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Terran1212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:36 PM
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Noam Chomsky speaking on CSPAN 2 at West Point (From April Speech)
Edited on Mon May-29-06 09:57 PM by Terran1212
You can watch/listen here:

http://www.booktv.org/watch/
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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:39 PM
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1. thanks so much!!! k&r
I just realized, I get 90 channels BUT NO CSPAN 2!!!!

Cable companies SUCK!!!

Go Noam!!!

:kick:
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Terran1212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:42 PM
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2. On another right-wing webboard someone said "maybe someone will snipe him"
Some RWers really believe all military people must be as idiotic as them. West Point people are for the most part very intelligent. I have a friend going there next year, great guy.

And I heard they gave chomsky some kind of memorial or award after his speech.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:43 PM
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4. framed photo of the campus.
right at the end... :)
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:42 PM
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3. back to the top!
kick!
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:43 PM
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5. Thanks.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:45 PM
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6. K&R . Just a suggestion, Terran1212. Now that you're on the Greatest
Edited on Mon May-29-06 09:50 PM by Kurovski
Page, you might want to consider editing your headline to add the time/day so as not to disappoint folks who will later click into the thread and find that the event is over.
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Terran1212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:57 PM
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8. Done, thanks!
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 10:02 PM
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9. I meant more like " Mon. 10:30-1130 EST" so that folks
will know when it's over.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:51 PM
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7. Thanks, listening now.
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Peggy Day Donating Member (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 10:04 PM
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10. watching now
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 10:12 PM
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11. got it - thanks
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 10:29 PM
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12. Fantastic question/answer segment!
Noam gives a ten minute history lesson on Saddam's support by Reagan and Bush Sr.

Very good stuff.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 10:35 PM
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14. I was very impressed with his answers
I'm thinking those kids did some thinking the night after that presentation.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 10:34 PM
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13. That was a very very good dialog!
A very grown up look at such an important issue as preventive war - I was impressed.

The kids asked good questions and even better, Noam had very precise and knowledgable answers.

Those kids were left with a lot to think about.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 11:17 PM
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15. One more thing about preventative war.
When he talked about how our aggression against Iraq was preventative war, he made it clear that if we were to apply that same definition to what is happening right now with respect to Iran, they would have every right to invade the United States. Not that he condones that. But I find it an extremely good argument for using, to combat those who seem to think we can just run around the world and invade. Or for those who don't have a perspective other than a US-centric view of how the world should work.

I'm not sure I stated that in an effective way. I sort of doubt it. His speech is a must see. It's all one needs to defend against the standard array of prowar talking points.
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 11:43 PM
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16. DAMN
I ALWAYS miss Chomsky!
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 04:13 AM
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19. C-Span will eventually put it on its site for viewing.
Most likely. So keep an eye out for it.

Chances are also good it will play again. Check on the C-span book TV thread by Viva_La_Revolution each friday, she'll have it listed there.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1294803
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 02:27 AM
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17. www. westpointgradsagainstthewar. org
http://www.westpointgradsagainstthewar.org/

"We stand appalled by the deceitful behavior of the government of the United States and, in particular, its widely known malefactors. Lying, cheating, stealing, delivering evasive statements and quibbling not only has demeaned these deceivers and the United States of America, but has placed vast numbers of innocent people in deadly peril.
We will not serve the lies."
http://www.westpointgradsagainstthewar.org/ourpurpose_2.htm
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 03:08 AM
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18. Thanks for that link, rman!
:thumbsup:
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 04:17 AM
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20. West Point, now, and then..
http://www.sirnosir.com/the_film/synopsis.html

"In the 1960’s an anti-war movement emerged that altered the course of history. This movement didn’t take place on college campuses, but in barracks and on aircraft carriers. It flourished in army stockades, navy brigs and in the dingy towns that surround military bases. It penetrated elite military colleges like West Point. And it spread throughout the battlefields of Vietnam. It was a movement no one expected, least of all those in it. Hundreds went to prison and thousands into exile. And by 1971 it had, in the words of one colonel, infested the entire armed services. Yet today few people know about the GI movement against the war in Vietnam."
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Terran1212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 07:47 PM
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21. The crowd did seem to like Chomsky a lot
So yes I think the military is probably unfairly stereotyped as far right.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 08:39 PM
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22. Nominated & highly recommended
:kick:
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