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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:31 PM
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Mysterious red cells might be aliens Maybe they were
what started life on earth in the first place. I'd love to see the outcome of the research being done on these cells.


http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/06/02/red.rain/index.html


In April, Louis, a solid-state physicist at Mahatma Gandhi University, published a paper in the prestigious peer-reviewed journal Astrophysics and Space Science in which he hypothesizes that the samples -- water taken from the mysterious blood-colored showers that fell sporadically across Louis's home state of Kerala in the summer of 2001 -- contain microbes from outer space.

Specifically, Louis has isolated strange, thick-walled, red-tinted cell-like structures about 10 microns in size. Stranger still, dozens of his experiments suggest that the particles may lack DNA yet still reproduce plentifully, even in water superheated to nearly 600 degrees Fahrenheit . (The known upper limit for life in water is about 250 degrees Fahrenheit .)

So how to explain them? Louis speculates that the particles could be extraterrestrial bacteria adapted to the harsh conditions of space and that the microbes hitched a ride on a comet or meteorite that later broke apart in the upper atmosphere and mixed with rain clouds above India.
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:34 PM
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1. OMG, Tom Cruise was right all along
Just kidding.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:38 PM
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3. Oh, the thought of him pawing
around on that pretty Katie Holmes hurts. What a waste.

Cruise just shows that our mental health system needs some reform.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:42 PM
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5. Why fret about him pawing at his beard?
;)
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:48 PM
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8. ???
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 02:26 PM
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14. Beard is term used to indicate that affectation which lends credibility
and often to dissuade speculation as to one's orientation.

Everything I know I learned from my brother, the South Park fan ;)
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 03:12 PM
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15. Doing a Rock Hudson!
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 06:07 PM
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18. By jove, he's got it!
;)
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 07:20 PM
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22. "My Fair Auntie"? Mr Higgins?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:37 PM
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2. Wow thanks!
I remember reading about the red rain a while back... thanks for posting this!
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:41 PM
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4. For as long as I can remember scientist have tried to find a
terrestrial origin of life. Maybe those dirty snowballs that seeded the earth with water, brought the first life.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:51 PM
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10. this really is interesting
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:43 PM
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6. Thanks and this will be the begining of a cirisis of
faith for some, if this is proven. I will also contend that when we find evidience of SENTIENT life it will be fun
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 02:04 PM
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12. Yeah, what if the red rain was just to seed the planet, and we're
some sort of snack food for ET's who forgot about this particular cheetos farm...
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DixieBlue Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 02:06 PM
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13. You've been living in my nightmares
haven't you?

I used to have all these wild dreams about ET's farming humans.

Maybe it's all the scifi I read as a kid.
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 10:08 PM
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23. It's the "To Serve Man" Twilight Zone ep that did it for me. Also
spending much time on a farm, too.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 06:54 PM
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20. Yeah, I am waiting for the day of "First contact" myself. I am sure they
are around but, if you were them, would have anything to do with us? :shrug:
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:48 PM
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7. "may lack DNA ?" so very difficult to check...
you need a solvent, an acid and a centrifuge. Try dish detergent, vinegar and a mixer. It's enough to extract DNA from easy accessible cells in fish or even internal organs from mammals...

read further

The next significant step, explains University of Sheffield microbiologist Milton Wainwright, who is part of another British team now studying Louis's samples, is to confirm whether the cells truly lack DNA. So far, one preliminary DNA test has come back positive.

"Life as we know it must contain DNA, or it's not life," he says. "But even if this organism proves to be an anomaly, the absence of DNA wouldn't necessarily mean it's extraterrestrial."

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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:52 PM
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11. Even if it is terrestrial, it could be a yet unnamed
organism. That in itself is exciting, but not as exciting as finding proof of interstellar life.

We'll just have to wait and see.
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 05:54 PM
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17. I just state ironically that the astrophyscisist guy should let
molecular biologists do their job first. I they find out that the "thing" is extraterrestrial, then the astrophysicist can speculate on the origins...
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 10:51 PM
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24. We all like life affirming stories. We want it to be.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:50 PM
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9. Red Rum!
Red Rum!

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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 04:43 PM
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16. Is that anything like spiced rum?
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 06:15 PM
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19. Pshaw, silly. Everybody knows there's nothing up there but Angels.
And Jesus... and gran'ma... and God who doesn't want you to touch yourself or have sex before marriage an' stuff.

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giant_robot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 07:08 PM
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21. Finding a strange, unidentified microbe is pretty cool,
but claiming its origin is extraterrestrial is too great a leap without further evidence.
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