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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 07:35 AM
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How stupid does the Bush administration think we are?
Do they actually think that because Zarqawi is dead the attacks in Iraq will cease and the insurgents will just go away? Bush makes it sound like getting Zarqawi will cure all our troubles in the Middle-East.

If anything it emboldens them, and maybe the successor to Zarqawi will be worse than he was. The idea that Zarqawi's death is going to bring peace and love to Iraq is sheer folly, just like the Bush administration's failed policies, both domestic and international. If they think any one person being eliminated will stop the violence they need their heads examined. (and NOT by Bill Frist)
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 07:36 AM
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1. Especially when the new lead is hand picked by bin Laden.
They think we are pretty stupid. Maybe we are. We put up with this adm.
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Sailor for Warner Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 07:37 AM
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2. I seem to recall that
He said exactly the opposite, that the death would NOT stop the attacks.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 07:43 AM
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4. If that's true, then why was Zarqawi's killing such a big deal?
To hear it from them, this was going to put the lid on attacks in Iraq.
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 09:07 AM
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20. Typical RW tactic.
Busholini takes the safe route and "wisely" warns that the attacks won't stop because of this. Meanwhile the rest of the Repug noise machine is out there trumpeting this as a huge victory and a sure sign that Al Qaeda in Iraq is finished.

They play this game all the time.
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 07:39 AM
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3. I've heard Bush say the opposite.
They are playing that same old game. Bush hisself plays it safe (this is only one man - the violence will continue) - in the meantime every Bushbot on god's green earth blankets the airwaves with comments about how the insurgency is dying (again).
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PaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 07:44 AM
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5. They think we're pretty friggin' stupid..........
and as a matter of fact, they are right. I'm speaking of the electorate in general here, not DU in particular.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 08:04 AM
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8. I am struck by how stupid most Americans are.
I think we have exactly the government we deserve.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 08:33 AM
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13. Yep. Unfortunately, it's true.
nt.
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MarinCoUSA Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 07:47 AM
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6. Bush's comments were pure Orwell
Edited on Sat Jun-17-06 07:48 AM by MarinCoUSA
When I heard his remarks I was surprised how Orwellian they seemed and wondered if anyone would comment on it.
He's dead. Big blow to the central war on terror. More fighting. More struggle. That sort of thing.

Real war is peace, peace is war stuff.


edit for word change
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ktowntennesseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 08:02 AM
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7. They're smart enough to know Zarqawi's death is insignificant.
(or as Tony Snowjob would put it, he's "just a number.") But the GOP knows their own constituency is dumb enough or not paying attention enough to believe it helps, so they spin it just a bit to get through to them and make them feel better. Plus, the media pick up on a more confident, positive White House and drool on themselves talking about what a great week the President has had.

More Kool-aid anyone? :banghead:
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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 08:05 AM
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9. Bush counts on the stupidity of Americans
That's how Bush has been able to wreck our country - American's stupidity. Want to hear stupid? Listen to the republicans that call in to C-SPAN every morning. The rude, idiotic, hate filled callers are always the republicans.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 08:09 AM
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10. It represents an unacknowledged deal with Iran.
Edited on Sat Jun-17-06 08:11 AM by leveymg
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/leveymg/73

Here's the deal: BushCo gets to claim it "stabilized" Iraq sufficiently to pull some troops out before the election, and Iran gets its new western province. Iraq gets split up into three chunks. That outcome was inevitable from the day that American troops toppled the Sunni regime in Baghdad.

The question is: was that deal worth $400 USD billion, 100,000 dead Iraqis, 25,000 US casualties, and 2,500 US KIAs?
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AlohaTexan06 Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 08:16 AM
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11. Its just a big action movie to some of these idiots
In a weird sort of way, I believe that the right wing shills understand that his death wont stop the violence but love celebrating anyway. Its not that they see this as a sign of eventual victory but rather as good news that can be easily conceptualized by their supporters. They just get off on killing "an evil doer" regardless of whether or not its a sign of progress. We saw the same blood lust when we caught Saddam and killed his sons, as well as in their passion for following along with the decks of playing cards.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm certainly not disappointed that any of the above people were captured or killed. I have no sympathy for any of them. However, I can't get real excited about any of these deaths if they aren't accompanied by clear signs of peace and order in Iraq. It really should take more then a hollywood moment of a bad guy dying to satisfy the American people that we are winning this war.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 08:24 AM
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12. We're stupid, because we are owned
Edited on Sat Jun-17-06 08:29 AM by sweetheart
We've sold off our sovereignty to a thousand authorities, doctors,
teachers, legislators, judges, policemen, and they own us like slaves.
And were the entire thing not cynically corrupt, it wouldna matter.

Inside the USA itself, Mr Bush worked to polarize the
country into two camps: those who were for him and those
who were against. He also built up his power by destabilizing
those institutions that he could not control and creating new
ones which he could. These tactics are now being exported
to the regional stage. . . <snip>


The original article is called "venezuela's foreign policy"
in "the economist" for june 10th.

I changed the word "venezuela" to "the usa" and "mr chavez" for
"mr. bush".. and it reads perfect. The hipocrisy of the patriarchal
polarizers and their radical war against civility. Oddly,
"we" are the conservatives to demand the preservation of the
civil institutions from this onslaught of radical corporatism.

Zarqawi was a name of a television character on some entertainment
TV that is braodcast inside the US to decieve with slight-of-hand,
the director and the producer sit there and chuckle.
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AlohaTexan06 Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 08:39 AM
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15. This is what I love about DU
Just when I think I'm the most jaded pessimist lefty around, someone like sweetheart makes me look like Mr. Sunny McOptimism. I'm not trying to diss, though. Despite its bleakness it was very beatiful and poetic writing. I'm very impressed. I dont think my perception of the situation is any where near as gloomy as yours but I have to admit more of your post rings true then I'm comfortable with.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 08:33 AM
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14. all I know if someone came to America and occupied us
killed our people destroyed our cities and caused mayhem as this WHIG has done to Iraq I wouldn't need anyone to tell me to fight back. I feel for the people all over the world who have been so wronged by our foreign policy it just makes me want to get off my ass and do something. until this cabal came to be I never payed much attention to world affairs and that I regret immensely
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Sailor for Warner Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 08:45 AM
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16. I would fight back too
But I wouldnt follow some Candian who came in and said that the best way for us to resist the invaders is for the Christians to rise up and kill not only fellow American collaborators but any american who was Jewish because the Jews are the cause of the invasion in the first place ande infidels. Then Id behead some peace workers from the invading countries. That would be great.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 08:54 AM
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17. I sure would appreciate any help our Canadian or Mexican neighbors...
...would be willing to send here to help kick out a bunch of Chinese soldiers occupying the USA.

Weapons, finances, willing and experienced fighters, or anything our other North American brothers and sisters were willing to offer us would be gladly accepted by me in that situation.

It only makes sense.

I bet the Chinese would be calling us terrorists when we didn't obey the puppet government they set up for us too.

Don
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 08:59 AM
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18. It's a very good possibility.
What's the old saw, "Better the devil you know than the devil you don't." How do we know Zarqawi wasn't "going soft" and getting tired? And how do we know he doesn't have 5 younger, more zealous seconds waiting in the wings?

Pfft. Nothing will change. If anything, some replacement wannabe is sharpening a machete as we speak. And after him - five more. And so on and so on.
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 09:05 AM
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19. Very. They rely on it, profit from it and are sustained by it.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 09:18 AM
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21. HE KNOWS HIS BASE IS STUPID
and he doesn't care about us.
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rep the dems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 12:28 PM
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22. They figure they're smarter than any of us,
which would mean they think we're really really stupid.
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