Who was Abu Musab al Zarqawi? Just ask CNN. They will tell you

[NNN0LHI]

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_894.shtml

<snip>What is the role of this new mastermind in the Pentagon's disinformation campaign, in which CNN seems to be playing a central role?

In previous propaganda ploys, the CIA hired PR firms to organize core disinformation campaigns, including the Rendon Group. The latter worked closely with its British partner Hill and Knowlton, which was responsible for the 1990 Kuwaiti incubator media scam, where Kuwaiti babies were allegedly removed from incubators in a totally fabricated news story, which was then used to get Congressional approval for the 1991 Gulf War.

What is the pattern? Almost immediately in the wake of a terrorist event or warning, CNN announces (in substance): we think this mysterious individual Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi is behind it, invariably without supporting evidence and prior to the conduct of an investigation by the relevant police and intelligence authorities.

In some cases, upon the immediate occurrence of the terrorist event, there is an initial report which mentions Al-Zarqawi as the possible mastermind. The report will often say (in substance): yes we think he did it, but it is not yet confirmed and there is some doubt on the identity of those behind the attack. One or two days later, CNN may come up with a definitive statement, quoting official police, military and/or intelligence sources.

Often the CNN report is based on information published on an Islamic website or a mysterious Video or Audio tape. The authenticity of the website and/or the tapes is not the object of discussion or detailed investigation.

[Master Mahon]

1. I love the recent video of him

where the military was making a joke of him because he couldn't
shoot a machine gun and his aid, who also couldn't do much, burning his
hand on the barrel of the gun, had to show him how to work it.

Now that he's been killed he was the greatest mass murderer since Hitler.

HA... what a joke.. their own hypocracy over him and others is blatantly obvious

[underpants]

11. Yeah for a "street thug" and "killer" he didn't seem very familiar with

a weapon. Any weapon. They all pretty much function the same way.

I was thinking about that just yesterday. They were laughing at him (shame works in the Arab world like guilt does here) but the two don't really add up.

Still you gotta give this to the guy-he sure got around considering he only had one leg.

[DrDebug]

2. CNN has high security clearance to those al-Qaeda websites

And we don't. That's the difference. I must have seen thousand of websites however if I type http://al-qaeda.org , I find a website for for sale LOL

[NNN0LHI]

4. If we click on those websites we become illegal combatants

If CNN clicks on them they get higher ratings.

Something doesn't seem right here.

Don

[DrDebug]

6. The weird thing is that the .org gives a squating site

So here we have Al-Qaeda and the HQ is located in Arizona (!!):

Domain ID:D104255612-LROR
Domain Name:AL-QAEDA.ORG
Created On:21-Apr-2004 19:20:03 UTC
Last Updated On:25-May-2006 00:25:08 UTC
Expiration Date:21-Apr-2008 19:20:03 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Go Daddy Software, Inc. (R91-LROR)
Registrant ID:GODA-018511888
Registrant Name:Registration Private
Registrant Organization:Domains by Proxy, Inc.
Registrant Street1:DomainsByProxy.com
Registrant Street2:15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Scottsdale
Registrant State/Province:Arizona
Registrant Postal Code:85260
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:[phone]
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:

Schlund+partner Ag in Germany is hosting the al-Qaeda website, however al-Qaeda can't afford their own server and share it with 780,043 other sites. So there are lots of sites who share the same server as al-Qaeda. Now that's scary!

[magellan]

9. Schlund -- hold on a second

Wasn't there a Schlund-owned organization in AZ that was behind fraudulent registration of voters in '04? Their minions trashed Dem regs all across the country or something like that? What was the outfit called...It had America in the name....

[magellan]

10. I've got it!! Schlund and Partner AG

Check post #18 in this thread from 2004 re the Catholic swiftboating of Kerry: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1108772

Same group. Continuing search.

[DrDebug]

12. Huh, I thought that you were joking. It's spamhaus listed as well

It's an ISP with 10 outstanding spam complaints including 2 ROKSO records (ROKSO records are the top 100 spammers of the world).

I can't give you a direct link since http://spamhaus.org doesn't allow that anymore, so you have to select Germany and then schlund.de

It's probably a rogue ISP which routes all complaints to /dev/null and allows spam and squatters on their network.

[magellan]

14. Yeah, I'll bet it's their hosting firm 1and1 that's rotten

Schlund+Partner is just a registrar. 1and1 is their international hosting firm. Is there a 1and1.com in the dns nameserver on that record?

No link between them and the holder of al-qaeda.org otherwise. My mistake, sorry.

[DrDebug]

15. Well it's probably not the world's best ISP/registrar

1and1.com is hosted by Schlund.de as well

I did call it rogue, however it's nothing compared to mci and other big ISPs. It's probably an ISP who doesn't ask that much questions and doesn't care that somebody directs 700,000+ domain names to one server. I mean most servers are shared, however it usually less than 10,000 websites per server.

[magellan]

16. Oh dear, we're batting a thousand here

This is from 1and1's About page: "...1&1 is proud to be both the world’s biggest web host, and the fastest growing. Our global community is 5.08 million people strong...."

Eyikes! But never mind. I got off track because I remember it was an S-named firm in AZ that was behind America Coming Together (I think), anyway, a group going around registering new voters before election '04 and casually disposing of all the Dem registrations they took. They did it in Las Vegas and many other places. I think the parent firm was a law or PR firm in AZ with a Repug at the helm. Clearly it wasn't Schlund. Sorry again for getting all excited about nothing!

[magellan]

13. Forget it, wild goose chase

Just realized, Schlund+Parnter is a registrar. No wonder their name pops up so often.

[azurnoir]

3. Of course

the authenticity of the websites aren't checked can you say care for a glass of Chabli's anyone?

[The Deacon]

5. Also on CNN

al-Zarqawi has morphed from leader of Al-Qaeda in Iraq (the smallest of 14 groups thought to be active in the insurgency and not part of the larger Al-Qaeda network) to Al-Qaeda's Leader in Iraq (which is demonstrably not true - there are even rumors al-Qaeda members tipped the U.S. where to find him so as to exert more influence over the insurgency.)

[Vinnie From Indy]

7. CNN is simply a psyop delivery vehicle for BushCo

Of that, I have no doubt. They have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt in my mind that they ARE an integral part of the BushCo deception/control campaign.

[pinniped]

8. That was their pattern and it was so friggin obvious to anyone....

paying one bit of attention. Hell, all the stupid media were playing this same shit.

I have a whole collection of BS al-Zarqawi stories where this pattern is evident.

In some ALL cases, upon the immediate occurrence of the terrorist event, there is an initial report which mentions Al-Zarqawi as the possible mastermind. The report will often say (in substance): yes we think he did it, but it is not yet confirmed and there is some doubt on the identity of those behind the attack. One or two days later, CNN may come up with a definitive statement, quoting official police, military and/or intelligence sources.

This is how they came up with al-Zarqawi being the mysterious leader of this al-Qaeda in Iraq bullshit. Uh, we think he is the leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq but there was no immediate confirmation and the claims could not be independently or dependently verified. This is how they came up with this alleged al-Qaeda in Iraq! Every country has their own al-Qaeda branch? WTF? THey even tell us there is an al-Qaeda in Iraq council.

I don't think there is any 'real' proof the mythical al-Zarqawi was responsible for any or all of the shit they wanted sheep to believe he did. There is no fucking way one person has that many #2s, #3s, and as many lives as he allegedly had.

Goebbels would be proud they are utilizing his techniques.