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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 09:55 AM
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20 freak voting facts according to blackboxvoting.org
1. 80% of all votes in America are counted by only two companies: Diebold and ES&S.

2. There is no federal agency with regulatory authority or oversight of the
US voting machine industry.

3. The vice-president of Diebold and the president of ES&S are brothers.

4. The chairman and CEO of Diebold is a major Bush campaign organizer and donor who wrote in 2003 that he was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."

5. 35% of ES&S is owned by Republican Senator Chuck Hagel, who became Senator based on votes counted by ES&S machines.

6. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel, a long-time friend of the Bush family,was caught lying about his ownership of ES&S by the Senate Ethics Committee.

7. Senator Chuck Hagel was on a short list of
George W. Bush's vice-presidential candidates.

8. ES&S is the largest voting machine manufacturer in the US and counts almost 60% of all US votes.

9. Diebold's new touch screen voting machines have
no paper trailof any
votes. In other words, there is no way to verify
that the data coming out
of the machine is the same as what was legitimately put in by voters.

10. Diebold also makes ATMs, checkout scanners, and
ticket machines, all of
which log each transaction and can generate a paper trail.

11. Diebold is based in Ohio.

12. Diebold employs 5 convicted felons as developers. These are the people
who write the voting machine computer code.

13. Diebold's Senior Vice-President, Jeff Dean, was convicted of 23 counts of felony theft in the first degree.

14. Diebold Senior Vice-President Jeff Dean was convicted of planting back doors in his software and using a "high degree of sophistication" to evade detection over a period of 2 years.

15. None of the international election observers were allowed in the polls
in Ohio.

16. California banned the use of Diebold machines because the security was so bad. Despite Diebold's claims that the audit logs could not behacked, a chimpanzee was able to do it! (See the movie at
http://blackboxvoting.org/baxter/baxterVPR.mov .)

17. 30% of all US votes are carried out on unverifiable touch screen voting machines with no paper trail.

18. Bush's Help America Vote Act of2002 has as its goal to replace all machines with the new electronic touch screen systems with no paper trail

19. All-not some-but all the voting machine errors detected and reported went in favor of Bush or Republican candidates.

20. Major statistical voting oddities (odds on the order of 250 million to 1!)-again always favoring Bush-have been mathematically demonstrated by experts.
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 09:57 AM
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1. Thanks for keeping those items front and center.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:02 AM
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7. Our country deserves to be kept alive with information sharing.
Then action.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 09:59 AM
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2. You can bet that BBV.org DID NOT compile any of this data.
They most likely "appropriated" the information from others and now pass it off as their own in a never ending quest to secure funding. Bev can PISS OFF!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:01 AM
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5. That's what I understand.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:02 AM
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6. the issue is Election Fraud, not bbv.org
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:22 AM
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13. Yeah. Sure.. Probably stole it from RFK, Jr? or M C Miller? RIght?
Why is that I know most of these things from DU and from before the war between the worlds?
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:00 AM
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3. Link to Black Box Voting is bad.
I'd like to see the movie, but couldn't find it when I went to Black Box Voting. Could you update the link? Thanks.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:01 AM
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4. blackboxvoting.org
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:09 AM
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8. I got that - I couldn't find a link to the movie with the chimp. n/m
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:13 AM
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10. Well let me check for you see if further info was contained that I
Edited on Wed Jun-14-06 10:15 AM by lonestarnot
omitted. You tried this?

http://blackboxvoting.org/baxter/baxterVPR.mov

Nope sorry, that's all I have and I have to run, but I will look more later.
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:12 AM
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9. Everyone needs to know this.
K&R :kick:
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:14 AM
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11. Fairly sure it was TIA that made this list if memory serves.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:16 AM
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12. Long live TIA! And I'm not the least bit surprised!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:24 AM
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14. check out how far it reached!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:36 AM
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15. Wierd shit happens whenever I post anything related to these people
or their information. LOL. I have no interest either way. Just want the info out.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 11:47 AM
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17. there's a reason for that :
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 12:25 PM
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18. Well if the info is valid, why kill the messenger?
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 01:17 PM
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19. I'm not. :) Just giving a history lesson :)
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 04:43 PM
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20. Thanks helderheid!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 11:38 AM
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16. Kick
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 08:14 PM
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21. kick
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