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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 04:35 PM
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NY doggy is cooked to death...
The above is the tease for tonight's NBC 5:00 news.

A small, 10 lb. Shi-tzu was placed in a doggy dryer at the groomer in Brooklyn. The doggy was left unattended with the timer set for the same length of time that would dry a Rottweiler. Needless to say, the little doggy was found dead in the dryer.

As the devoted pet parent of an overweight toy poodle, this story makes me SICK!

The doggy belonged to an 8 year old girl who NBC describes as being "devastated." The video of the poor little girl and her mom is heartbreaking. The mom says she can't get the picture of her doggy in that dryer out of her mind. It just makes me want to scream.

One of the politicians in the area (sorry, I forgot his name and title) is introducing a bill to forbid the use of this kind of machine until some changes are made. I think the doggy's name was Priscilla and they are naming the bill the "Priscilla Bill."

The pet store owner offered to buy the family a new dog, but the mom turned it down. She said the only thing she wants is for the bill to pass.

I think this is horrendous. I think the store owner should have SOME type of puunishment ... not jail, but maybe some kind of community service or fine or SOMETHING!
This kind of inattention is criminal!
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 04:41 PM
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1. Well, first of all, I wouldn't exactly call it criminal
Neglect, stupidity, sure, but not criminal. Everybody makes mistakes:shrug:

However what is being overlooked here is why in the hell are groomers nationwide using these machines? If you are drying an animal, air drying is much better for the coat and skin of the animal. Put any animal under hot air and your going to wind up with dry skin problems. And if you absolutely, positively have to force dry the animal, towel it down and then use a hand held dryer on a very low heat setting.

This wasn't a crime, this was a tragic mistake. But I am glad to see that they'll now work on legislation to make these machines safer.
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larrysh Donating Member (181 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 05:42 PM
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21. Judge Judy would LOVE this one!!!! *EOM*
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 04:44 PM
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2. if it were a human in there it would be a crime, wouldn't it?
I see no difference in killing a dog or killing a human. I think the term is negligent homicide on law and order.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 04:54 PM
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5. I agree! Lets also convict people for breeding/spaying their animals!

It's illegal to forcibly breed or sterilize people so we should be justified in convicting people who do it to animals .

Buying and selling animals? Same thing.

Putting an animal down? That sounds like premeditated murder to me...life sentence!

:eyes:
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 05:20 PM
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14. DUers typically equate people with animals....
... It's just one of those things you gotta get used to... Those who think that people are VASTLY more important, from a moral standpoint, than (mere) animals are decried as "heartless" and without any "sympathy", etc.

What happened to the puppy is pretty gross, of course, and there should be some kind of consequence - but certainly nothing of the sort that should be expected from killing a person in such a manner.
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 05:00 PM
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7. On law and order?
really?
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 05:23 PM
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15. you caught it. i was being funny. but yes on law and order.
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DoveTurnedHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 05:07 PM
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10. You See No Difference?
Wow. Find some perspective.

DTH
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 04:48 PM
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3. Where the hell were the Groomers?
If they left an animal unattended in a potentially lethal machine then there should be HELL to pay. It should be a crime for this to even be possible.
:grr:

The lack of responsibility for how animals are treated really pissed me off.
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Asgaya Dihi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 04:50 PM
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4. It varies from shop to shop.
Edited on Fri Jun-09-06 04:59 PM by Asgaya Dihi
My wife is a dog groomer and I worked in a kennel for a year or so when I was a kid. It really varies between one place and another and a lot of the people who end up handling animals are just kids there to bathe for a few dollars a dog. I took vet tech training and taught what I was learning to my wife as I picked it up, never had a lot of use for it myself but she's brought back a handful of dogs who had stopped breathing. Heart attack in some cases, at least twice where someone left a dog for a moment and it hung itself. The tables have a noose to keep the dog in place but you have to be sure they don't step off the edge.

She's good but a couple of people she's worked with over the years weren't and the quality varies widely from place to place. In general the smaller shops that tend to be more word of mouth are better from what I've seen and the chain types are an accident waiting to happen and overpriced.
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 04:58 PM
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6. There was a case in Florida
about 15 years ago where the same thing happened to a similar small breed dog. The owners sued the groomer and were awarded $200,000 for emotional distress, I kid you not.
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Doohickie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 05:02 PM
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8. I agree:
"I think the store owner should have SOME type of puunishment ... not jail, but maybe some kind of community service or fine or SOMETHING!"

Yeah... sue the person who put the dog in the dryer for all they're worth, and also the store owner for not properly training/overseeing said person.
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 05:05 PM
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9. Imagine the responces to this
on the freeptard site? On second thought, don't.
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GregW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 05:14 PM
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11. What in the heck is a "doggy dryer"
At my place (and our dog wash) we call it a 'towel'.

:eyes:
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 05:31 PM
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19. ...or the carpet...
:rofl:
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 05:33 PM
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20. A device that should know the humidity of the air
With the proper sensors, this should never have happened. The doggie dryer maker
is the ultimate culprit, IMO, as the device should know the relative humidity of
the air, and shut off when it is "dry".
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 10:04 PM
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27. Evidently the groomer failed to change the setting from
that for a large dog to that of a tiny dog. Again, I say carelessness and inattention. This amounts to absolute cruelty in my estimation. Later in the evening the news showed little children who had been left in the car on very hot days and who died in much the same way.
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 10:02 PM
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25. This doggy dryer was a very large cage and there was a motor
attached to the front of it. There were about three of these machines in the video shot of same and each was large enough to accomodate big dogs.
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oddtext Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 05:14 PM
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12. As a crimimal defense lawyer
i would say that this is criminal case. it's not a felony -- my stomach tells me that it should be in that my heart breaks for that girl -- but a misdemeanor. there is negligence so gross that it will amount to a criminal act. here, someone holding a license to do this kind of business was so negligent that the girl's dear property was destroyed due to that gross negligence. many states, including mine -- NC -- have statutes protecting animals from negigent/abusive treatment. this case fits.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 05:57 PM
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23. My dog doesn't require that kind of grooming, and I do the little
grooming that he requires myself, but I will tell you that if it had been my dog, nothing but a criminal case would do.

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oddtext Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 05:16 PM
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13. As a crimimal defense lawyer
i would say that this is criminal case. it's not a felony -- my stomach tells me that it should be in that my heart breaks for that girl -- but a misdemeanor. there is negligence so gross that it will amount to a criminal act. here, someone holding a license to do this kind of business was so negligent that the girl's dear property was destroyed due to that gross negligence. many states, including mine -- NC -- have statutes protecting animals from negligent/abusive treatment. this case fits.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 05:24 PM
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16. People love animals. They hate to see them hurt the same way
Edited on Fri Jun-09-06 05:25 PM by roguevalley
people hate to see children hurt. Animals can't talk, fight half their abuse and they die all the time due to assinine idiot people. I am one of those that equate the responsibility for having an animal in your life equal to having a child. I don't care what people think about that. I don't give a damn. That
little dog died in agony. I would never have left it there. I would have stayed and watched and intervened if it looked wrong. If they said I couldn't my dogs would be out of there. Poor dog. It didn't deserve this. Its criminal negligence.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 05:31 PM
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18. We are responsible for caring for the animals on this earth.
since we have taken charge of it.
not the other way around.
I know they are legally property, although that is starting to be challenged.
(Here in the city of west hollywood, california they are no longer considered property. We are their legal guardians. So cats are no longer allowed to be declawed, for example.)
I think it may be more cruel to kill an animal than a person, when that animal is defenseless.
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 05:29 PM
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17. I would think publicizing the name of the pet grooming business
and their negligence would be punishment that's appropriate. BTW, what is the name of the business? (Not mentioned in post).
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 10:09 PM
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28. The name of the business was Brooklyn Animal and Zoo
From the outside it looked like quite a large store. The reporters interviewed some neighbors who siad they would never go in the place again, but on the other hand, there were some neighbors who said the opposite.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 05:50 PM
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22. This happened to a shi tzu last year too
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 05:57 PM
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24. self-deleted
Edited on Fri Jun-09-06 06:11 PM by KrazyKat
Sorry.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 10:03 PM
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26. Holy crap! How terrible. Poor little pooch and poor little girl.
:cry:
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