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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 09:37 AM Original message |
Poll question: Our free speech dilemma in the heartland |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
1. Fred gave the bush** administration a handy dandy little tool to stifle |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 09:43 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I want to continue to speak out |
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eallen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
3. The defense of civil liberty doesn't await a pure victim. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 09:55 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. I am definitely leaning in that direction |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
5. This must be the exception to the "any club that would have Fred |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 10:07 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Has he ever been to San Francisco? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 10:13 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. He can't possibly be from Kansas. I think the Mothership |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 10:15 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Actually he grew up somewhere in the south |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 10:27 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. HIs unintended consequence is that he's an ambulatory |
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txwhitedove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 07:52 PM Response to Reply #11 |
83. Mississippi has suffered enough... |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 11:13 AM Response to Reply #8 |
26. They are here in Topeka every single day |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 11:49 AM Response to Reply #26 |
38. I hear you Muse |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 01:44 PM Response to Reply #38 |
52. It is hard to know. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 02:14 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. I wish Jeebus would reach down from the sky and pinch off his head! |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 02:31 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Oooh thank you! |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 05:44 PM Response to Reply #54 |
70. As usual, that is awesome! |
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Mz Pip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 02:36 PM Response to Reply #8 |
60. A few years ago |
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xmas74 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 04:02 PM Response to Reply #8 |
65. We should play "Where's Fred?" |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
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Ready4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
7. Personally, I'd check with the church. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 10:11 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. I had thought about that |
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Ready4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 10:40 AM Response to Reply #9 |
18. I hear you. |
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nsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 11:26 AM Response to Reply #9 |
32. Slippery slope arguments should always be used with care. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 11:45 AM Response to Reply #32 |
37. But do we give up our rights to protest permanantly |
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nsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 02:27 PM Response to Reply #37 |
56. It's not about the general right to protest. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 02:49 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. The problem we have though is the way the new law is worded |
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ManiacJoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-30-06 08:57 PM Response to Reply #63 |
90. If it said WHAT you can/cannot protest then |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
12. High moral ground here |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 10:35 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. I like that - nice encouraging words |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
14. Just move a foot or two back from the church! |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 10:36 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. I hadn't thought of that |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 11:10 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Sure! Tape a line, and then stay behind it. |
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Asgaya Dihi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
17. Right is right, and wrong is wrong. |
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kiteinthewind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
19. As much as I am sickened by this pervert, Phelps, we must protect the |
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JHH (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 11:12 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. The rights of families |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 11:17 AM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Phelps does not protest the war |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 11:20 AM Response to Reply #23 |
30. there are no such rights, I'm afraid-- nor should there be.... |
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xmas74 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 12:45 PM Response to Reply #30 |
48. Bingo! |
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xmas74 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 11:37 AM Response to Reply #23 |
34. Phelps is a homophobic SOB. |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 12:44 PM Response to Reply #23 |
47. There is no inherit right for them to be "in peace" |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 11:12 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. I don't think Benson is working on behalf of the ACLU on this one |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
20. I'd recommend challenging the law even if only to benefit Phelps.... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 11:11 AM Original message |
This is like the Nazis marching in Peoria |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
22. Free speech should never be limited. Fight the law. |
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JHH (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 11:15 AM Response to Reply #22 |
27. If you think speech should not be limited |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 11:20 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Study the constitution |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 12:41 PM Response to Reply #27 |
45. If you think that's free speech, then you need to read the Constitution |
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create.peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
25. Fred Red Herring- Must Support Free Speech |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 11:24 AM Response to Reply #25 |
31. Hey Hannah! |
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create.peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 12:19 PM Response to Reply #31 |
42. Our posts crossed each other! re: lawyer |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 01:25 PM Response to Reply #42 |
50. When is the Russell bluesfest? |
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create.peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-30-06 02:39 AM Response to Reply #50 |
88. Nobody gets outa here without singin' the blues (adventures in babysitting |
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create.peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 11:40 AM Response to Reply #25 |
35. If We had been able to stop the war, Phelps wouldn't have venues... |
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xmas74 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
33. You know that I hate Phelps with a white-hot passion. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 11:44 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. I already have my sign for his funeral ready |
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xmas74 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 12:43 PM Response to Reply #36 |
46. Of course. |
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demgurl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
39. I say give Phelps every freedom he wants. |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
40. Do your peace vigils take place while there's a funeral? |
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kiteinthewind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 12:21 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. We are in a shopping district but there are several churches nearby. Don't |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 12:52 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. I'm not sure where i'm going with this.. |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 02:34 PM Response to Reply #49 |
58. what if, just as a thought |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 12:29 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. Well that's the point isn't it |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 01:30 PM Response to Reply #40 |
51. We protest twice a week at 2 different places. |
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kiteinthewind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
41. Some good advice from Bluzmann57 |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
53. While Phelps et al are ghastly excuses for civil libertarians, they |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
55. messy, this democracy stuff, huh? |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
59. Look, if somebody were to just go kick Fred Phelps in the balls... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 02:38 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Phelps would sue |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 06:57 PM Response to Reply #61 |
79. And again, find me a jury that will award him any money |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 07:00 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. It happens all the time |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 07:15 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. As far as I knew... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 07:22 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. He has been disbarred |
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kiteinthewind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 04:48 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. Could you take care of that, Hippo_Tron?!?! |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
62. As Fred Phelps loses his free speech, so do the rest of us. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 02:52 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. An unfortunate but true fact |
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snot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
66. GLAD YOU ASKED |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 04:53 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. Very good point. |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 04:56 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Busholini's Executive Order. |
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snot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-30-06 11:15 PM Response to Reply #69 |
91. WHAT you say shd not be restricted; but |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
71. Free speech is free speech |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 05:51 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Well do we have to be there on the same day as the freepers? |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 06:10 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. LOL |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
72. I Say Leave It Alone. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 06:05 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. And if they change the law to prohibit all protests? |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 06:16 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. I Don't Think They'd Get Away With That. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 06:25 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. This administration is getting away with all kinds of crap |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
77. Free Speech is more important than Phelps. |
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Jeffersons Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
84. The trouble with fighting for human freedom... |
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dalaigh lllama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
85. The terms of that law seem waaaay too broad |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-30-06 01:12 AM Response to Reply #85 |
87. I like the bikers who drown them out |
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Fovea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
86. Freedom is the freedom to say |
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atommom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-30-06 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
89. I agree that this law is far too broad. |
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