Though they never say it, Homophobes would like to KILL homosexuals.

[Philosoraptor]

You can hear it in their voices, they just drool over the idea of gay concentration camps.

[ThomWV]

1. And sometimes they do ....

[xchrom]

2. may i add -- they used to say it -- alot.

[Minnesota Libra]

3. I've got good news and bad news about this assumption...........

.......of first "Homophobes" also wanting to kill all homosexuals. First of all, that's an off the scale assumption and one that needs to be reviewed for it's absurdity.

Many of those labeled "Homophobes" are simply interested in providing for OUR OWN COUNTRYMEN first and foremost. If free medical care (ER the most expensive) is to be available to anyone it should be available to our own LEGAL CITIZENS long before it's available to illegal aliens. The same goes for all other social services. So if having the interests of OUR OWN LEGAL citizens at heart is "homophobic" then I'd suggest there are many more "homophobics" in this country than anyone at DU has a clue of.

As for wanting to "KILL homosexuals", that's just an absurd comment. I don't agree at all with the need for a Constitutional Amendment setting out what the definition of "marriage" is and who can be married. It's obviously simply a neocon/fundie ploy to the base and is seen by many as exactly that. I think many people agree that it's none of their business what two consenting adults do in their own bedroom.

All that having been said, to go on and suggest with no use of :sarcasm: that if person wants to have secured borders and provide for OUR OWN CITIZENS long before we worry about the rest of the world makes them automatically inclined to condone killing gays is just absolutely absurd.

[Philosoraptor]

4. Wow, my post was reviewed for it's absurdity.

So I scored high?

[The Icon Painter]

8. I Do Not Intend to be Rude

But - do you understand the meaning of the word 'homophobe'? I find it difficult to understand how anyone who does know what the word means could connect it to border security and illegal aliens. Can you explain to me how you did this?

[Minnesota Libra]

15. The only connection is the absurdity of some of the arguments for.........

....and against both issues. That was what I was trying to point out.

Wanting to supposedly "kill gays" is just as absurd as accusing someone of supposedly being "anti immigrant" for wanting to look out after our own first and foremost. That was my reason for comparing the two - just the absurdity of some arguments involved.

[ComerPerro]

25. Sorry, its not the same. While some may have valid reasons

for wanting to keep out illegals and for wanting to make being illegally in the country a felony, there is NO ACCEPTABLE REASON for wanting to ban homosexuals for being married.

There is no noble cause, there are no "good intentions" here.

Its just bigotry.

[Minnesota Libra]

36. The absurdity I was referring to was because of the op................

....saying people want to kill homosexuals. I'm trying to show the absolute absurdity in that assumption by comparing it to other absurdities.

[LostinVA]

37. Some people DO want to kill gay people

People have. As well as rape lesbians. That isn't absurd, it's truth. And it's all connected.

[im10ashus]

9. How does homophobia connect to border control?

You have left me with my head shaking over that one.

:shrug:

[Minnesota Libra]

16. Check out post # 15 for that answer nt

[Touchdown]

33. Post #15 makes no sense either.

You need to further clarify your point about absurdity.

[Minnesota Libra]

34. Considering that I wrote the post..................

...in reply to someone else's comments do you suppose I may not have been too concerned whether it made sense to you or not? :shrug:

[Touchdown]

35. Good point. You haven't been concerned with making sense

in any of the posts you've made so far, so why stop? Might as well lead others to a post you constructed to be understood by one person.;)

[Starbucks Anarchist]

13. What do homophobes have to do with illegal immigration?

:shrug:

[Minnesota Libra]

17. Check out post # 15 nt

[LostinVA]

19. WTF???

[bigtree]

22. got to ask

what is it about gay and lesbian marriage that threatens "OUR OWN LEGAL citizens?"

spell it out or get off of it. You can't come here with that argument and be taken anymore seriously than Bush without spelling out just what it is about gay and lesbian marriage that you are asserting threatens the provision of "our own citizens."

What 'social services' are at issue and what are the statistics that back up your assertion that someone should feel a need to 'protect' their interests against gays and lesbians?

[Rocknrule]

32. Gays and lesbians ARE our own citizens

They are not 2nd class or subhuman, even though the RW wants them to be classified as such

[ComerPerro]

24. what the hell are you talking about?

[one_true_leroy]

30. are you sure you don't mean xenophobia?

that makes more sense in your arguement.

[Crankie Avalon]

5. They never say it, but homophobes would like to HAVE SEX with homosexuals.

A great many homophobes do, anyway.

[Random_Australian]

10. Freudian reaction formation you mean? They did some experiments

on this (in particular that homophobes really do, deep down, want to be gay) and either anxiety or arousal occured, no doubt about it.

However, even when measuring tumescence, you cannot differentiate between anxiety and arousal, so who knows? But I think it is true. I wonder when we will have the proof. And more inportantly, the mean, S.D., cognition factors, cognition errors, causality (...)

[meow2u3]

11. A great many extreme homophobes would like to...

have sex with homosexuals--and then kill them!

[Redbear]

6. The Old Testament (Leviticus) Requires Death for Homosexuality

Maybe a Dem Senator should seek to amend the FMA to state that all homosexuals should be killed.

I wonder how many votes it would get?

I'm pretty sure Brownback and McConnell woudl go for it.

[bigtree]

7. or they'd have their God do it

[noonwitch]

12. If anyone noticed, the right never cared when Fred Phelps was picketing

Matt Shepard's funeral, and his freaks were holding up signs that said "Matt is in hell" or worse.

They only started caring when the freaks started picketing military funerals.

IMO, they are equally sick in both situations. But many on the right probably think that Matthew's death was less of a tragedy than a military death.

[theHandpuppet]

18. Thanks for the reminder

The Phelps clan had been picketing the funerals of gays for years before people decided to get outraged and only then when they started picketing military funerals. In fact, I suspect that the Phelps clan was getting so little mileage out of picketing gay funerals -- including gays who were the victims of hate crimes -- that they decided they needed to violate something people actually cared about. When it was the families and parents of gays who suffered, no one gave a shit, including the media.

[ComerPerro]

26. That's cause, until recently, the right wing completely agreed with Phelps

[Xenotime]

14. You are right.

Homophobes are greedy right-wing creeps looking to eliminate those who see things the way they do.

[porphyrian]

20. Misuse of the Word "Phobia"

I know this is nit-picking to a certain extent, but language is very important. A phobia is a fear. Not everyone who is against homosexuality is a homophobe. In fact, I doubt half of them actually are. While it is true that people tend to hate those things that they fear, this is not reflexive. Most of the anti-gay hatred is simply pack mentality establishment of "superiority" over others who are different. The level of viciousness and hatred may indeed increase with those who are genuinely homophobic, but this is not the rule.

While I enjoy seeing the assholes fume and wince when they are called homophobic, it is important that we understand what this word means and that it doesn't actually apply in half the cases that it is used. This is also true of other misuses of "phobia," which I've seen bandied about.

[Marnieworld]

38. my peeve as well

It's not fear. It's hate. Gay hate. Fat hate (a thread recently was "fat phobia"). It really bugs me. It almost excuses the hater to me. "He's not hating he's just scared of the gays." Puhleeze!

[porphyrian]

39. Ha! I almost posted this same thing there. - n/t

[GreenArrow]

21. though they never say it, homophobes would like to have sex

with homosexuals.

[ComerPerro]

23. Oh, no. They say it. Believe me. I've heard it. Often. From many.

[Philosoraptor]

27. I've actually heard a few of them actually say it too.

They ALL want to say it, but some pretend decency.

[ComerPerro]

28. Some of them try to play it off like they are joking

[savemefromdumbya]

29. fanatical homophobes are generally closet queens

the more homophobic they are the more gay inside.

[Philosoraptor]

31. Self Loathing Closet Cases....SLCC's

[Seabiscuit]

40. So in a sense, they're suicidal.