Al-Masri is now #1 Successor to Zarqawi? I thought it was Al-Muhajir?

[Philosoraptor]

CNN now announcing the pentagon is officially naming a successor to Zarqawi, an Egyptian named Al-Masri. No known photos of him, so it'll be EASY to use him as a new Batman Super Villain.

[kittenpants]

1. Al-Ma...whatever...just re-focus your hate, okay!?

They're still in the casting process and creating the perfect evil visage, so they'll get back to us then.

[TomInTib]

2. Al-Muhajir was SO yesterday

"The Immigrant" must not have made it to town.

[helderheid]

27. LMAO - exactly what I was about to post!

[The_Casual_Observer]

3. Doesn't all this sort of point to the futility of all this "war on terror"

shit?

[smokey nj]

4. I guess Al-Muhajir failed the drug test. n/t

[leftchick]

5. al-moe, al-joe what is the diff?

the M$M will blow whoever it is into worse than osama regardless.

[Jeanette in FL]

6. Would that be Osama's son-in-law?

One of Osama's daughters married into that family?

The father Al-Masri died in 2001? (Death

On 16 November 2001, a US air raid destroyed a house said to shelter Muhammad Atif (Abu Hafs al-Masri), near Kabul.

News of his death was widely disputed inside and outside Afghanistan, but three days later, the death confirmation came from Pakistan where the Taliban's Ambassador Abd Al-Salam Dhaif said "Abu Hafs al-Masri's died from injuries he suffered after US warplanes bombed his house near Kabul." )

Just trying to keep the nepotism up to date or is this a different person altogether?

[11cents]

10. al-Masri means "the Egyptian"

It seems to be a common nom de guerre.

[Jeanette in FL]

12. Thank you for the explanation

[Philosoraptor]

16. "The Egyptian", wasn't he on Batman? Oh no, that was King Tut

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

7. I heard on Fox News it was Al-Gore. n/t

[jaysunb]

8. What exactly was his promotion based on ?

tenure, strong work ethic, innovative leadership ????

How stupid does this misadministration think people are ? Oops...don't answer that. :evilgrin:

[Philosoraptor]

9. Attendance: Never missing a day of terror in 22 years.

[kittenpants]

13. He's the Cal Ripkin of terror!

[jaysunb]

37. Oh Boy !

:rofl:.....both of you.

[Vogt]

11. I don't get it

So al-Qaeda says that they want al-Muhajir to lead them, but the Pentagon wants al-Masri? God golly damn. Rummy's got a lot more influence than I ever could've imagined.

[Philosoraptor]

17. By Golly Al-Muhajir is a known unknown, & Al-Masri is the #2 man now

That Zarqawi went zowie by golly.

[Selatius]

26. Well, as Rumsfeld says when confronted with unknowns and lack of evidence

"The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence!"

Just because you don't have proof that something does exist does not mean you have proof that something doesn't exist.

[K-W]

29. The US, not Al Qaeda chooses Al-Qaeda's leaders.

One of the more glaring cracks in thier mythology.

[DrDebug]

14. But, but there is already an Abu Hamza al-Masri

I mean that's too much:
The first leader was bin Laden who had to carry his dialysis equipment around
The second one was al Zarqawi with his wooden legs
And third one has the same name as Captian Hook.

Hamza's Dad from Lower Egypt :rolleyes:

C'mon, you can do better than that...

[Philosoraptor]

18. "The Hook", lost his hand to Donald Rumsfeld.

He's also blind in one eye.

[LibDemAlways]

15. Why are these terrorists all known

by nicknames? as in "Musab's dad from Zarqa" - Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi.

Shouldn't we start calling the chimp "Abu Jenna Al-Crawford - World's #1 Terrorist"?

[Nimrod2005]

20. ROFLMAO ----

:rofl:

I was think Bush can be Abu fake war president al freedom lie!!!

[uppityperson]

21. Olsen=son of Ole, Baker=person who bakes

Names are indicative of their family status (son of, father of) and where they are from. This is how people are referred to many places around the world.

[dipsydoodle]

22. Yes ! Maybe it's

Al <J>olson.

[LibDemAlways]

32. There was a lengthy post the other day by a

knowledgable DUer who pointed out that "Abu" is not used as a given name. It is rather a nickname, bestowed on an adult, that means "Dad" or "Father." So either these terrosrists are all using aliases that begin with so-and-so's dad, or the pentagon isn't being very smart or creative in naming these shadowy guys.

[burythehatchet]

38. he got an offer letter but decided

to backpack in europe for a year

[Igel]

19. There was a third claimant, too.

It's plausible that the "organization" now has three people trying to claim the top spot. American organizations have power struggles when the top guy retires from the scene, why wouldn't Iraqi organizations do the same?

It's also plausible that the organization is putting out disinformation.

I'm trying to figure out what 'Hamza' is; it's not the letter. Apparently 'hamaza' means 'pinch' or 'snip'. My dictionary doesn't include 'hamza' per say, but it's a dictionary of standard Arabic, '80s vintage. (And Arabic-Russian.)

[Vogt]

28. Hamza is three things is Arabic,

It is, as you said, a letter (sort of). It's also the Arabic word for "five." Most importantly though, it is a very popular name for boys. Hamza is a great hero in Islamic tradition. He was an uncle of Muhammad - a great and strong man who drank lots of wine and hunted and fought lions in his spare time. When Muhammad was beginning to preach his message in Mecca, he ran into some tough opposition from the local rulers. One day he was being harrassed by a certain official and Hamza entered the picture. He asked why Muhammad was being called a liar when not even given the chance to speak. The official again called him a liar and Hamza knocked him out. The official has gone down in history as Abu-Jahl (father of ignorance). Hamza stayed with Muhammad and became one of the greatest warriors in his cause. Eventually the ruling elite of Mecca - in quest of vengeance - found an African slave of great reknown and paid him to, when next in battle with the Muslims, to kill Hamza particularly and cut his heart out. The slave did, and that was the great figure's end.

[Igel]

36. Ah, it's the uncle of Muhammed,

it's the right 'h'. The 'j/g' symbol without the dot, clearly not the letter hamza.

It explains why it's so common, both just as a given name, and also as abu Hamza. Thank you.

It's the same 'h' as in 'five', but that's written 'hamsa' according to my textbook. Wouldn't be surprised to find varieties that voiced the 's', though.

[Avalux]

23. But I thought it was Al Baghdadi???

nother name mentioned by experts as a possible successor was that of Sheikh Abu Abdullah al-Rashid al-Baghdadi, an Iraqi friend of Al-Qaeda supremo Osama bin Laden, whom he met in Afghanistan.

Baghdadi heads the Consultative Council of Mujahedeen, an alliance of eight Iraqi armed groups, including Al-Qaeda.

"In order to deserve the title of emir (leader) of a jihadist organisation, he should have proven combat skills and be versed in the Sharia (Islamic law)," Sirri, the director of the London-based Islamic Observatory.

"These criteria were spelled out in the statement, and the person who seems to fit that best is Abu Hamza al-Baghdadi, who heads the Al-Haya al-Sharia (Islamic jurisprudence committee)."

http://www.politicalgateway.com/news/read/18753

:silly:

[apple_ridge]

24. Was't he the #3 man in al-Quaida?

Oh wait, that guy got killed.

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[bigdarryl]

25. Al-Masri

Who the fuck is the US to annonce who the next so called leader is against these killers in Iraq.

[Vogt]

30. A logical question on the surface

but, seeing as how the U.S. is always so keen on creating terrorists, maybe they should have a voice in who their successors should be. Can't have someone not famous running things. Then they would be unable to reduce the entire fucking sick fiasco into the personality of one asshole.

[Sailor for Warner]

31. They are the same person it would seem

Thats what my Intel Officer was explaining to me (dont wory, its Unclass) I do know that Al-Masri means "the Egyptian" or something like that and Al-Muhajir mean "the Immigrant or the Traveler". Seems to make sense, they all use aliases.

[me b zola]

39. I heard that on cnn

(don't worry, cnn has no class)

[Bluebear]

33. Katherine Harris never certified the original vote. nt

[deaniac21]

34. If you’ll be my bodyguard

I can be your long lost pal
I can call you Betty
And Betty when you call me
You can call me Al

[SoCalDem]

35. I thought they reported that al Masri was also killed in the bombing

I guessed that they had to go down the list to "the next guy"..