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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 05:35 PM
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Now this is proof
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen

I was one of the people who posted repeatedly that I wanted proof and not fuzzy math, about the elections being stolen. Here is some proof. I don't apologize for taking on fuzzy math when I saw it. And some of the math in this article is indeed still a little fuzzy. But this article did what I suggested back then needed to be done. We needed to see evidence of how the results were skewed and the extent to which it truely favored only Bush. This article is a great start.

Simply relying on supposedly infallible exit polls wasn't going to cut it. This article starts at the exit polls, and with the rationals offered for them being flawed, and works backward. In addition it stats with reports of gross fraud and works forward. Kennedy and whomever helped him did a great job here. One hopes, it can lead to Blackwell being roasted but good.

One final question, why would Cuyahoga (Cleveland) and Lucas (Toledo) counties have GOP election chairs. Cuyahoga didn't have one when I left.
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 05:37 PM
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1. There has been proof everywhere you WANTED to look
Edited on Fri Jun-02-06 05:38 PM by Nimrod2005
Just nobody was interested...Of course except us few nerds.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 05:40 PM
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3. thread after thread
Edited on Fri Jun-02-06 05:40 PM by dsc
I heard about impossible odds and little else. No effort made to discuss or even consider if the polls were wrong due to an error which actually did underreport Bush's vote. There also was proof the machines could be tampered with but not that they had been. Incidently no talk of machine problems were in the first three online pages.

On edit by machine problems I mean the misrecording kind not the lack of machine kind.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 05:39 PM
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2. Thanks for taking an open-minded look at the article.
I know a lot of people have been dubious about "stolen election" allegations, but I think RFK did a great job of documenting his sources and laying it all out clearly.
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RufusEarl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 05:49 PM
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4. Fuzzy math or not, it's a start.
Along with the RFK article in RS, one can only hope this will get the attention of the MSM. I do have a question, about exit polling?

I have been told that exit polling would no longer be conducted in federal elections, i'm not sure if that's fact or rumor, does anyone know anything about this allegation?


Peace!
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 05:51 PM
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5. The press has reportedly decided not to reenter the consortium
they had in 2004. I have no idea what they intend to do instead. I literally can't imagine that there would be no exit polling as the first network to call thing is such a big deal.
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RufusEarl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 06:02 PM
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6. I agree,
but i know thats what i've heard " No exit polling in federal elections" If this is true, we'll lose another means to check voter irregularities in future elections.

Peace!
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feduppuke Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 07:01 PM
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7. I still don't buy it.....
but it was a fascinating and well written article. I started to have a lot of respect for RFK Jr. when he spoke out about the vaccination accelerants and their link to autism.

This article certainly sparked my interest.
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