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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 04:46 PM
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Neil Cavuto interviews RFK JR.
Yeah, so it was Fox, so what? Its mainstream.

RFK was great. And the democratic images in the background were cool to see.

Robert said the reason he wrote what he did was because it appears the election was stolen and its never too late to talk about the election process being broken.

The host, Cavuto, was respectfully belligerent towards our man and rushed him through the interview. At one point he brought up the '60s vote scam and then later said he didn't want to talk about it!

I know it's like sticking your head in the toilet, but ya gotta see our man Robert speaking for us.
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 04:47 PM
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1. RFK, JR...

My man..."Crimes Against Nature" is proudly displayed on my bookshelf. Maybe one day Ill get him to sign it for me.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 04:52 PM
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2. On a radio show, they said RFK said he has no proof.
Did he? If he doesn't have any proof, then why hasn't he contacted all his legal beagle buddies and get the investigations done to PROVE IT? Continuous accusations aren't going to do anything.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 05:07 PM
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3. He has proof
That radio show is full of puke. There have been many new facts brought out recently. Besides the facts that keep coming out concerning the machines, some data was released in Ohio that our experts have used to determine how many votes were stolen from Kerry. 80,000 at least.

Nationally, proof is trickling in. But as for Ohio, the NGU activists there are showing the process there to have been corrupted. Thousands of people were removed from the voter rolls just before the election, and numbers derived from the data have determined how the 80,000 were stolen from Kerry and shifted to bush.

Kerry won Ohio, according to the facts. Ohio would have given Kerry enough electoral votes to win. It did, but it was stolen from him... and us.

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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 05:12 PM
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4. lookee here, from seminal RFK RS article:
{Ken} Blackwell made Katherine Harris look like a cupcake,'' Conyers told me. ''He saw his role as limiting the participation of Democratic voters. We had hearings in Columbus for two days. We could have stayed two weeks, the level of fury was so high. Thousands of people wanted to testify. Nothing like this had ever happened to them before.''

When ROLLING STONE confronted Blackwell about his overtly partisan attempts to subvert the election, he dismissed any such claim as ''silly on its face.'' Ohio, he insisted in a telephone interview, set a ''gold standard'' for electoral fairness. In fact, his campaign to subvert the will of the voters had begun long before Election Day. Instead of welcoming the avalanche of citizen involvement sparked by the campaign, Blackwell permitted election officials in Cleveland, Cincinnati and Toledo to conduct a massive purge of their voter rolls, summarily expunging the names of more than 300,000 voters who had failed to cast ballots in the previous two national elections.(55)
In Cleveland, which went five-to-one for Kerry, nearly one in four voters were wiped from the rolls between 2000 and 2004.(56)

There were legitimate reasons to clean up voting lists: Many of the names undoubtedly belonged to people who had moved or died. But thousands more were duly registered voters who were deprived of their constitutional right to vote -- often without any notification -- simply because they had decided not to go to the polls in prior elections.(57) In Cleveland's precinct 6C, where more than half the voters on the rolls were deleted,(58) turnout was only 7.1 percent(59) -- the lowest in the state.

According to the Conyers report, improper purging ''likely disenfranchised tens of thousands of voters statewide.''(60) If only one in ten of the 300,000 purged voters showed up on Election Day -- a conservative estimate, according to election scholars -- that is 30,000 citizens who were unfairly denied the opportunity to cast ballots.
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 05:15 PM
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5. The thing that makes me go hmmmm

Is, how can one be SO SURE the election in their state is a "gold standard". Anytime questions about election credibility cropup, instead of posturing one needs to seriously address the issues.

It was the "gold standard" because Blackwell got the results he wanted.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 05:22 PM
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6. You're missing my point! See that word "LIKELY "?
I'm not talking about probability, or likely, or "I'M SURE". I'm talking about PROVABLE IN COURT!

If you read my post, you'll see I asked why RFK Jr hasn't contacted some of his leagle beagle buddies and FIND THE PROOF! File a law suit!

I believe Fla, and OH were compromised, but "I" can't prove it! I don't have the friends, connections, or $$, but RFK does!

I'm getting a bit tired myself of hearing about all the speculation, and assumptions that the votes had to be compromised because of what we know so far.

Prove it, or let it go.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 05:39 PM
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7. Prove it?
Several lawsuits are weaving through the labyrinth of the court system in Ohio.

It would help the cause if the People would get behind that weaving.

Tell us, though, since you brought it up, don't you think the government should prove to us that they have our consent?
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 07:13 PM
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8. Our consent to do what? I don't understand your question.
'm talking aobut altering election results.

If you are referring to scrubbing the voter rolls, yes, of course the Gov't has to prove they,NOT have our consent, but that all the voter names that were purged were ones that should have been! The only way I know of to force that to happen is via lawsuit.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 07:53 PM
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12. Our consent
The goverment operates under the theory that they do so with our consent... meaning that we elect them, fair and square.

So, do they? Are they operating with our consent? I say no. And it is their duty to prove otherwise. But, they can't. There is no record, since 80% of the vote was vapor votes, cast on e-voting machines.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 09:32 PM
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13. That's an interesting concept. I haven't thought about it that way, and
I'm not sure you can file a lawsuit that way...you must prove to me that you did everything right?

I agree with your idea, but I still think the only way to resolve this issue is to file suit...perhapse a class action on behalf of all American voters...to acuse the states of fraud. In that case, they're only option is to prove they didn't.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 07:37 PM
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10. That was Ed Schultz
My local AAR uses Schultz instead of Randi. On many days, he's a real piece of shit.

Today was one of those days.

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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 07:23 PM
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9. Sorry, but there's no way I'll watch Neil Cavuto.
He is arguably the most repellent TV host. Right up there with Rita Cosby in terms of a horrible, grating voice.

I know it's petty of me to judge a talking head on looks and voice and mannerisms, but Cavuto is just too thoroughly ugly. We call him the "fat head". How the hell did he ever get his job?! Is his dad the CEO of Fox? He's unbearable. Ugly inside and out.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 07:48 PM
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11. I'd never seen him before
He is an ass.

But, day-umm, Robert sure looked good. And I think his message was strong. Of course, I was in total agreement with him, so maybe I was biased?
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