in '08 I will vote for a Democrat for President no matter what

[madokie]

with a dem I feel I have better than a 50-50% chance of having someone who will represent me, with a re:puke: I have a less than 50% chance. This time I want to stack the deck and see where it takes us.

[Jed Dilligan]

1. Me too although

the chances of a dem representing my views on the issues are about 99.99999-0.00001%

[Berserker]

4. If he or she is a DINO

fuck him or she did you hear that Hillary? If he or she is for the Iraq war fuck them.
If he or she is for open borders fuck him or she they are not for Americans.
These are my deciding factors and my opinion.

[Jed Dilligan]

6. The way I see it

The DINO will keep fighting the wars we're already in, but the neocon Repuke will start new ones as well.

[stevedeshazer]

8. Eloquent

:eyes:

[Robbien]

2. A DLCer will just continue the same path we are on today

Why would anyone vote against their principals just to get a repuke with a d instead of r after their name?

A Progressive will get my vote.

[skipos]

12. The old "no difference between a dem and a republican" line

that was as inaccurate in 2000 as it is now.

Clinton, Gore and Kerry were all DLCers and 1000 times better than any republican that will ever get the nomination.

[wildbilln864]

3. It won't much matter...

who you vote for as long as they have rigged machines with infrared recievers which can be used to manipulate the tally. As long as we're voting on corporately owned machines with no way to check or verify, nothing will get better.

[Staph]

5. I, too, will vote for any D in 2008.

A vote for any third party candidate is a vote wasted, a vote that will see another evil, nasty neo-con in charge for another four years. (See Bush v. Gore v. Nader, 2000.)



And now that I've slipped into my asbestos jammies, flame away!

[madokie]

7. Thats why we must vote D no matter what, it ups our chances

of getting representative government

[stevedeshazer]

10. I'm with you now

There's no other viable choice.

[Rocknrule]

9. What if it's Lieberman or Zell?

Voting for them is as good as voting Republican

[madokie]

11. It won't be miller or lieberman, trust me

[wuushew]

13. Sorry but the POTUS is determined by the Electoral College

Just as a Democratic vote in Utah is meaningless so is blindly supporting a centrist candidate who you merely hope will advance progressive views.

The goal should be to alter the candidate's behavior/candor not those of the voters. It is we who should hold the carrot not the other way around.

If politicians are truly the pragmatists they claim to be then addressing the left's complaints is the only logical way of increasing voting turnout. "Moderate" is a pleasingly label though not apt descriptor of views that if broken down by issue show clear favoritism towards liberal views/solutions in most Amerikans. In addition Herr Bush has so polarized the country that I don't believe that independents are even an extant species.


When Hillary loses in 2008 those involved in electioneering should question what attributes about her turned off the necessary number of votes in key states which failed to equal two hundred and seventy. Maybe next time we can run a less corporate friendly and pro-war with Iran candidate.

[madokie]

14. do you really think Hillary will be our candidate, I don't

No way in hell will that happen so why worry about her.

[Lost-in-FL]

15. This obsession with Hillary I don't understand

What if she is telling the truth and just want to be a Senator? And what if she wants to? She can run... and anyone can run. Diebold will always win with or withouth Hillary.

[Poiuyt]

16. Absolutely. We need to at least stop the bleeding

Protest votes (or abstentions) will put another Republican in office.