It's Official - Bush killing more than Saddam !

[Laura PourMeADrink]

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More than 6,000 corpses found in Iraq in five months
By Kadhem al-Attabi Jun 5, 2006, 12:55 GMT
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An Iraqi man cries next to the bodies of five workers who were killed in Baquba, northeast of Baghdad, on Wednesday 31 May 2006. EPA/ALI HUSSEIN
Baghdad - Every morning as ambulance cars and police vehicles rush to the hospital in Bab al-Mo'adham carrying corpses of unidentified victims, a queue of women, teenagers and elderly men forms in front of the morgue as people search for their relatives, fearing they might be found among the bodies. Usually, one of their family member is lost or kidnapped by gunmen and then turns up after a week or so later as a corpse with gunshot wounds on the body, a further victim of the latest wave of sectarian violence that has swept through Iraq in recent months. Iraq's main morgue had never received that huge number of corpses on a daily basis - not since modern Iraq was established in 1920s.

According to statistics by Iraq's morgues institute, 6,002 corpses were found in the past five months: 1,068 in January, 1,110 in February, 1,294 in March, 1,155 in April and 1,375 in May.

Most of the corpses had gunshot wounds, while others showed marks of burns or electrocution.

Morgues institute officials said that since the institute was established in 1927, it had never received such a huge number of corpses as currently, with the daily average now 35 to 50 per day.

Before the US-led coalition invasion of Iraq and the toppling of Saddam Hussein in 2003, the institute used to receive only seven to 10 corpses per day.

In occupied and conflict-ridden Iraq, the morgues have become the daily destination for at least 100 Iraqis looking for their relatives who were kidnapped by militiamen or who were killed in explosions.

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[acmavm]

1. Not a civil war? Then what conditions must be necessary before

we do declare it so?

[paparush]

2. The Condition for Civil War will be if the Dems take over Congress..

Then, Iraq will PLUNGE INTO CIVIL WAR, TORN TO SHREDS BY CIVIL WAR, RENDERED BY CIVIL WAR, etc...

That is the condition that must exist...there must be someone else to blame this mother of all cluster f#cks on...

[Laura PourMeADrink]

4. That is a VERY interesting point, I hadn't thought of or read !

Let us take back the House, demand pullout and then take the fall for the Bush/Repig cluster. That's why every dem worth his/her salt should be screaming from the mountain tops - that the Bush lies, rubberstamped by the repigs, got us into this mess where we can not stay and we can not leave. Every dem worth his/her salt should immediately put pride aside and announce that they regret the vote to trust Bush with war powers and work day and night to find a solution.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

3. Well, unfortunately, even if they do declare it, nothing will change

we will still be there and people will still die. If we leave, people will die, but at least the lives of the Iraqis WE kill and the lives of the coalition forces will be spared !

[Felinity]

5. At least they have their freedom

All this freedom has gone to their heads a bit, just a little excessive self-expression due to a period of adjustment. I'm sure they'll settle down and quit killing quite so much sometime soon.

What kind of people are these Iraqis? In the face of a common enemy, (us) they turn on each other. I guess it's easier to kill people who are unarmed, and speak the same language. More personal that way.

I can't believe we've emptied our Treasury for this. Remember when we (including the "media") were first arguing about whether the word "quagmire" was an unfairly harsh characterization? I long to be back in a mere quagmire, because the hell that reigns in Iraq now is a quagmire on evil steroids.

One thing all that money has bought for me though--I'm not afraid of terrorists anymore, I'm afraid of our (lack of) government; I'm afraid for our troops who have no real leadership to watch their backs. And I am afraid of (sub)human nature.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

6. Well said but what I fear is the WE are killing more of those

people than Iraqi vs. Iraqi. Haditha may be the tip of the iceberg. Welcome to DU

[Felinity]

8. Thanks, good point. n/t

[enigma000]

7. Not making excuses, but these killings weren't all ordered by Bush

When the Iraqi government, led by Saddam, killed someone it could be attributed to Saddam. When a US solider kills someone that can be attributed to Bush. However, when someone is killed by an Iraqi soldier or an insurgent or a militiaman or a terrorist or by just a criminal the blame belongs to someone else.

If I don't like Sunni Arabs very much, and it is now easier to get away with murder, and I kill one, it would be improper of me to claim Bush made me do it. This was my decision and my actions.

I'm not defending the war or the US administration here, I'm just pointing out people are responsible for their own actions regardless of other people's actions.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

9. Technically, you are right. BUT, in the broader scheme, if

Bush hadn't lied us into this, the situation would nbt be occurring. So, ultimately he is responsible for all deaths there now - or at least since the Kurds found Saddam in hiding and the US took the credit.