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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 08:04 AM
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Is border-fence building really rocket science...check out these pics
Edited on Tue Jun-06-06 08:11 AM by Atman
I noticed this this morning in a large AP photo of the new fence being erected by BushCo. I couldn't find the actual pic online, so I did a quick Google image search and came up with plenty of other examples...





Now, if I actually were a rocket scientist, or even a fence designer, one of the first things I'd take into consideration is the physics involved with climbing. Look at the pics of our border fence. Is it just me, or does it seem to make very little sense to place the corrugated panels horizontally so that they act as ladder rungs for would-be climbers? I mean, if you want to make this even a little tough to climb, wouldn't you place them vertically?

So...is our government really that stupid, that incompetent, or do they actually want to make sure the cheap laborers don't sprain an ankle or something before showing up for their $3/hr jobs Americans won't do?
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 08:09 AM
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1. Even if you build it with the wall angled back toward the climber...
a hook and a rope would do the trick.

Unless you build Nazi guard towers and shoot to kill,
the wall will fail.

Do we really want to be like the guards that scared the
shit out of at Checkpoint Charlie?
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 11:44 AM
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15. I think we need a flaming moat
filled with flame resistant alligators.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 08:11 AM
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2. The deluxe fencing had chrome handrails and non-slip toe-holds.
So we had to cut back in the name of fiscal responsibility.

That is so funny..............
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 08:13 AM
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3. Not so much "fence" as "jungle gym".
Do they have to cross a perilous see-saw next?
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 08:16 AM
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4. No matter how well your fifteen foot-high fence is designed and built,
there is someone out there with a sixteen foot ladder.
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 08:18 AM
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5. What about all of the tunnels they keep finding? Seems to me you build a
wall they can't climb then logic says go under the wall. Heck even in the dark ages people figured that out. Another puke illusion of making americans safe, freepers see the wall and say I'm now safe. Really makes one wonder how these people made it out of childhood.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 08:35 AM
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6. Hell, my puppy dog was smart enough to figure that one out!
Fence me in? Just dig under. Woof.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 08:52 AM
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7. It would be nice to make it a bit more challenging?
I mean something my tired old self would at least have some trouble getting over...
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 08:55 AM
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8. WTF?!? This is what they built down there?
All that talk from * and govenors and this is what they build?
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jerry611 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 08:58 AM
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9. Texas wants to add cameras for broadcast over the web
Volunteers all over the US can log in and view the border from security cameras over the internet. When an illegal is seen jumping over the fence, the border patrol can be alerted.

Kind of like an "armchair minuteman."
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 11:22 AM
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11. Keep the "armchair minutemen" busy. Otherwise they'll find time to breed.
Lesser of two evils, no?
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Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 11:00 AM
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10. Take a closer look at the materials
The panels are longer than 16 ft, but quite narrow. Running them vertically would mean more posts.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 11:30 AM
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12. A 16' vertical wall would be a bitch to scale, though!
So if it takes twice as many posts, use twice as many posts. I mean, if the goal is actually to keep poeple out (or in). Since when has our government ever cared about silly little issues like too many posts when SECURITY is the issue? Like those levees in NO...they needed to hold back major storm surges, so they spared no expense and used the strongest materials, buried deep beneath the ground for added rigidity and to resist being blown over and...oops, wait...no they didn't. The slapped some big Jersay barricades on a mud pile but then didn't even bother to and out life vests. So I guess this border fence is a pretty typical project after all.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 11:36 AM
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13. A fence will do little good if it is not patrolled with people. So it is
a good question of why not hire enough people to do the patrols, install some electronic monitoring, and forget the fence?
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 11:43 AM
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14. razor wire on top might deter climbers
just sayin.

of course, you throw a tarp over that, and you're good...
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 12:10 PM
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16. Not only that: Minutemen are using MEXICAN concrete for theirs
A week ago Univision did a story on the a-holes, and the camera panned over to a stack of bags of cement. They were neatly stacked, and the logos on the sides said, in big block letters, "Mescla Concreto" (concrete mixture. The Minutemen supporters here said that this was the sad fact that nothing is made in the U.S.A. anymore. I don't believe that and prefer to cite this as an example of the Minutemen's moran-ity.
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