Why I Think We Were LIed To Again About How Zarqawi Died.....

[Jokinomx]

After watching the national news and seeing the video of the missles that blew up the building Zarqowi was supposedly in.....here are my untrained thoughts of why I don't believe anything our military says it has done.

First.... Two missles from an F-16 absolutely pulverize the building....they flattened the building to where I don't believe that any pile of bricks were over two foot high. If there were six people inside with Zarqawi all were pulverized with the building. The picture I saw of Zarqawi showed his body intact and looked quite bloated with just a few scrape marks on his face.

Second....They interviewed a military person on how they tracked with a drone a religious leader across Iraq, finally showing up at the home that Zarqawi was supposedly in. The miltary spokesman, then goes on to say that they didn't need the religious leader to lead them to Zarqawi, they knew he was inside the building anyway and just waited for the leader to go inside with the others. That is when they ordered the strike.

Why if they "knew" Zarqawi was in the building..... did they wait until this religious leader was in the building? Why didn't they show all the people that were in that building? Or were their bodies a little to spread out?

It just seems like they certainly would want to take him in alive for further questioning... since they "knew" he was in that building..... if they could wait for hours until the religious leader to show up, don't you think they could have surrounded the building and at least tried to capture him?

I know that I am not an expert in any of this... but... something just doesn't add up here.

and That's My Humble Opinion.....

[MadMaddie]

1. I thought the same thing....didn't they report he was outside the

buildings when the bombs were dropped? That would lead me to believe that the troops that surrounded the house could have shot him dead on the spot...Why didn't they do it....?

[jobycom]

4. They didn't say he was outside

That was one of the suggestions they made as to why he may not have been killed immediately. Unless that's changed. They do change stories often.

[fooj]

2. I don't believe the story that they are feeding us either.

I keep thinking about how an IED will blow off limbs and completely destroy tanks. How, then, did TWO 500 pound bombs leave Zarqawi's body intact? You are right. It doesn't add up, IMO.

[Jokinomx]

6. Exactly...

Then to wait for this religious leader to enter the building... I can't help but wonder if they just wanted to kill this leader and have a really good diversion to quell the outrage of his followers...so they see the opportunity to use the dead Zarqawi's body as the diversion.....and also link this leader to Zarqawi even if he wasn't connected. Thus putting all the followers of this religious leader in the crosshairs....


mmmmm....?

[Hoping4Change]

20. self delete

[marmar]

3. Even the apologist New York Times called it into question today...

Sounds like a big load of bollocks to me. Another choreographed event that BushCo is hoping people won't examine.

[MissWaverly]

10. you remember finding Sadaam in the hole was faked

it came out later.

[WestHoustonDem]

5. They just lie to us out of habit now. Even if the truth isn't

embarassing.

[spanone]

18. Not out of habit, out of necessity. Lies compound lies.

[applegrove]

7. Isn't propaganda the whole point of communications in war? We knew

this once. Let's remember it now. Take it all with a grain of salt. Any communications from the front. Unless done by a journalist you respect.

[DoYouEverWonder]

8. May I ask where you saw a picture of his body?

The only pictures I've seen are of his face only.

[jobycom]

9. As to why they didn't try to capture him

BushCo wanted him dead. They wanted the John Wayne vote, and finally killing someone just gets W all erect.

As to the rest of the story, I don't know yet. You make a lot of sense. But it's also possible that their story is true. Al-Zarqawi could have been shielded from the brunt of the blast any number of ways. Maybe he heard something at the last moment and dove into a bathtub, or a hole, or a shelter set up for an attack. Maybe he was just one of those people with quick instincts and a hardy constitution, and that could have even contributed to him surviving so long, and becoming a leader at what he did. Maybe he just happened to be behind a support column. Remember the assassination attempt on Hitler, where a bomb that should have obliterated him was placed behind a table leg and deflected, sparing him? Odd things happen.

Frankly, I just don't care. I don't see this one death as all that important. Bush lied to start this bloody occupation, and hundreds of thousands of people have died as a result. I'm just not going to waste a lot of my beautiful mind worrying about what else Bush is lying about. If he's lying or telling the truth this time, or if he even knows, I just don't care. Bush gets no credit from me for this either way.

[MissWaverly]

11. Look, Joe, the Islamic guy has been at GITMO for 4 years

he's been tortured for 4 years to find out about Al-Qaeda, now we have someone who is a major
figure in Al-Qaeda and what do we do, we drop 2 five hundred bombs and then say, oh look, he's
dead. They have been torturing Joe, the Islamic guy for 4 years for what is in this guy's head,
which we will never know because he's dead. Does this make sense?

[jobycom]

12. You're assuming Bush makes rational choices or that he even gives a damn

I think of him as too stupid to worry about such consequences. That was my first thought, too, that we should have tried to take him alive. But it would be less poll bounce for Bush, if he gets any at all. Bush wanted a dead guy, so he made a dead guy. He doesn't give a damn about Iraq or us. Plus, he doesn't really think al-Zarqawi was that much of a threat--he knows, he created him.

And, I doubt they really think Joe the Islamic Guy knows anything at all.

There's something fishy in every story BushCo tells. Maybe something else happened here. Or maybe it's just more proof that Bush is a mindless idiot.

[MissWaverly]

13. actually, I thought the military made this choice

he is always saying that he leaves things up to his commanders in the field

[theoldman]

14. I think that the US military made all of the decisions leading up to

the bombing. After that the Bush propaganda machine took over. We will never find out the truth.

[jobycom]

15. No way.

The military planned the attack, I'm sure, but no commander would kill such an important target without consulting the top of the chain, first. Whether that's Bush or Rumsfield or Cheney, that authorization would have come from the top.

It's possible it was a standing order, but even so, I bet they checked with the administration for authorization.

[MissWaverly]

16. Good point

[msatty99]

17. You are damn right it doesn't add up..

Of COURSE he wasn't in that building. DUH!! Did you see the building?
He was killed elsewhere under whatever circumstances and the world is given
this transparent 'cover' story. WHY? I have no foggy idea.

I got four words for ya'

"Pat Tillman Jessica Lynch"

Just more and more of the same old bull shit. LIES.

[Breeze54]

19. Did you ever see the video of United 232 crashing?

Did you ever see the video of United 232 crashing in Sioux City?
That was equivalent to a lot more than 1000 lbs of explosives.
And some people lived.

"Two missles from an F-16 absolutely pulverize the building....they flattened the building"

The same question came up early in the Iraq war. Surgeons wondered why soldiers with body army
and no serious penetrating injuries were dying from roadside bombs. The answer turned out to be
that the overpressure from the explosion caused a shockwave through the victim's blood vessels.
Sometimes the pressure was so great that the waves rolled right up into the brain and caused a hemorrhage.
If you bleed in your brain, your chances of dying quickly go up dramatically.
If Zarqawi was barely alive right after the attack, in fact had no obvious external injuries,
and died shortly thereafter, it may very well have been that he was bleeding inside his brain
as a result of the explosion's concussion.