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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 10:48 AM
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GOP jumped the "gay" shark.
Washington Out of Step on Marriage Ban

(WARNING: I am going say something positive about corporate America...)

For decades corporate America has been evolving and in doing so it has changed our culture. As with all things, the influence corporations have had on America is both positive and negative. This essay is going to focus on the positive aspect of that corporate influence, specifically in the area of corporate diversity. For the most part the essay will be based on fact that most companies are making the workplace a friendly, open and welcoming environment for all people. Many have made great strides and there is still constant effort being made in this area. The spectre of racism, bigotry and hate are ever present in our society and without safeguards to keep it in check it will raise it's head and damage our society, culture and business. In general the trend is positive and corporations are not making rules to close doors or openly force employees into one bucket or another based on race, creed or sexual orientation, it is a true reflection of humanities ability to live and work in harmony.

Companies in recent years have openly embraced the GLBT community as a viable market segment, recognizing that many employees are gay and in relationships, they openly advertise to the GLBT communities and sponsor highly visible events like Pride Fest in Milwaukee coming up June 9th-11th. Many leading Milwaukee and Wisconsin corporations are sponsors for this popular event.

A few searches on the internet reveals a wealth of information on how companies have made their cultures welcoming beyond mere tolerance but ones that openly celebrate diversity. One can quickly find lists of companies that hold diversity and fairness in the workplace as a major factor influencing the corporate culture. Corporations have made genuine efforts to treat all people fairly and equally. (Note: obvious exceptions exist like some CEO compensation...but in general most corporations try to foster respect, fairness and equality in the workplace. In almost all of the places I have worked, racism, harassment and bigoted behavior is not tolerated.)

It is an appropriate time to compare the private sector with the action of lawmakers in Washington as they begin to debate a controversial same sex marriage ban amendment to the United States Constitution. The amendment defines marriage to being of a one man and one woman and will effectively eliminate public recognition of same sex unions. It appears at first glance to be a fairly simple issue. But under the surface it opens the door for much chaos in society and is akin to state sponsored oppression.

This year there is a state constitutional amendment on the ballot in Wisconsin. The Wisconsin language recognizes marriage as between one woman and one man and it goes further to prevent any same sex or heterosexual union that is legally equal to marriage. Common law partnerships and civil unions would be banned. With many public bodies like the University system in Wisconsin offering domestic partnership benefits to same sex couples it makes one wonder what effect such an amendment would have on these policies.

Many believe the amendment being brought to the floor by Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R) is purely political and designed to further divide and America in a mid-term election year and drive conservative voters to the polls but the result will be to vote for discrimination and set the stage to rollback diversity gains made by minorities out of fear from the conservative right. Clearly these marriage protection proposals are shortsighted and do not really seem to be in step with the direction our society is heading.

The first question that comes to mind is how would a proposal such as the kind being pushed by conservatives in Washington play in corporate America? For the vast majority of corporations in America the answer is, not very well. For decades corporate America has learned the hard lessons of what can happen when racism and hate go unchecked in a work environment. The results were expensive as lawsuits were brought to bear and those unjustly treated were awarded large sums or rulings forced the corporations to change hiring and management practices to eliminate harrasment and discrimination based on race, creed and sexual orientation. The public sector has also opened doors with programs forcing employers to diversify its workforce and offer opportunities to minorities who would otherwise have been passed by. Affirmative action has been under attack of late by the same conservative forces that seek to close other doors and that debate is beyond the scope of this article. But it must be said that in the past affirmative action was one of the tools that drove corporations to adopt diversity programs and policies.

When diversity in the corporation matures a company extends benefits policies to include benefits to partners of employees in a same sex domestic relationship. Clearly this trend is directly at odds with the current, radically conservative political climate in America. Another question that begs to be asked is what kind of corporate support for marriage amendments is there and also support for the politicians that are advancing such divisive policies? Does a corporation support the open discrimination of it's own employees by conservative fundamentalists by continuing to fund campaigns? Is it wise to believe that the marriage bans are innocuous and do not effect the real policy lobbying efforts by corporation in Washington?

With the corporation in the drivers seat in American politics it is unclear how such a divisive issue as marriage bans will play. How will corporate donations to conservative political parties and candidates be effected when the very policies politicians are promoting seek to divide society and will ultimately harm the ability of the corporation to effectively do business? When a government openly discriminates against one group of people it damages the fabric of society and disrupts business and increases conflict in interpersonal communication vital to the success of any business entity.

So how will corporate America stand? Will they stand behind the policies they have made to make America the most welcoming and open of societies or will they fold to a small number of professional politicians who are more keen on pandering to the fanatically religious base in some ideological fantasy quest for a American Christian utopia?

So in essence conservative lawmakers are setting the stage to bite the hand that feeds them. The religious right may provide unflinching support when pandered to but the vast funnel of money for campaigns, junkets and other congressional perks comes from corporate America and that entity is rapidly taking a more open and welcoming stance to GLBT people and in particular, same sex couples.

Is corporate America prepared to roll back the clock with Bill Frist, George W. Bush and the religious right? What is next? Corporate mandatory prayer? Native citizens first?

Is corporate America prepared to deal with the lawsuits that will grow for harassment as America openly proposes a discrimination based amendment and as the rhetoric around gay marriage grows? Just who is creating division? Who is creating barriers? Who is going to support politicians that foster division and oppression? We need to ask our corporate world these questions. Many of the people who attend fundamentalist churches work in corporations and I am sure they have policies the do not tolerate discrimination. The money they earn as employees funds the churches that have pushed for this bad legislation. We are all part of American corporate culture it's diversity and welcoming workplaces are good for business and if it is good for business is good America.(as many conservatives point out)

The culture of corporate greed and personal excess is under scrutiny and has been shown in the case of Enron to not be tolerated. (Even Enron had extensive diversity policies and was considered a great place to work.) With Enron and it's crooked leaders convicted the policies of diversity, openness, honesty and fairness will prevail again in American corporate culture. The gay marriage ban and other extreme Republican neo-conservative policies are not in step with our business culture. Even Coors, long considered a conservative corporation provides domestic partnership benefits to employees. Will Coors continue to support policies that will undermine a harmonious workforce and potentially damage profits? If they support the gay marriage ban and it passes that would lead one to conclude that an employer is no longer required to provide benefits for domestic partnerships because they are not recognized as valid and thus there is no responsibility for some employer to provide these benefits. But who would want to work for such a place?

Will Bill Frist and the rest of congress seek to deny congressional pension benefits to Barney Frank or Tammy Baldwin's domestic partners?

To deny a couple the right to legally marry also carries the ability to deny benefits of any kind because the partnership is not "recognized". This is how out of step with America these marriage protection amendments are and why they will result in a backlash.


Watch the corporate donations for the hardline GOP dry up this year. It is a backlash the narrow focused politicians cannot see coming. The GOP is playing the "gay" card and they have played it poorly. America will respond and do what we ultimately always do...choose the side of fairness and liberty of oppression.

Right now, decision makers at the top of America's corporations should be looking into taking a stance because this issue ultimately will effect how we wish to treat one another and that becomes part of corporate policies and that is part of the fabric of our society. Just who is weaving this fabric? The Religious right and a few self-serving powerful politicians or the collective direction our society is taking?

Supporting marriage bans for same sex couple is to support denying benefits to domestic partnerships and to openly discriminate.

The GOP just jumped the shark...and it was a gay shark.


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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 11:01 AM
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1. We can always hope but I am not convinced we are there yet. If the
social conservatives stay home in large numbers in November then I will be convinced.
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 11:06 AM
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2. important to frame this ban around what really happens in life...
We are not about openly denying people rights others have already.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 11:11 AM
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4. this is not a big issue with the social conservatives
it is a big issue with the religious right wing of the republican party. social conservatives reject the idea of anyone telling them what they should think or do when it comes to their lives.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 02:02 PM
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5. I think you are confusing social conservatives with libertarians.
Because social conservatives most definitely tell people what they should think and how they should run their lives. Social conservatives are anti-abortion and anti-gay and promote "traditional family values", whatever they are. If that is not telling people how to run their lives I don't know what is. Social conservatives ARE the religious right wing of the Republican Party. They are almost one and the same. Libertarians on the other hand believe in allowing people to live their lives as they please as long as they don't hurt anyone else.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 06:05 PM
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14. ya you are right.,..
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MrTriumph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 11:07 AM
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3. Surely as Bush jumped the perch.. uh, he meant bass... the Senate Rs
are discussing a gay marriage amendment to pander to their base.

With all the Rs wrong decisions now bearing a nasty fruit, even Rs are not willing to settle for egregious pandering.
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Lib Grrrrl Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 02:51 PM
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6. Yeah? How About Transgender People??
I guess WE don't count, do we?

I am so sick and tired of transgender being IGNORED all the time!!
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PurpleChez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 04:04 PM
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12. Hey, Lib Grrrl...
I don't mean to reopen old wounds, but it looks like we're back in territory similar to our "Rick Santorum audience in drag" brouhaha of some weeks back. No one said transgenedered people "don't count," and as another poster already pointed out, they were not ignored (being the T in GLBT). I believe your cause is quite just, but again I see you attacking people who, I think, are on your side. At the risk of sparking another net-feud I worry that you see everybody who doesn't support your specific issues in your specific language as an enemy. And I know there ARE enemies out there. Ab-so-lutely. But I think we've all got too many real enemies as it is to create more.
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Lib Grrrrl Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 09:30 PM
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16. Yeah? Well, Then WHY Is The "T" ALWAYS LAST!?!?!?
I'm sick and damn tired of being on the god damned back of the fucking civil rights bus, okay? sick and fucking tired of being unemployed for a year and no one gives a shit! i'm just plain sick and fucking tired of getting shit on by this world, and I want it to get better now, or just fucking end it for me. Because I can't take living like this anymore.
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PurpleChez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 02:17 PM
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21. You WANT to be angry. I'm sorry, but I just can't empathize with you...
Edited on Tue Jun-06-06 02:18 PM by PurpleChez
and I really wish that I could. Like I said, I support your cause with all my heart and all my soul, but if you're going to go postal over the order of the letters in an acronym I don't think there's anything else I can say. Based on both life experiences and professional experiences, when I hear someone say "I can't take living like this anymore" I really, sincerely, want to open myself to that individual and help them make a change, but I have repeatedly seen you reject the voices of support (and emphatically so) because their words did not precisely address your specific concerns. There is already precious little tolerance in the world -- why imagine hate where there is none? I really, really want it to get better too -- for you, for me, for everybody -- and I sincerely hope the time will come when you can embrace the support that is already around you.
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Lib Grrrrl Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 03:52 PM
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22. It's NOT The Order Of The Letters, Dang It!!
IT IS THE FACT THAT WE ARE ALWAYS THE LAST CONSIDERED TO GET OUR RIGHTS!!

Time and again, in civil rights legislation, WE are used as the sacrifical lamb on the altar of GAY RIGHTS..."Oh, Mr. Legislator, we'll sell the queens down the river if you'll agree to give us OUR rights!!" It's been that way for TEN YEARS with HRC!! Why do you think ENDA is non-transgender-inclusive?!!?

THAT is what I mean about the "T" ALWAYS BEING LAST!!!

NOW do you get it?

I'm tired of all the support for GAYS...and then the GAYS turn around and stab us in the back to advance their own political agenda, and their own rights...by selling US down the river...and I am pissed!
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 03:02 PM
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7. The "T" in GLBT.....
Edited on Mon Jun-05-06 03:03 PM by LeftHander
gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender...

The corporate world also has made advances in accepting Transgender people....some more than others.

How the repukes classify transgender in their marriage amendment also illustrates the lack of knowlege and vision in their stupid legislation. If they really wanted it to be something meaningful it would read marriage is defined as a legal union between two people.

I'm good with that....
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Bretttido Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 03:17 PM
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9. Very thought provoking
The idea of Corporate America being a major player in social policies is very thought provoking.

Whatever the final result is in November, this WILL bite the Republicans in the ass eventually. Americans will continue to view gays more progressively till eventually Republicans will say, "What? I didn't support that ammendment, that was some other guy... I thought Yay meant 'Yay for Gays'."
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Lib Grrrrl Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 09:32 PM
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17. The Corporate World - HASN'T DONE SHIT For T People!!
If they had...they why am I STILL unemployed after a fucking year?!!?

Why are SEVENTY FUCKING PERCENT of my people un and or under-employed?

Why are most of my people LUCKY to get a job asking ass holes if they want fucking fries?
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 07:52 AM
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19. some progress but a long way to go....
But to pat state that all are bad is not correct. I know t-people who are very comfortably employed in large corporations and are in positions that they excel at. Some have had it rough and appreciate having an understanding employer.

I understand the frustration...hang in there and try to stay positive and that will open doors...society still has a long way to go...

But lots of people are on your side.

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Lib Grrrrl Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 12:47 PM
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20. Lots Of People On My Side? Sure Doesn't FEEL That Way!! n/t
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987654321 Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 03:05 PM
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8. I don't buy all of it!
Though there may be a few corporations that have embraced diversity, by and large most have not. Most corporations don't give a shit about gay rights, minority rights, or any human rights for that matter. That is, except their right to make money. Just because a corporation begins marketing to, or sponsoring an event for a certain segment of society doesn't mean they give a damn about them. It just means they know they can make some money, and that is, after all, their bottom line.

I doubt you are going to hear American corporations weighing in on the current anti-gay legislation. It is rare to hear any corporation taking a position on any social issue unless it effects their bottom line, save for a few smaller ones. Though I celebrate the great strides in the acceptance of the GLBT community through most of our country, I'm not ready to give credit to the corporations for helping in this struggle.



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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 03:21 PM
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10. Disagree......
The list of corporations that have rules barring discrimination and harrasment of GLBT people is long indeed...and that behavior is NOT tolerated. In nearly every corproation I have worked in has had specific language in employee handbooks and in corporate diversity training programs that address GLBT issues in the workplace.

Yes people still are people...but corporations are NOT people but need people to function and the trend is to be more inclusive not exclusive.

Yes there are huge glaring exceptions.....Halliburton, WalMart, and maybe your "Good Old Boy" chicken processing plant in Alabama or junk food maker run by a right wing Christian nutjob comes to mind...and a vast number of others that are taking advantage of people because they have something that is needed for profit. But for many many others they do care and try to do the right thing.

For those that still have yet to adopt welcoming and anti-harrasment policies they will eventually get a law-suit that will have them singing a different tune very fast...

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PurpleChez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 03:48 PM
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11. Excellent piece, even when skimmed
I'll have to read it in depth when I get home. I liked your warning, and loved your "gay shark" conclusion. That would make a great cartoon spokesman.
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 04:08 PM
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13. Corporations will only do whats good for their stockholders.
Its all they have to worry about. They could care less about this issue. If the issue helps enrich the stockholders, theyll support it.
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DirtyDawg Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 09:08 PM
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15. I was thinking just this very....
...thing today. That these repigs have gone to the well just once too often on this issue. And further that the demos may, at last, take the correct position against their obvious, lame-ass effort. Of course it will all depend on MSM also 'gettin it' but I pray that this is indeed the 'last throes' of the worst ever.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 10:20 PM
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18. FEderal Marriage Amendment = FEMA, heck of a good job, Shrubbie
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theshark Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 05:40 PM
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23. I AM the Gay Shark
I think the author missed the shark completely. And in fact
“jumped the shark” when he said; “America will respond and do
what we ultimately always do...choose the side of fairness and
liberty of oppression.”  YEAH RIGHT, we have such a rich
tradition of that!! Ask any true “Native American”,
(interesting how that terminology has changed) and they just
might have something to say about our “American” compassion,
not to mention all the other obvious choices (and a few we are
planning on building a huge fence to keep out of our “Native
American” neighborhoods). 

The truth is “Corporate America” could care less about the
“rights” of gay people, oh sorry LGBT “community” i.e. gays,
kinda gays, and really straight yet gay, sort of’s (I always
think I am going to see a sign, entering “gay community in 5
miles). It was only when some really “smart” marketing or
salesperson pointed out to some lame brain corporate head
honcho idiot, that the pottery barn loving, retro urban cool
seeking, not having to take off time for the kids, big pile of
money, desperately seeking approval and therefore intensely
brand loyal, disposable income of somewhere between 10 and 15%
populous homos, did all of a sudden they think hey yeah, lets
be gay friendly!! CHA CHING

Of course they will take our money…all day long…. that is what
it is all about after all! We can count on a smile and a
impassioned speech on how “diverse” they are, (well as long we
don’t “act” like a LGBT at work that is) and watch gayly by as
they grin all the way to their bank, where they will then
deposit said gayly extracted funds into the very accounts they
will then use to fund the pockets of the very non homo (well
that’s what they say, but sometimes thou protest to much)
“real American” assholes who will then payoff legislators to
make damn sure we have no REAL rights and keep us in our very
well appointed “place”. Hmmmm reminds me of cotton and
plantations!! 

YEAH ME, I am so Lucky!! Thank you Corporate America for
finding a nice way to screw me, and still giving me a warm
smile and a hearty “Thanks, come again!” (listen and you can
hear the sound of sharks swimming by the cash registers.. cha
ching.. cha ching).





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