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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 09:57 PM
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Bush promoting ban on gay marriage
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060602/ts_nm/rights_gay_bush_dc

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush will promote a constitutional ban on gay marriage on the eve of a Senate vote next week, weighing in on an issue that could rally his wavering conservative base in an election year.


Though the proposed constitutional amendment against same-sex marriage stands little chance of passing, it is one of several hot-button causes Republicans are championing to appeal to right-wing voters ahead of November's congressional ballot.

Bush planned to use his weekly radio address on Saturday and a White House speech on Monday to push for the amendment that would allow states to recognize only marriages between men and women, administration officials said on Friday.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 10:00 PM
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1. This is the best KKKarl could come up with? n/t
MKJ
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 10:01 PM
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2. Apparantly there is nothing else more important than to
get on the television and push this marriage ban...

The fallout from Haditha has probably turned those few countries that supported this administration against them....the US military is being ruined and destroyed by daily horrific grind of this unnecessary war...

Yet, he can only attack....and listen carefully...he can only attack
"American, tax paying citizens"!! This is what the Democrats should be saying.....
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 10:03 PM
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3. Ah yea. This od-so-important issue. Must protect Amerikkka from the "gays.
Lewis Black has a great rant about this on his Carnagie Hall CD. He goes off on how the little g-o-piggies like "in-sanatorium" say that gay people are a threat to the American people. Black tells of a small group of Gay Banditios who travel across the country, breaking into the homes of middle-American familes... and fuck each other right in front of the children. Oh, what about the children.

You have got to buy the CD when you get a chance. It was worth the money!

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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 10:10 PM
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4. Let's summon Karma
Dems should take every oportunity, when asked to comment on this hateful crap from the gop, to whip out pics of Phelps and his inbred clan as they protest GI's funerals, "See, this is what you get when those in leadership roles promote this kind of hateful, divisive, gay-bashing". Yep, that would sour many sheep from falling for this shit again.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 10:21 PM
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5. and how many of you have contacted your reps
to tell them to vote against this?????

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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 10:29 PM
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6. Are Americans stupid enough to fall for this shit again?
The first thing that came to my mind was that they're just rolling this out for election season and they're not really going to go for a ban come November. Either way, it is disgusting and morally debased. I pray God Americans don't fall for this bullshit again! Once again -- two members of the same sex getting married is not what has this nation in a state of jeopardy. It's too many gosh dammed Republicans in the Congress and too much Bush in the White House!

:mad:
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 10:31 PM
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7. Not again!!!
He need to come up something new... this is really getting old!:boring: :boring: :boring:
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 12:45 AM
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8. Good grief. How typical.
...more to the point, how many true believers fall for all these promises ("end to abortion! no gay marriage!") that he has been promising since he started, what - six years ago? Yet he has completely FAILED to deliver any of them, even with a Republican House and Senate swearing to their evangelical creds? C'mon, believers - just think for a minute!

The reason I say this: all the Christian voters who mobilized to elect him in 2004 (not all Christians, for the record) actually think he cares about their agenda. I hope at this point that they understand he only cares about it WHEN EVERYTHING ELSE FAILS.

Wow. This just amazes me that folks do not see through this sham. It's about corporate money, power, and, well - that's about it.

P.S. Sorry for the uppercase emphasis, but I sure think it's warranted here...
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 12:54 AM
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9. Whatever.
Once people are prodded with things they personally give a damn about is when they'll respond.

And even then I still have my doubts. After all, that sale at Kohl's is really really sweet, don'cha'know.

Additionally, and sadly, the way my fellow gays have treated me, let Bush do what he wants. If my peers want my support, they're going to have to earn it back.
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 03:43 AM
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10. Does this mean Miss Cheerleader himself is gonna have to
get divorced?

You can tell Republicans have no respect for the United States Constitution - they constantly want to amend it for every little petty, nasty, evil, insurance to provide them with special rights.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 04:55 AM
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11. tidbits to the religious radicals
that there are more important and pressing issues to deal with goes without saying...

from various articles - the chances of this being passed is ZERO - the votes aren't there. So why would the REPUBLICAN Congress and bush waste their time on this? Because they are losing their religious zealot base support - and that means it's time to throw them a tidbit.

I caught a brief segment on CNN yesterday - Situation Room - the spokesperson for some religious right group was very angry. Not because the issue of gay marriage was being brought up in congress - but rather he saw this as a bone being tossed to his/similar groups in order to prop up the base and get them to shut up.

It's a similar ploy regarding gas prices by offering the $100 to sit down and shut up.

Gay Marriage Amendment Getting a Presidential Push
Conservatives who think Bush has buried the issue denounce the planned event as a ruse.
By Maura Reynolds and Janet Hook
Times Staff Writers | June 3, 2006
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-gay3jun03,0,3806086,print.story?coll=la-home-headlines



WASHINGTON — The campaign against gay marriage is scheduled to get the full White House treatment on Monday — words from President Bush in front of assembled VIPs and a bank of television cameras.

Such a carefully staged production aims to confer the grandeur of the office on the push for a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage. But even before administration officials announced the event, some invitees denounced it as a sham.

"I'm going to go and hear what he says, but we already know it is a ruse," said Joe Glover, president of the Family Policy Network, which opposes gay marriage. "We're not buying it. We're going to go and watch the dog-and-pony show, it's too little, too late."


---snip---

Supporters acknowledge they have little hope of reaching the two-thirds threshold — 67 votes — the measure would need to pass in the 100-member Senate. They probably won't get the 60 votes needed to shut off debate and force an up-or-down vote on the proposal.

---snip---

Democrats say the reason for the push is to rally conservative activists in advance of this year's congressional elections.

"Our country faces great challenges: record high gas prices, skyrocketing healthcare costs and an intractable war in Iraq," Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said. "Yet instead of addressing these issues, Sen. Frist has chosen to put the politics of division ahead of real progress by pushing for a debate on a divisive amendment that will write discrimination into the Constitution."

But if pleasing a key element of the Republican Party is the aim, the effort doesn't appear to be working.

"Social conservatives are disappointed that there hasn't been more action on the issues that were highlighted in the 2004 election," said Gary Glenn, head of the American Family Assn. of Michigan.

He added: "Increasingly, social conservatives expect real action, not just politically timed attempts to motivate and organize the base."



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