSED! . . .

so indulge your illusions, Karl baby . . . "Your Time Is Gonna Come" thanks to Led Zeppelin. . .
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 02:33 AM
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28. It's only a matter of time before the internet is suppressed BIG time
Edited on Sun Jun-18-06 02:33 AM by BigBearJohn
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 02:36 AM
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29. I am SO glad you opened that door, Mr. Rove
extreme political speech = hate speech

let's discuss

www.freerepublic.com
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307 MMS Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 03:29 PM
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30. Rove
I hate to say it, but I'm surprised KKKarl hasn't had a "surprise" yet.
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