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OhNoTheyDidNot Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 11:49 PM
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alcibiades_mystery made me look silly about Rove
Here's the thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=1031467#1045652

And my sig line is my punishment. Good call Alcibiades_mystery. You gave up hope that justice would prevail MONTHS before I did. Congrats!

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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 11:55 PM
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1. :)
I'm impressed. Truthout could learn something from you.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 12:03 AM
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2. Here's to giving up hope in a timely fashion!
:toast:
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 07:30 AM
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12. lol
I'll cheers to that.

:toast:
to no hope at all.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 09:00 AM
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15. Yeah, that's what I did
I "gave up hope." Uh huh. It's nice spin, in any case.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 12:05 AM
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3. How could anybody make me look silly by being lucky?
Quoth AM:
"This is gambling, ace. Roll of the dice. Curious though, that nobody has yet taken the bet, isn't it?"

You basically took a bet that "the Seahawks will win the Superbowl" except that even that event could have been predicted based on information about strengths, weaknesses, and past performance, etc.

So he basically called heads and claimed that anyone who called tails would look silly if it came up heads.

He made you look silly only because you took a silly bet.

People sure do spend alot of time trying to guess or predict what is going to happen. I prefer to analyze what actually has happened or acting to prevent things that they admit to (the Iraq war drums which started beating in 2002, the promised tax cuts for the wealthy, public plans to dismantle social security, etc.) I do not believe in crystal balls, neither yours nor alibiades-mystery's. Put another way, 'there's many a slip 'twixt cup and lip'.
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Llewlladdwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 12:07 AM
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4. Kudos!
At the very least you have a sense of honor.
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OhNoTheyDidNot Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 12:11 AM
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5. Thanks guys
Edited on Wed Jun-14-06 12:12 AM by OhNoTheyDidNot
and of hf .... It really didn't seem like a 'silly bet' at the time. EVERYONE (at the time) - even Rhandi Rhodes was saying it's a done deal that he would be indicted
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 12:28 AM
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6. k&r, Despair for the WIN!
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 06:39 AM
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7. It has nothing to do with hope
Although if that approach makes you feel better, more power to ya.

Cheers, in any case.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 06:42 AM
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8. The gloating here is both premature and suspicious
Know one knows the status of this investigation until its complete.

And it certainly seems odd that so many Rove cheerleaders from yesterday now feel the need to reinforce his innocence and continue to bash Leopold.

Sorry folks, I'm not buying and I don't think most of the other DU'ers are either.

But you're right, you do look silly.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 06:51 AM
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9. Suspicious how?
Please explain to me what is suspicious? Are you making an accusation?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 07:09 AM
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10. I haven't seen a single post
on DU "cheerleading" Rove or trying to reinforce his "innocence". Methinks you're reading posts on a forum that exists in an alternate universe. In other words, nonsense. There is Leopold bashing going on, and though it may sometimes be over the top, it's certainly not undeserved. Both this story and his prior history with Salon, don't speak well of his journalistic integrity. It's a shame. Personally, I never bought into the Leopold story simply because no other journalist backed it up. A single source isn't good enough for me. Not buying into the Leopold story, however, does not mean I think Rove is innocent or that I'm cheering for him. Far from it. As far as looking silly goes, you've done a masterful job of it.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 07:13 AM
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11. I'm holding my ground
Go back and read many of these posts carefully. They weren't just bashing Leopold, they were also advancing the idea that there was no evidence against Rove. Even the mainstream news didn't go as far as many of the posters here yesterday.

I'm sure someone like yourself who is careful in looking at evidence will want to take the time to review those posts carefully.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 08:59 AM
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14. Burden's on you
You made the accusation, so support it with evidence. Unless it's just your wacky interpretive framework that's producing your suspicion, as is suggested from your "read them carefully" business?
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 08:29 AM
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13. You're not silly....
you believed something because you wanted to, and that's human. Nobody is right 100% of the time, and it could be them looking "silly" next week, so rock on, and don't lose faith.

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