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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 09:35 PM
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Christian Radio Commentator: Bible Supports Concept of Secure Borders
Christian Radio Commentator: Bible Supports Concept of Secure Borders

By Chad Groening and Fred Jackson
June 16, 2006

(AgapePress) - A Christian business consultant and writer in the Phoenix area has recently published some commentaries that deal with what the Bible says about illegal immigration and a nation's response to that. He says he has found in his study and research that it isn't just about compassion.

Steve Marr's online commentaries are called "Business Proverbs." His syndicated radio program by the same name is heard on 1,000 radio outlets worldwide. According to Marr, the Bible supports the idea that nations have the right and responsibility to secure their borders.

Marr says many Christians, when it comes to the issue of illegal immigration, argue that compassion should rule the day because those immigrants have come simply seeking a better life. But the former president and CEO of a large import-export firm says even illegal aliens who have been in the U.S. for years and have built otherwise productive lives are still illegal aliens.

http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/6/afa/162006g.asp
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 09:37 PM
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1. Exodus 22:21
Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 09:44 PM
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2. Right-Winger Marr Misses Inconvenient Bible Verses Ezekiel 16
Not surprisingly, this right-wing X-ian missed Ezekiel ch 16, verses 49-50

"Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom; she and her daughters had pride, surfeit of food, and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy. They were haughty, and did abominable things before me; therefore I removed them, when I saw it."

If I were a Biblical literalist, I'd be shaking in my boots about what the Almighty might have in store for the USA, and not because of "hommasexshuls" and "fornicators," either.
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PWRinNY Donating Member (456 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 09:50 PM
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3. OH. MY. GOD.
Give me a friggin break!

We have something we run this country by. It's called THE CONSTITUTION. Did I say bible? NO. I said CONSTITUTION. Get your religion out of my government! JEEEEZZZZ!!!!
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 10:24 PM
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4. Sorry, No Apologies.
Sorry, but I don't intend to apologize for using biblical verses to clout right-wingers on their heads. Right-wingers have been talking about how their "Gawd" hates "libruls" and how their political agenda is rooted in "traditional values" found in their "Bah-bul" for all too long. Frankly, I've been seething about such attacks and have been looking for ways to kick them back where it hurts.

I enjoyed finding inconvenient scripture to quote right back at those pietistic, hypocritical, two-faced lying polyester pharisees and am having fun posting these passages for all to see.
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 10:27 PM
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5. Christian of convenience is the proper term for this dork.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 10:28 PM
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6. So what? Everyone who believes in the Bible knows it...
can be used to support just about anything you want it to if read selectively.

Amazing as it may seem, most Christians aren't stupid enough to have their beliefs changed by some asshole on the radio.

However, as with all humans, Christian or otherwise, many are perfectly happy to have their beliefs echoed and legitmized on said radio.



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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 10:32 PM
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8. But Christ taught to take care of the poor and children
He didn't mention borders.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 10:55 PM
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12. And he said to render unto Caesar, but...
serious students of the bible look at all of this in a continuum and try to put it together in a coherent whole to make sense. Some make more sense than others, but all of us find out that the biggest job is separating our prejudices from the evidence.

Me, I think the radio gasbag is full of it and it goes against the view I have, as it goes against most liberal Christianity.

But, there are those others...

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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 10:30 PM
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7. This creep is what is turning people off to Chrstianity
A Mexican family seeking food is no lesser valuable than a white person.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 10:36 PM
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9. John Lennon was SO dead-on
"Christianity will go. It will vanish and shrink. I needn't argue with that; I'm right and I will be proved right. We're more popular than Jesus now; I don't know which will go first - rock and roll or Christianity."



"I believe in God, but not as one thing, not as an old man in the sky. I believe that what people call God is something in all of us. I believe that what Jesus and Mohammed and Buddha and all the rest said was right. It's just that the translations have gone wrong.

Jesus was all right, but his disciples were thick and ordinary. It's them twisting it that ruins it for me."


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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 10:49 PM
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11. Capitalism has replaced Christ in the eyes of the GOP
Christ wasn't into capitalism.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 10:38 PM
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10. 'where your treasure
is there your heart will also be"-
This fella's god is tangible- It consists of green ink on cream colored paper- and the love of this vice is the root of all evil, acording to his 'bible'.

"do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth"
"to whom much is given, much will be required"
"When a foreigner resides with you in your land, you shall not oppress that alien. The foreigner who resides with you shall be to you as the citizen among you; you shall love the foreigner as you love yourself, for you were once aliens in Egypt" (Leviticus 19:33-34).

"Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for by doing so some have entertained angels without knowing it" (Hebrews 13:2).

"For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, "( Matt. 25:35)

"whatever we did for the 'least of these' we did to God" (Matthew 25:35- 40)

Not very comfortable or republicanly correct- but the words are from his 'bible'-
And are pretty clear.
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