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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 07:00 AM
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MSNBC/Reuters: Skimpy women’s clothing found at al-Zarqawi site
Edited on Sat Jun-10-06 07:51 AM by Cooley Hurd
If this isn't a psyops piece, I'll eat my hat...:grr:

(note: the title of my post comes from the headline at the link on MSNBC's home page - the headline on the actual article leaves out the word "skimpy")

(note #2: MSNBC changed their home page headline - no longer says "skimpy" but now says "lingerie")

HIBHIB, Iraq - The ruins of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi’s house are strewn with a random jumble of wreckage -- magazines, a leopard-print nightgown, a religious slogan and a few hints at the violent career of Iraq’s most wanted man.

<snip>

There were traces of al-Zarqawi’s radical ideology. A leaflet lying in the rubble identified a radio station in Latifiya south of the capital as an apparent target.

A few feet away was a magazine picture of former President Franklin D. Roosevelt.

Alongside the fractured concrete and twisted metal was a nightgown, other women’s clothes and a white man’s shirt.
</snip>

More at link.

I know FDR is revered in the middle east, but the inclusion of this little tidbit into the article makes me wonder about the author's motives.
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 07:02 AM
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1. Of course it's psyops. The Zarqawi thing seems to have been
but the women's nighties--a la J. Edgar Hoover--is just the icing on the PR cake.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 07:08 AM
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3. Not really
The fact their women are expected to cover up outside doesn't mean the same applies indoors.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 07:08 AM
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2. It's probably a takeoff on the old "Killroy was here,"
except, in this case, it means "Anne Limbaugh (nea Coulter) was here!"
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 07:08 AM
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4. How many days will the media whores get out of this story for the bu$h co?
I woke up this morning, turned the TV to NBC. The Today show was just starting with "BREAKING NEWS" Zarqawi still dead.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 07:11 AM
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5. Believe me under those black tents women are just women
I lived in Saudi Arabia and the stores will make your eyes bug out even as a Western person. Besides that the news always like to do that to these men. Like they were not human and did not watch girls dancing etc.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 07:14 AM
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6. Is this article implying that al-Zarqawi was a cross dresser?
Edited on Sat Jun-10-06 07:17 AM by Rhiannon12866
That seems unlikely, given his ideology. And I think that he's gotten quite enough bad press, being responsible for grisly beheadings and deadly bombings, that they hardly need to add this strange quirk to the mix!:shrug:

And if women lived in the house, since they were among the victims, this would explain the presence of women's clothing. The article should have mentioned that...:-(

As for FDR, if he's revered in the Middle East, then that could explain the pic.:-)
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Skeptor Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 07:14 AM
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7. A woman's and a child's body were also reported found in the house.
Al Zaqari was a psychopathic monster who might have deserved everything any of his enemies and vistims might have wished on him, but that innocents had to die even in his execution is tragic.
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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 07:14 AM
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8. They bombed a HOME where a woman lived.
A woman and a child are among the dead.

Muslim women wear lingerie in the privacy of their own homes too.
The author is just trying to drag the militants through the mud
with tawdry innuendo.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 07:36 AM
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11. The latest article I read said that three women were among the dead.
They still haven't confirmed the presence of a child. But this would certainly explain the presence of women's clothing in the house. The article should have mentioned that. The fact that they didn't causes me to agree with the OP that this article has a very suspicious agenda...:eyes:
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Notoverit Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 07:21 AM
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9. FDR pic - the Dems hand is everywhere! "BRING ON THE VIRGINS" was NY Post
banner next to the cadaver face pic. How long is this sickness going to go on?
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 07:30 AM
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10. I found it interesting that, before the FDR pic was mentioned...
Edited on Sat Jun-10-06 07:31 AM by Cooley Hurd
...they said, "There were traces of al-Zarqawi’s radical ideology. A leaflet lying in the rubble identified a radio station in Latifiya south of the capital as an apparent target," almost implying that FDR was part of al-Zarqawi's "radical ideology."


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Notoverit Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 09:18 AM
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29. See the same meme here - but on Iran - from Dildo Reilly
O'Reilly touted dubious assertions by "unbelievably good source" on U.S.-Iran diplomatic standoff
On his radio show, Bill O'Reilly alleged that an "unbelievably good source" had told him that Iran's strategy is to "make life so difficult for America that people do change administrations and they get a softer president in 2008." O'Reilly added that according to his anonymous source, Iran believes that this "softer" administration will allow Iran to "expand their brand of Islam throughout all of the Middle East." Read more
http://mediamatters.org/items/200606090008?src=other

"unbelievably good source - you have to love the irony here...
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 09:22 AM
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31. Sounds like he and Snow have a "phone thing" going...
Why do I not find that surprising? :eyes:
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 09:18 AM
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28. They also found a picture of Booosh...
Edited on Sat Jun-10-06 09:20 AM by Clark2008
A DUer posted a pic yesterday of a little boy holding it after he found it in the rubble.

Why didn't the author of this propaganda piece include that?

P.S. I found the picture:

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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 07:37 AM
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12. Alternate Reuters headline: Zarqawi's house offers clues and hints
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 07:42 AM
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13. MSNBC changed their home page headline - no longer says "skimpy"
Edited on Sat Jun-10-06 07:44 AM by Cooley Hurd
...but changed it to "lingerie."

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neoblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 08:06 AM
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15. After all, even "Skimpy Women" need Clothes too. nt.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 08:28 AM
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19. We sure do, LOL!
Thanks for the laugh! We need more of those, these days...:rofl:
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 07:45 AM
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14. As is the presence of the magazine photo of FDR
following a paragraph about his "radical ideology." Apparently, this has become one of the talking points...:grr:

<snip>
There were traces of Zarqawi's radical ideology. A leaflet lying in the rubble identified a radio station in Latifiya south of the capital as an apparent target.

A few feet away was a magazine picture of former U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt.

<snip>
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 08:13 AM
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16. The US military had embedded journalists, some female.



Why not Zarqawi? Could have been a non-Muslim with not-so-strict personal discipline.


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larrysh Donating Member (181 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 08:21 AM
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17. A "WHITE" man's shirt.....as opposed to?????? (EOM)
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 08:26 AM
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18. I think what they meant is that the shirt is white.
They have no way of knowing the color of the man who wore it...:shrug:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 08:55 AM
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21. "a white man’s shirt" vs "a men’s white shirt"
Edited on Sat Jun-10-06 09:01 AM by TahitiNut
It's taught in basic composition to use the latter sequence when "white" isn't used to modify the noun-modifier "man's" ... and I'm not even an English or journalism major. :shrug:

Consider the phrase "white man's burden" ... Kipling sure wasn't talking about a 'white burden.'

Reading the article, I can only conclude that the grammatical ambiguities and 'casual' references are deliberate - intentionally triggering reader prejudices and prurience.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 09:13 AM
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23. Gotcha. The way this was phrased did seem odd to me,
but I took it to mean what I thought it meant. I used to write professionally, so I should have known better. Reading it over, I agree with you. And, considering the OP, I should have been looking for this. This is the least of the ambiguities that have showed up in the reporting of this story.:eyes:
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 09:46 AM
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32. I was thinking that too
didn't know white men had special shirts jsut for them.

I know.. it was just a poor choice of word placement.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 08:45 AM
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20. I'm surprized they didn't find Feingold & Gore on his speed dial, as
Edited on Sat Jun-10-06 08:45 AM by Vidar
long as they're planting evidence.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 09:15 AM
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27. Great point! But they did find a photo of FDR among his effects.
And he's not here to defend himself, as Gore and Feingold are. Not that anything they said would make any difference to the MSM.:grr:
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 10:03 AM
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34. Right you are!
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Brazenly Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 09:05 AM
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22. Were they his size?
Have you ever seen Eddie Izzard and Zarq in the same room?

(Before EI fans jump on me, let me say it was just a joke - I think he's fab)
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 09:14 AM
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24. What's a "Skimpy" woman look like?
Not many of them sort runnin' around here.
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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 09:15 AM
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25. I'll bet
there's womens clothing in the WH too?
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 09:15 AM
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26. Only the Western media would never stop to think that
Muslim women wear underclothing too and report the presence of such items as someth salacious, shaded with sexual inuendo.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 09:19 AM
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30. It's my guess that they knew very well what they were doing.
And they couldn't resist the temptation to try to turn this into something uglier than it already is.:-(
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 10:00 AM
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33. Shades of Hoover?
Edited on Sat Jun-10-06 10:01 AM by JNelson6563
What, no feather boas? :shrug:
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