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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 07:30 PM Original message |
Southern Baptist leader says deliberate childlessness defies God's will. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
1. he's a complete fuckwit. My five dogs never 'begot' any puppies. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 08:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
28. He is no buffoon. He, and people like him, are FASCISTS. |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
2. Can someone give the Pope this guys number? |
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queenbdem87 (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
3. I guess he talks to God on his cell phone like shrub... |
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EST (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
4. Childlessness, perhaps? |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
5. Please correct the mistake in the title, |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 07:36 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Perhaps I was thinking "childish"...fixed it, thanks. |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 07:43 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Well, I sure do agree |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 07:50 PM Response to Reply #5 |
20. You are very correct. I have only one concern or complaint. |
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susanna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 12:05 AM Response to Reply #5 |
77. The thing that bothers me about strident evangelism... |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 04:13 PM Response to Reply #77 |
85. Reminds me of the old adage that |
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susanna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 10:21 PM Response to Reply #85 |
91. Exactly. |
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peacebird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
6. what is their purpose? Turning back the clock to the mythic family of the |
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lumpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 07:55 PM Response to Reply #6 |
23. The 50s ? |
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PublicWrath (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 08:09 PM Response to Reply #23 |
34. The 50s are pretty famous as a dark age for American women. You must |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 08:26 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Oh, my God yes....Listen to my tale about Elvis. |
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idgiehkt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 08:51 PM Response to Reply #34 |
51. sounds like Betty Friedan has already been forgotten |
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PublicWrath (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 10:49 PM Response to Reply #51 |
64. Thanks for that, it's been decades since I've read it. I think I'll check |
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lumpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 11:57 PM Response to Reply #34 |
75. I wasn't living in the South , |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 04:33 PM Response to Reply #75 |
86. Uh - I'm from Tennessee and the problem wasn't confined here |
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lumpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 12:10 AM Response to Reply #34 |
78. I wasn't a member of the Baptists Church, |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 10:22 PM Response to Reply #23 |
61. Women have NEVER been submissive |
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madmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 11:14 PM Response to Reply #23 |
69. An excellent book on the so called Golden Age of the 50s: |
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murielm99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 03:46 AM Response to Reply #69 |
84. My son gave me that book a few years ago. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 08:06 PM Response to Reply #6 |
29. The 1350s, right? |
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Xeric (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
8. One of the things about many religions |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 08:31 PM Response to Reply #8 |
45. There's one problem in their plan, though .. |
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DesEtoiles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
9. So if every Chinese couple had 4 or more children.. |
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Flubadubya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
10. How is it these people always KNOW God's will? |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 07:45 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. As a Christian, I can tell you that |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
11. Thank you for your opinion, Mr. Mohler |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 07:47 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. Please do NOT think that all Christians |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 08:07 PM Response to Reply #18 |
32. Nah, just the loud ones... |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
12. Mad ... |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 07:57 PM Response to Reply #12 |
24. They walk away for a few years, then they come back all |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 08:27 PM Response to Reply #24 |
41. What a story! |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 08:02 PM Response to Reply #12 |
26. That's a great story. You have a great family. |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 08:25 PM Response to Reply #26 |
38. Thanks for the kind words. I've read about that story (the takeover). |
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kevinbgoode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
14. Why support this ridiculous cult? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 07:53 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. This is not a "cult." This church nearly owns the South, I fear. |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 08:42 PM Response to Reply #22 |
47. You are quite correct. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 09:26 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. I listened to State of Belief last week....it was scary. |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 11:09 PM Response to Reply #53 |
66. I really liked the program last week. |
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TlalocW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
16. Speaking as a childfree person with a vasectomy |
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Carla in Ca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 08:30 PM Response to Reply #16 |
44. Same here, TlalocW |
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TlalocW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 10:30 PM Response to Reply #44 |
63. I don't know if it's changed that much |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 11:12 PM Response to Reply #16 |
68. i'm childfree as well |
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Carla in Ca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 07:06 PM Response to Reply #68 |
90. I love being a dog mom |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
17. ginbarn sez... |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
19. DH wonders which Chapter and Verse that's in |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
21. Deleted message |
Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
25. God, these people are psychotic. |
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lumpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 12:35 AM Response to Reply #25 |
79. It is worrisome since GWB appears |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
27. How could it even be possible to defy the will of an omnipotent deity? |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
30. Ah bullshit |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
31. I see a meat cleaver in Rev. Mohler's future |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 08:44 PM Response to Reply #31 |
48. That's the irony. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
33. A map of the Baptist churches in the South....other churches and areas. |
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lumpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 12:38 AM Response to Reply #33 |
80. Thanks for the link. |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
35. The editors are saying the second article was originally |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 08:27 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Let me check. Mohler has one up just this month about it...here it is. |
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Golden Raisin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
36. How do you spell/pronounce "Taliban" in Southern Baptist-ese? |
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Tanuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
37. Jesus was childless |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 01:09 AM Response to Reply #37 |
82. So now the true believers are raising hell |
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Spangle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
42. RACISM.... that is really what that is all about |
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flaminbats (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 09:51 PM Response to Reply #42 |
58. terrified the 21st century might make them obsolete? |
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Spangle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 10:19 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. LOL! I agree |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
43. I don't even know where to begin with this nonsense |
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bobbieinok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
46. chronology of the RW take-over of the SoBaptists |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 08:54 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. This is an excellent summary of the takeover effort. |
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bobbieinok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 11:30 PM Response to Reply #52 |
72. talk2action is an excellent source for monitoring dominionism |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 09:30 PM Response to Reply #46 |
54. Thanks for that summary. |
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bobbieinok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 11:51 PM Response to Reply #46 |
74. 'priesthood of all believers' was MAJOR SoBapt principle in 40s + 50s |
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YellowRubberDuckie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
49. So, I should try for a baby....Even though... |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
50. Too bad this wasn't something really serious... |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
55. They Obviously Want To Ban Birth Control, But This Goes Much Further |
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Bouncy Ball (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
56. Besides everything else that has already been said |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
57. What's next for the Baptists? Accept the Papacy? |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
59. It Feels Good, Knowing that My Existemce Threatens Him |
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Fox Mulder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
62. I'm going to hell then. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
65. Men trying to control women. Been there. Seen that. |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
67. Nothin' but a bunch of control freaks...their way or the highway. |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
70. They're right. Other things that defy the will of god: |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
71. The American Taliban |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-28-06 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
73. 6.5 billion "miracles" is more than enough |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 12:04 AM Response to Original message |
76. The sad commentary on how a local church split. |
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mykpart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 12:45 AM Response to Original message |
81. My husband and I married long after |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 02:45 AM Response to Original message |
83. Funny |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
87. Thanks, madfloridian. |
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haele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
88. Deliberate Childishness is against any deity's will |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-29-06 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
89. Breed more white Republicans! |
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