No More Predictions, No More Unnamed Sources.

[DistressedAmerican]

How many times do we have to see the left look like idiots because someone made a dated prediction of this event or that based on some personal source that (of course) they are not at liberty to divulge?

How many times have these predictions come true?

I can name a long list of stupid predictions that people around here chosen to believe only to see them not come to pass. It is usually followed by a shakeout period where lashing out is the order of the day. The number of these kind of predictions that I can think of that have turned out to be accurate are so few as to be laughable.

I try not to buy into these mass hysteria moments. We are all desperate for any political good news. Deservedly desperate. We have been beaten like dogs by the ugliest of political bullies, had our rights curtailed and worked hard against the abuses to see zero accountability delivered.

However, leaping on any scrap of unsubstantiated rumor that floats past is a symptom not a strategy. It is dysfunctional on many levels. When there is a specific date associated with such predictions, it is even more desperate and only seems to lead to a embarassment, anger and division.

Best not to endorse any rumor or prediction, even with the simple "sounds plausable" kind of statement especially when the source is a mystery. The collective track record on such things is very poor.

My suggestion: Believe in what has already happened not unsourced rumors about the future that sound temptingly satisfying, "if true".

[sweetheart]

1. speak for yourself

We are not a thought cult.

I predicted the computer voting fraud in 2004 election, i saw it in advance, just
like some of us here did, i "SAW" it in advance, and jeb and some republican senior
figures have run a covert conspiriacy to subvert an election. I believe in my heart
of hearts that is really what did happen, and i saw it coming and wrote about it here.

Some other people saw it coming, in their own way, and said it here too.

What are you suggesting we not look to make predictions, when we know fucking A well what
is going to happen, as much as its rather apparent when a truck drives over your mobile
telephone, its probably gonna be broken. It doesn't take a physics specialist to make
predictions aroudn here. When you start a land war in asia, you lose. When you start
a class war in america, you lose. When you start a race war in south america, you lose.
When you start a drugs war against your own kids, you lose. and on and on stupid stupid
stupid, the stupid people are so stupid and bloody predictable like rats... ferile rats.

Gosh if they weren't predictable, wouldnt that be amazing. Like that fat chipmunk rove,
stand your ground, we're in for the long run, is the goering of another crime, not a svengali,
a goering, but the brit blair isn't clued in yet, so we're really fucked. aaahhgahah!!! :banghead:

[DistressedAmerican]

3. I Believe I Did Speak For My Self.

Sorry if you find that trying to start a cult.

WFT?

People will make predictions. Does not mean the whole place has to go into overdrive over them. You need look no further than your reply to see exactly what I'm talking about. Wow.

Believe as you choose.

For the record, those kind of generalities that you mention are not what I'm talking about at all. Maybe if you'd take a breath and read, you'd understand that I'm referring to dated predictions coming from a few unnamed sources.

You could stand to take a step back from the ledge.

[Clarkie1]

6. I think the OP is against the rumor mill, not for a thought cult.

Recommended. Let's try and be a little less gullible than the other side. After all, we are supposed to to be the party of reason, reality, and science.

That implies a healthy dose of skepticism.

[DistressedAmerican]

7. Exactly. Thanks!

:hi:

[Montagnard]

2. Wishful thinking...

There is so much crap these past 6 years that people are willing and susceptible to going along with anything that smells of good news...sort of like whistling past the graveyard.

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

4. No Good News

I've learned that anything which sounds bad, is probably true. And whatever sounds positive and promising, will likely not happen.

So the fact rove got off is not a huge surprise. I admit to getting my hopes up, but looking back, that was unrealistic.

I refuse to think that the dems have a chance in November, because we'll probably get the rug pulled from under us somehow. It's frankly inevitible. Those in power are not going to allow it, and they'll continue to maintain control. Better I accept it now, than get hopeful that there is something bright on the horizon. It's probably the headlight of a train headed in my direction.

[sweetheart]

5. Underground writing

How long have you been writing messageboard political underground? I'm 8 years in. What works
is memorable invective, ideas that carry like little spores, in to mainstream underground that it
spread virally, as we don't have the advantage of broadband media. The truth is fucking irrelevant,
the TRUTH is how you feel about the truth... that travels like wildefire. Editors of publications
all over the world read DU, and each of them is competing with us to keep the interest of their
readers, but when we speak as regular folks who gott common sense, we're more interesting and ARE
that draw that is displacing the print media s a primary source. The guardian just when to the
web as primary a few days ago.

You're wasting your time copying the mainstream media underground.

We've already read the "truth" and we're alive and bored stiff iwth it, we know better,
we know these lying motherfuckers are ripping us off and its like watching a robbery and doing
nothing about it whilst they shoot people... this is the most horrible administration
to live through... they are fools beyond ohhha!! aahhh... i'm really sorry to burdern
you with emotional raving, but dammit! The time for a collective awakening is passing
short on...

What do you expect from all this? A "truth", how modern. Haven't we transcended modernism? Isn't
this a postmodern medium? We deconstruct truth here, some of us. I've been experimenting this year
with poetry, as i believe rhyming verse can better carry emotion, that shakespeare's sonnets, would
they not in meter, would have fallen dead on the ear and long been forgotten.

So your challenge here, sir, as another irrelevant author on the world underground, is to be real.
Be real from where *you* are comin' from, and sometimes that's a prediction, sometimes its an honest
essay telling us your not sure. But in coming "real", an artist connects deeper, more blues, more
soullike, IMHAO (A-arrogant! :-) ).

When i write a post, i feel like a guitarist who's just played an original composition. I'm still
on fire from playing it, so i can't really hear it until i've cooled down, and only then do i
have the perspective to say it sucks. Until them, its real.

namaste,
-s

[RagAss]

8. It doesn't matter anymore anyway.....

Rove has the gloves off and he will savage all Dem candidates in November. By the time he's done they'll be begging not to die in GITMO....