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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 05:25 PM
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Al Gore: "We almost certainly are at or near what they call peak oil"
Gore said this toward the end of his interview with Larry King on CNN:

KING: Gas prices -- we've only got a minute left.

GORE: Yes.

KING: Gas prices going to go down?

GORE: Well, I've seen a number of -- over the last several decades I've seen this happen several times, where they spike and then they do come back down.

But each time they go to a higher plateau. We almost certainly are at or near what they call peak oil, defined as having recovered a majority of the oil reserves at a certain price, affordability range. And so with the new pressure on the consumption side from China and India, if they come back down, they won't stay down long.


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/13/lkl.01.html


Did anyone else catch this? Now both Clinton and Gore are on the record speaking about the immediacy of Peak Oil.

Wonder why * didn't take the opportunity during his Addicted to Oil SOTU address to mention this?:sarcasm:

Bless you Al Gore, for having the courage to speak the truth, however scary it may be!
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 05:28 PM
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1. Al Gore
is telling the public the truth about environmental issues. I have a great deal of respect for him. It would be good for the country if he gives serious consideration to running for re-election in 2008.
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uberblonde Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 05:34 PM
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2. Join the Draft Gore campaign.
Edited on Wed Jun-14-06 05:35 PM by uberblonde
www.draftgore2008.org

Let's all work together to convince him!
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Hestia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 05:41 PM
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5. I dunno...
Edited on Wed Jun-14-06 05:42 PM by Hestia
I know we all went into a depression, malaise, etc. when Gore lost. I know I personally didn't recover until I saw "An Inconvenient Truth". The Universe said the US can't keep him to themselves, he's needed on a Global Level. I think we ought to give a title, like "Ambassador for Earth". He is doing exactly what needs to be done at this time. Blessings to him for his work in getting out his timely message to all of us.
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 06:33 PM
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9. Thanks for the link, uberblonde!
Well worth bookmarking.
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 05:38 PM
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4. I plan on seeing Inconvenient Truth with my Dad this weekend.
Don't know if I've mentioned my Dad before, but he's a rather conservative fellow, in the Pat Buchanan "paleo-conservative" mold. It took me years to convince him that global warming and Peak Oil are not crazy left-wing conspiracy theories, but the reality we face. It really made me happy that he suggested seeing Inconvenient Truth together.
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:45 PM
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18. way to go, getting to your dad. I got to mine, too, & my 82 y.o. mom is
now buying all organic food and spring water.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 05:47 PM
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6. I almost always agree with you, H20Man...except when identifying snakes.
;)

Maybe I'm just jumping on the "Yea, Gore!" bandwagon, but I want Gore to run, too. I want the chance to undo my mistake in 2000 by giving this man my vote. I think I could get excited about 2008 if Gore ran.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 05:36 PM
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3. Carter spoke of conservation in 1980, before the election.
People didn't care about preservation back then either.
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Hestia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 05:56 PM
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7. My family did
My mom got us recycling when it wasn't cool, and has supported Arbor Day, Sierra Group, etc. for decades. Some people DID take it heart and it has stayed firmly planted...Blessings
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 06:11 PM
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8. If only our country hadn't taken a hard right turn with Raygun.
Here's a couple good articles about where we were compared to where we are now:

ublished on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 by CommonDreams.org
Carter Tried To Stop Bush's Energy Disasters - 28 Years Ago
by Thom Hartmann

In his recent news conference, George Bush Jr. suggested that our nation's "problem" with high gasoline prices was caused by the lack of a national energy policy, and tried to blame it all on Bill Clinton. First, Junior said, "This is a problem that's been a long time in coming. We haven't had an energy policy in this country."

This was followed by, "That's exactly what I've been saying to the American people -- 10 years ago if we'd had an energy strategy, we would be able to diversify away from foreign dependence. And -- but we haven't done that. And now we find ourselves in the fix we're in." As is so often the case, Bush was lying.

Consider President Jimmy Carter's April 18, 1977 speech. Since it was given nearly three decades ago, when many of the reporters in Bush's White House were children, it's understandable that they don't remember it. But it's inexcusable that Bush and the mainstream media (which, after all, has the ability to do research) would completely ignore it. It was the speech that established the strategic petroleum reserve, birthed the modern solar power industry, led to the insulation of millions of American homes, and established America's first national energy policy. "With the exception of preventing war," said Jimmy Carter, a man of peace, "this is the greatest challenge our country will face during our lifetimes."

He added: "It is a problem we will not solve in the next few years, and it is likely to get progressively worse through the rest of this century. "We must not be selfish or timid if we hope to have a decent world for our children and grandchildren.

more...

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0503-22.htm


Published on 1 Oct 2005 by Cleveland Plain Dealer. Archived on 12 Oct 2005.
Was Jimmy Carter right?

by Stephen Koff

Washington- President Bush is telling Americans to go easy on energy, use carpools and "curtail nonessential travel" - an unusual moment for an administration that used to say it could meet growing energy demand by expanding supply, not consuming less.

But this is not a Jimmy Carter, turn- down-the-thermostat, late-1970s moment.

Carter wore a cardigan when asking Americans to bear a little discomfort in a time of severe oil price increases. Last Monday, Bush rode in a motorcade - two limousines, three utility vans, six SUVs and a medical truck - to the climate-controlled Department of Energy, where he appeared in a suit and tie behind a podium.

Symbols aside, the former oilman who occupies the White House today shares a problem that plagued Carter, a former peanut farmer and naval nuclear engineer: How to solve an energy crunch in a nation utterly dependent on fossil fuel?

more...

http://www.energybulletin.net/9657.html
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:22 PM
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16. Carter tried to get us into SOLAR & conserving energy
Raygun put a stop to that crap!:sarcasm: :eyes:
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 07:37 PM
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10. Kick
:kick:
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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 08:00 PM
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11. Dubya rebuts this
://www.transbuddha.com/mediaHolder.php?id=1147">Will Ferrell - Bush on Global Warming on Transbuddha</a>

I am not good at doing this but this is Will Ferrell as Bush discussing Global Warming. I hope you guys can get this.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 08:59 PM
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12. K&R for Gore!
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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 09:53 PM
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13. Did anyone see Rep. Roscoe Bartlett (R - MD) on C-Span today?
He was brilliant on peak oil!
I think he out-Dem'ed the Dems. Out-Greened the Greens.
Roscoe know peak oil!

Too bad he's not one of us!

http://www.bartlett.house.gov/Biography/
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 12:32 PM
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21. Bartlett spreads the word on Peak Oil like no other politician.
I think his investigation of it and knowledge obtained about it has changed him for the better. I know he spoke out on the floor AGAINST drilling ANWR because risk vs. reward just isn't worth it in the context of Peak Oil and Global Climate Change.

Here's one of his speeches:

The next chart shows us the elements of the oil in this country, where we got it from. We see a whole bunch of it came from Texas, and then the rest of the United States, and then nos gas liquids, the red above, and we see what is called Alaska there. That is all the oil that we got from Prudhoe Bay, the north slope, a lot of oil. But it really did not make a very big difference. You see, we are still sliding down that slope and there is just a little blip produced by Prudhoe Bay, and then we slide down the slope.

Mr. Speaker, we remember a couple of years ago, the Gulf of Mexico oil, and that oil w going to solve our oil problem. That oil is represented by that yellow there. Not a whole lot, and it did not stop our slide down Hubbert's peak. The amount of oil that may be present in ANWR is predicted to be, who knows; it may be very little, it may be a whole lot, but the prediction is about half of what was in Prudhoe Bay. So you may agree or disagree that we should drill in ANWR, but it really does not matter because there is not enough oil in ANWR to really make a difference.

The next curve we have shows a very simple curve, the problem that we face. If, in fact, we have reached peak oil, and I spoke here on the Floor a bit more than 5 weeks ago for an hour on this subject and we have had a lot of people come through our offices and a lot of phone calls and e-mails from all around the world, and I will tell my colleagues that there is nobody who does not believe that we are either at peak oil or will shortly be at peak oil. As this chart shows, you do not have to be at peak oil to have a problem. If peak oil occurs here, and we are here, you see that there is a bit of yellow between our use curve and by the way, this use curve is only a 2 percent growth. Now, we think that if our economy is not growing 2 percent, that the sky may fall, the stock market reacts very badly, and this is only a 2 percent growth curve. Look what happens with this 2 percent curve, with that yellow there, that is what we would like to use at only 2 percent growth, and the blue line there shows us the oil that will be available. Now, we cannot use oil that is not there. So that is going to be all the oil that we have available to use if, in fact, this is correct.

more...

http://www.globalpublicmedia.com/articles/391
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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 02:08 AM
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22. Yeah that's it. He was at it again yesterday! Graphs and all.
Edited on Fri Jun-16-06 02:08 AM by Bill Bored
Too much truth for this Congress! Thanks for the link.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:03 PM
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14. Go on www.climatecrisis.net, you would be amazed what you can do.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:17 PM
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15. Al Gore is really winning back my support
He really has shaken off the DLC shackles.

Feingold...Gore...and Dean are my favorite Dems.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:42 PM
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17. But! But! But! I was told I was ENTITLED to cheap gas for eternity!
What the hell are you talking about- no one ever told me that a black goo you pump out of the ground might actually run out!!!

:crazy:
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:46 PM
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19. too f**$ing bad BushCo stole his presidency from us
tTime to put the Bushies in jail and liquidate their assets
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 06:39 AM
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20. Re-elect Gore.
He gets it.
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AlGore-08.com Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 02:20 AM
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23. K & R for President Gore
:patriot: :kick: :patriot:
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