White folks are starting to sit on their pitty pots.

[Mountainman]

I've been thinking a lot lately about what the future will be with a conservative majority on the Supreme Court and conservatives in power generally. The picture that comes to me every time is the picture if the disappearance of the white middle class. All my life, I will be 60 in a couple of months, I've seen the struggle of minorities in this country to become as well off as the white middle class. Now it seems to me that things are reversing. The white middle class is going to become what the minorities were.

I see a lot of posts here about how we can't afford a house or can't get a good paying job. Think what it was like for African Americans before their civil rights fight. They could not live where they wanted or could afford a house or get a decent job. Think about what it is like to be gay in a country that says you are sinful and immoral just for being the way you were born.

White folks are now going to have to live like the minorities have done for centuries. The wealthy in this country are leaving less and less for all of us. The wealth is piling up on one side and the rest of us will have to share what little is left.

So what did the minorities do when faced with accepting their fate? Did they get on their pitty pots and cry about how bad the state of affairs is for them? Theygot out of their chairs and marched in the streets. The fought and died for a better way of life for their kids.

So stop telling me how bad you have it and let's have a new middle class civil rights movement!

[global1]

1. I Wonder If This Is All About Us Baby Boomers.......

our generation (baby boomers) is getting to the age where we will become a drain on the system. I wonder if everything that is going on with the bankruptcy changes, medicare, healthcare, gas prices, corporate pension plans, interest rates, etc has anything to do with us impacting the system.

[Beam Me Up]

3. What's driving the system are the fascists behind it.

It really is that simple. Oh, I don't doubt that the baby boomer generation is having an economic impact but the real problem is the way wealth is a) defined and b) distributed. We live on one of the richest planets in the universe and that wealth is not evenly distributed. Those who can steal it from the rest of us and get away with it, do.

[shraby]

4. They want to blame it on the boomers, but

the boomers have been paying into the system for a long time, sufficiently so that their retirement should be covered by social security. Not only that, but the amount taken from their check for ss was raised to help cover the perceived coming shortfall. Don't take the blame, that belongs squarely on congress for borrowing it and spending it.

[acmejack]

10. It's about them stealing all the money out of the SS trust fund!

And trying to weasel out of paying it back!

[DoYouEverWonder]

2. I know people might think this is outrageous

But if we legalized industrial hemp and marijuana and had a good science based program to teach young people safe methods of birth control and encourage people not to have more then 2 kids, we could all live healthy and prosperous lives.

[jokerman93]

12. I like the idea

A hobbit culture would be far better than what we have, bro.

:toast:

[NaturalHigh]

14. Just curious...

What would legalizing hemp and marijuana have to do with improving our lives? Are you talking about the benefits of taxing it, or something else?

[MadHound]

15. Hemp is a great industrial crop

Grows anywhere(it's a weed), makes products like paper, cloth, biodiesel, food, plastics and many others cheaper(once production was up to speed) with a higher quality than comparable products. It is probably the most feared crop in the land by big corporations. It would put the lumber and cotton industry almost completely out of business, it would put a serious dent in the oil and plastics industry. And it would benefit the small farmers, those that are left. It was a regular part of the crop rotation one hundred years ago, nurturing the soil while providing a solid cash return. Check out some jeans from one hundred years ago, their made from hemp. Go to a small town feed store, one that has been around for sixty or more years. Let you nose guide you and you just might find some feed bags, that while being antiques, are still servicable. I have a hemp rope that I got in my grandfather's barn. I still use it for work. Many of the ancient texts that are in good shape were printed on hemp paper.

As for marijuana, sure, legalize it. Put all of those people who are behind bars for dope back into society, in order that they be good, taxpaying citizens. Tax the dope itself. Shut down what is now obscenely known as the "prison industry" It is better for society as a whole, but the trouble is that this War on Drugs makes too much money for the rich few. Thus, it remains the illegal.

[Little Star]

5. middle class civil rights movement

I really like that name for a movement. It speaks volumes.

[Skidmore]

6. There are a whole lot of white folks out t here who are poor too.

I grew up poor, dirt poor. I knew a lot of poor white people. The middle class as we know it is a relatively new phenomena. The wealthy are a minute fraction of all colors. The middle class as we know it are just becoming aware of how much closer they are to the poor than the rich.

[Skittles]

9. my dad was military enlisted with six kids

not dirt poor but no money for "extras" - modest places to live, hand-me-down clothes - but we never went hungry, not ever

[HysteryDiagnosis]

7. This economy has brought me excellent working conditions.. or is

it the fact that there aren't other decent places to go to.... dunno.

[catnhatnh]

8. The sad part is they thought they won....

when Reagan said "Mr Gorbechev, tear down this wall..." never realizing that never was Soviet Russia in a position to entice the american middle class to revolution...the standard of living for the average russian was a joke....but they ALWAYS got enough food to live,some crowded form of shelter, and rudimentary health care....And the russians had strict gun control....how long till the conditions average russians lived under look like utopia to a percentage of our (armed) populace???

[jody]

11. IMO, we’re fighting a class war, wealthy vs. poor, and the strategy is

to keep racial groups fighting each other as a distraction while the wealthy solidify their control over our government and world’s resources.

We encourage our military troops to use demeaning names for our enemies from eastern countries while members from the wealthy class hobnob with their counterparts from those same eastern countries. I doubt that we would have conflicts with North Korea, Iran, etc. if those countries had a few wealthy families controlling their country's businesses.

Our DOD dominates the world and when multinational corporations based in other countries become a significant player in our national economy, e.g. Toyota and Hyundai, then we use DOD to protect their investments in other countries. The U.S. military is the international police force of the NWO.

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Toyota Motor Corporation also abrreviated as TMC, is a multinational corporation that manufactures automobiles. The headquarters of Toyota is located in Toyota, Aichi. Toyota also provides financial services and participates in other lines of business. It manufactures vehicles under the brand names Toyota, Scion and Lexus, and owns a majority stake in Daihatsu, and 8.7% of Fuji Heavy Industries. The company's Toyota automobiles are well regarded for their longevity and reliability.

Toyota is Japan's biggest car company and the second largest in the world after General Motors. It produces an estimated eight million vehicles per year, about a million fewer than the number produced by GM. The company dominates its home market with about 40% of all new cars registered in 2004 being Toyotas. Toyota also has a large market share in both the United States and Europe. It has significant market shares in several fast-growing South East Asian countries.

The company produces a large range of vehicles which are generally highly regarded for their quality, engineering, and value; their designs set global standards for safety, reliability and ease of maintenance.
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[formernaderite]

13. start conserving...cut back

We downsized almost twenty years ago. Don't buy much besides fuel and food. We're not nervous because we know just how little we can live on. The other thing we need to tell people, is to go out and create your own living...I mean start a business. Stop relying on some asshole to give you work. The last thirty years have reared a dependant society. Young people want everything NOW, no one saves money for a downpayment...so no wonder they can't buy anything. Oh, and they only want to live in NEW houses. Sorry, all I hear is people bitching about not being able to buy this or that...turn the heat down to 60 degrees, make something yourself.

AND Stop WASTING!!!