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Hailtothechimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 08:32 PM
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The only questions are WHERE and WHEN it will happen.
Edited on Fri Jun-02-06 08:35 PM by Hailtothechimp
Bush needs another terrorist attack to happen. If things remain as they are or continue to worsen between now and November, at least one house of Congress will go to the Dems. And the whole enterprise will be in trouble if that happens.

The ONLY thing that can reverse this is another attack. It will cause the old "rally round the president" effect that will have people scared out of their wits at the prospect of undercutting the Great Protector image that the Republicans like to portray. It's all an act, or else the August 6 PDB would not have been ignored like it was. But I digress.

My guess is LIHOP or MIHOP (the sequel) will be upon us soon. I hate to suggest it, because many of my countrymen (and possibly me or someone I love) will have to pay with their lives. If election day comes and goes without an incident, please repost this and tell me my crystal ball is on the fritz. I hope this is what happens.

I don't think anything will happen until after July 4th. The American masses will be allowed, and even encouraged, to travel, eat, spend, drive, and, above all else, spend even more. But then, just as 9/11 was a week after Labor Day, so too will the 4th be followed by another attack. That leaves 4 months, during which time martial law will be imposed, a stiffer Patriot Act will be rushed through a dazed (and fearful of bucking the president in "wartime")Congress, the press will be forced into submission, and the assorted CIA leak/NSA/military massacre stories will be swept under the rug. And throw in another tax cut while you're at it. Can't have too many of those.

So to get the ball rolling, I'm going to say Tuesday, July 11 will be the date. A work day, so everyone in the rest of the country will go home and spend the rest of the day in complete fear, just like on 9/11. 7/11 will be more than just a convenience store when this is over.

The question of where is an interesting one. I think New York, beyond it's size and prominence (and Democratic-voting populace) has a certain junior senator who will be forced to make a very hard choice. Either a) she goes along (again) with the president and the conservatives who have now set their traps for her, or b) she criticizes his response (a la what happened after Katrina) and loses the crazy righties she has been trying to court over the years. She can't win either way, which is exactly why New York is the perfect target.

So there you have it. July 11, New York City. Anybody want to dispute this or offer another suggestion?

I sure hope I'm wrong about this.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 08:34 PM
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1. I predict Bush will attack Iran on June 6. 2006 (6/6/06) n/t
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 08:36 PM
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5. My dad's birthday. n/t
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heartofthesiskiyou Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 09:44 PM
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10. I said three months ago June July or August
My bet is Iran isn't going to roll over....

I'm kicking out June now as he's got to continue to lay the cover that took longer then the month or so since it began, than I originally thought. He's at least four weeks away from the couple weeks he's going to give Iran to not shut down and a couple weeks to appear to push the UN and this is the fastest case scenario. That could easily run over weeks. I say he (see Rove /Cheney) won't do it in October so dems can't scream October surprise and I'm throwing in September on that pile that I think Rove would call for just to be extra safe from an October surprise label. Conclusion: July or August, can't narrow it any more than that.

Not giving much weight to a terrorist attack as I think OBL is hoping for the congress to go dem and he knows the ins and outs of US politics or has those advising him that do. I don't by the "we attacked ourselves" tin foil.

July 24-26th looks like best odds for Nevada purposes
Once the balloon goes up, be out of big cities and major US icons. If I was Iran I'd have my agents already in place, wouldn't you. These ain't no Iraqis, these be Shiites. Rove is hoping for the attack, simplifing any stinking hastle to hold elections so that's when marshal law and state of emergency will fly with the sheepl as everyone knows you can't hold an election under martial law.

If they don't do Iran he's history and the neocomms know it. Quite a few would be lucky not to get a jail cell. They won't chance it.
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heartofthesiskiyou Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 09:52 PM
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12. They could never pull it together
in the next 3.5 days. They have to let the cover (see negotiations) look at least a little plausable. I think you playing the 666 card. Neyt
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 08:34 PM
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2. I've been having the same thoughts today
I even started thinking maybe that's why Laura moved out of the WH (if she really did). I know, I know, that's my tinfoil hat talking. I don't really believe that, but I would never put anything past these guys. Or maybe that's why they're giving more money to certain places and taking it away from NY and DC -- they know where the next attack is going to be already.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 08:35 PM
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3. I think if there's another one it'll happen on the west coast.
If another attack happened on New York City, it would send Bush's approval rating plummeting. At 10% or lower. Hell, I think another terrorist attack period would force Bush out of office.
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heartofthesiskiyou Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 09:58 PM
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13. No way.. The sheepl would be all into
save us daddy, save us. The country always rallies around an attack, that's any country not just here.
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PWRinNY Donating Member (456 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 08:35 PM
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4. Jeez I hope you're wrong
I hope they have an inkling that another "terrorist" attack would not rally the People around them, but rather show Americans how PATHETIC this administration is to let it happen TWICE on their watch! It may have worked once, but the old saying, you know, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.
And if the American people couldn't see that a second time around, shame on them. Forever.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 08:36 PM
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6. I think if Bushie goes all MIHOP he will make a huge mistake.
Every anti-constitutional thing he and his thugs have done since 9/11 has been justified as a way of protecting us from Terra. If we are attacked again (either as a Reichstag Fire kind of thing or for real al-Qaeda), what will happen to his claim that he was doing everything to keep us safe?
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 08:43 PM
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7. I don't think he will. Just simple cost vs. benefit; he may not get more
votes anyway, but if he wanted another attack to happen he would do it in the dem term, and early.
Anything of the sort would also take a lot to set up, do they are not going to gamble on one when they could use one early in the dem term to get power again after that term expires.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 08:44 PM
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8. I think the blowback would be enormous this time.
Not that they wouldn't try it anyway.

I was in a fistfight once. The guy who threw the first punch stunned me at first.

When he hit me a second time, adrenaline took over. He lost.

We were young and stupid, and I don't recommend pugilism when it comes to conflict resolution. I was as stunned and scared as anyone on 9/11; after all, it was the biggest psy-op in our time.

But, how many will feel the same way if the same guys who are now telling us that "there's a reason we haven't been hit again" hit us AGAIN?

They won't get the same reaction.

I refuse to let these scumbags scare me a second time.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 08:45 PM
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9. I think it's curious that we haven't had an attack since 9/11...
Edited on Fri Jun-02-06 08:48 PM by TwoSparkles
Obviously, I don't want another attack.

However--many questions are raised--because we haven't had an attack. Supposedly, these bloodthirsty terrorists want to kill Americans. That's all they think about. They're so consumed with hate--that they wait 5 years between attacks?

It's not like these people lack opportunity. Our open border allows anyone to venture into the country. If someone wanted to come into the United States, undetected--they could join the legions of others who do every day. Additionally, I'm guessing--that just like the other hijackers--they could simply fly into the country without notice. Most probably aren't on any watch list. I'm sure there are untold numbers of Al Queda who have not raised any red flags, and could enter the US--no problem.

There are numerous terrorist attacks that could happen--without needing to fly planes into buildings. If they planned multi-pronged, simultaneous attacks on widespread targets--the country would be brought to its knees. I don't sit cowering in the corner, but I do fear this happening. I really wonder why it hasn't happened.

BushCo told us all that these people hate us and want to destroy us. I don't wish this on our country at all, but it begs the question--ok, where are they and why haven't they attacked us.

I don't buy the notion that we've thwarted terrorist attacks--and that's why no attacks have happened, post 9/11. They know how to evade being spied upon...they know not to use email and to avoid overseas calls. So far, the government hasn't produced any smoking gun emails, "Hey, Ajham, do you want to attack Americatomorrow?" If they had detected and prevented a terror attack--for sure BushCo would be touting it 24/7.

Lots of questions...only a few know the answers.
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dobegrrrl Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 09:48 PM
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11. They will just steal the election
like they did in 2000 and 2004 as well as the midterms.
:mad:
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 10:01 PM
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14. And how effed up is that when this option is what we hope will happen...
as opposed to these fascists killing our own countrymen to further their sick agenda?

Of course I don't hope they steal the election. But out of the other evil possibilities these creeps are capable of this is the least violent.

I wonder how many more elections the Democratic Party is going to let the republifascists steal before they do anything about it...

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agincourt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 10:14 PM
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16. I agree with you,
They media will be saying the Repigs are coming back in the polls by late Sept. and Oct. That will help grease the heist.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 10:06 PM
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15. It won't work a second time. It will be just too damn obvious.
People will go ballistic, and NOT about the "terrorists."
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 10:26 PM
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17. One question to my fellow DU'ers
Why is everyone speculating or assuming there will be another attack here on our home soil? We should do everything to prevent this from not happening. Just my opinion.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 10:28 PM
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18. They need troops...a draft, if they attack Iran.
Another 'Pearl Harbor' incident might just give it to them.
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AJ9000 Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 12:21 AM
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21. B/c we've done just about everything we can to ensure there will be
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 12:04 AM
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19. Don't you think that "another Pearl Harbor" would be a bit obvious?
I mean...a lot of Americans are clueless but I don't think that they are that clueless. They got away with it once, would they press their luck?



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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 12:12 AM
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20. Nope. No attack. Diebold will save the day for the Repukes
This Admin can't be seen as having another terrah-ist attack on US soil - it makes them look bad that they didn't prevent it and foils one of their biggest selling points.

Diebold and Sequoia and ES&S are gonna make sure the R's win in November.

Voila! Problem solved. The Rs retain control and no terrorist attack.

If there is ANY kind of "attack" it will be a small one in my prediction: a suicide bomber in Chicago at Navy Pier for example - killing several dozen and scaring the shit out of the populace but nothing grotesque like the WTC.
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