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patcox2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 03:17 PM
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Has Leopold completely changed his story?
Because in the first weeks after his false report that Rove had been indicted, he speculated that Sealed vs. Sealed was actually Fitzgerald vs. Gonzalez, and he speculated that Bush, through Gonzalez, tried to simply order him not to indict Rove, or tried to fire him, a'la Nixon's "Saturday night massacre." The speculation was that Fitzgerald was fighting an illegal order from above.

But now its an indictment. Completely different.

Is my memory faulty?
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 03:20 PM
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1. Excuse me.............
Let me correct you....the report was not false........If you are looking for a flame war...you indeed have drawn first blood. I hope the mods pay attention.

:popcorn:
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 03:22 PM
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2. I wish we had an update...
We could all use some good news.
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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:24 PM
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25. In Case You Missed It
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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 03:26 PM
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4. It most certainly was, in many people's opinion
The OP has as much right to call it false as others do to call it "not proven yet" or to say "wait and see."

Do you consider the claims that Leopold is correct to be flame wars also?

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patcox2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 03:29 PM
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5. How about answering my question?
Did he change his story on sealed vs. sealed?

What would you call the report that Rove was indicted? Inaccurate? Incorrect? Wrong? I am trying to figure out where I went wrong in calling it false.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 05:10 PM
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23. He stands by the story.....
He is providing clarification as to where the issue rests at the moment.
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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:27 PM
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27. Not The Way I Read It
My interpretation of today's story is that it's an explanation of how his solid sources could be right but the indictment isn't handed down yet and that KKKarl is still in the White House and out plotting the destruction of our democracy through his fundraisers.

To me, the only question now is how much longer this will take. Based on his past successes at stalling the people, my guess is that he will do everything in his power to string Fitz along until late October so that he can exercise the most power for the mid-term elections. I doubt that Fitz is naïve enough to take that bait but every passing day makes it more and more difficult to be patient.
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smartvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 03:30 PM
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7. The OP raised a legitimate question, even if you don't like it. nt
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 03:34 PM
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10. Yup. n/t
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IsIt1984Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 03:37 PM
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13. I concur.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 03:36 PM
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12. You're the only flame here.
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Tin Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 04:00 PM
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17. It's pretty clear that certain aspects of the report were false
...like the initial claim that Rove would be publicly indicted within 24 hours. Subsequently, after 24 hours had passed, Leopold claimed that "24 hours" really meant 24 business hours, i.e. 3 days. Subsequently, after 3 days had elapsed - it was pretty clear that at, at a minimum, either the timeline of the purported public indictment was false; or the indictment was sealed, as opposed to open as originally reported by Leopold.
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 03:22 PM
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3. Here we go again...
:popcorn:
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texasleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 03:29 PM
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6. 3....2.....1
:nuke:
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 03:32 PM
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8. No and yes. n/t
Take your pick.:)
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 03:33 PM
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9. I'm shocked this isn't already on the greatest page...
:popcorn:
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5X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 03:44 PM
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15. LOL, no kidding. n/t
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cutlass442 Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 03:35 PM
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11. We need an update !!!!!!
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:08 PM
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24. Hi cutlass442!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 03:39 PM
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14. I believe that was Madson, not Leopold
who was speculating about Gonzalez. But I could see how you could easily confuse the two.
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 03:46 PM
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No! It was Madsen and Tweety who said it was Gonzalez vs.
Fitz

Here's a diary from DKos about it:
<http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/5/21/184052/881>

You may still have time to delete...


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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 03:46 PM
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16. dupe.
Edited on Mon Jun-12-06 03:46 PM by Turn CO Blue



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Sammy Pepys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 04:01 PM
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18. They're just guessing now....
This whole thing has become a roulette wheel of sorts.
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 04:50 PM
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22. I just hope it isn't russian.
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Sammy Pepys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 08:37 AM
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28. Looks like it was.....n/t
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Jigarotta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 04:05 PM
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19. now it's down to One Source...
according to TO's Ash.
whatever happened to the other seven or more? were there ever that many? did they prove to be unreliable and were ditched (and shouldn't that have been done Before publishing the story?) or did they just decide not to play along?

how could a story of this magnitude be published on One source? isn't that very unjournalistic?

still Lots of questions.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 04:16 PM
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20. his specutation about sealed is just specutation
he is sticking by his story of the rove indictment and that sealed has something to do with it.

not changed, not verified. in limbo.
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 04:19 PM
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21. yes, your memory is faulty.
Leopold is not the one proposing that sealed vs. sealed was Gonzales vs. Fitzgerald. That was Wayne Madsen. To my my knowledge this is the first Leopold has commented on sealed vs. sealed.
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MazeRat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:24 PM
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26. Leopold played many, self not included, as fools.
But on the upside, he did say what many "wanted" to hear. So I guess a few weeks gossip on what "might be" was good to lift the hopes and expectations of a few.

MZr7
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