Yesterday my wife went to lunch with a freeper...

[Dawgs]

Freeper: Who did you vote for? I know, innappropriate.

My wife(who's not into politics): John Kerry

Freeper: Why? (thinking my wife would say, 'because my husband tells me who to vote for')

My wife: Because I think George Bush is stupid.

Freeper (obviously surprised at this answer): Well George Bush went to Yale, he's obviously smarter than you or me.

:wtf: :wow: :crazy:

The freeper also said, 'They say as you get older the more Republican you become'.

[Tesla]

1. "Hope I Die Before I Get THAT Old"

[Javaman]

27. I think it's someplace in the 1000's..n/t

[hippiechick]

2. Yale ? On the rich white boy's affirmative action plan, yeah.

But sure as hell not because he was a genius!! :freak:

[Lydia Leftcoast]

14. As one who went to Yale for graduate school (on my own merits, thank you)

I remember the controversy that erupted when the university proposed reducing the number of "legacy" admissions to 20%.

I TA'd undergraduates while I was there. While some of them were so brilliant and accomplished that they seemed superhuman (Double major plus Olympic athlete plus director of a music ensemble? Brilliant in science, music, and languages and now a respected scientist? Devising computer program for translation of Maya hieroglyphs?), others were okay but nothing special.

Furthermore, in one case, the professor in charge of the class I was TA'ing upped the grade of a completely flaky student to whom I had given a "C." "She's from a prominent family," he said.

Back when I lived in an apartment full of Republican activists, I used to enjoy telling them these stories.

[proud2BlibKansan]

17. A couple kids from my high school went to Yale on legacy admissions

Neither lasted. No surprise. They were twits in high school. Rich, but still twits.

[mark11727]

33. "She's from a prominent family..."

BUT SHE'S STILL STOOPID!

[bloom]

61. "She's from a prominent family," he said.

I wonder what the consequences are to professors who don't go along....

[efhmc]

3. The older smart people get, the more liberal they become.

[FreedomAngel82]

51. That's what happened with me

A long time ago I used to want to be republican but than I just grew up and here came along Al Gore and Bill Clinton. I really liked them both and than came along 2004 and I was able to vote. I was disappointed Gore "lost" and was starting to like George I even admit, but than I became able to vote nd did all sorts of research and the more I learned the less I liked George. So a big thanks goes out to Georgie for turning me into a liberal. Plus, my views on things have changed as well. :)

[efhmc]

66. You support my theory. But, of course, you are smart.

[SammyWinstonJack]

4. No, he obviously has a family with lots of money and clout. nt

[xchrom]

5. even yale can make a mistake.

[ProfessorGAC]

22. There Was No Mistake

Family had BIG money. No mistakes were made, at all. That doesn't mean Silverspoon deserved to be there, but it was not a mistake.
The Professor

[Cassandra]

37. Even "deserved" is a matter of interpretation.

Yale thought he "deserved" to be there because they expected even more money from the Bush family than they had already received. The Bushies figured they'd already paid his way in. There is all sorts of merit; it's not all about grades. (If you can't tell, I'm being a bit snide here).

[ProfessorGAC]

40. I Could Tell (eom)

The Professor

[xchrom]

41. no, i know.

but ya gotta wonder -- now that numbnuts is out and about if they don't regret their liberal attitude regarding big money?

[ProfessorGAC]

46. Probably Not

They got the cash they needed to build another wing on the library or something. They probably figured it wouldn't come back to bite the whole country while Silvespoon pretended he had an education. Once they did have it backlash them, they probably said "Oh well, what are you going to do?"
The Professor

[xchrom]

47. lol -- another wing on the library -- how ironic, no?

[ProfessorGAC]

48. I Hadn't Considered That! Good Catch! (eom)

The Professor

[boobooday]

68. it's the comic book wing

eom

[Spirochete]

69. A right wing, no doubt. n/t

[FreedomAngel82]

52. Didn't his family give tons of money

to help build a gym or something like that? I know they were big contributors to Yale. Or maybe it was Harvard. Whichever one Skull & Bones is at (they're all the same to me too). Plus, I believe a long line of Bush's went to Yale at least since his grandfather Prescott Bush. I'm not sure if Samuel did.

[Fridays Child]

6. This man explained Republican mentality best...

"As people do better, they start voting like Republicans - unless they have too much education and vote Democratic, which proves there can be too much of a good thing." -Karl Rove

[VaYallaDawg]

44. I had never seen that one before - I think it's known as insight!

[Tamyrlin79]

7. Stupid??? How lame.

why use "stupid" when "fascist fucktard" fits so perfectly, and is alliterative to boot?

[XNASA]

8. He went to Yale because of their Legacy program.

In 2004, he came out against such programs.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/06/bush.legacy/

He applied the the UT Law School after graduating from Yale and was not accepted. Still too dumb, even after going to Yale.

[SharonAnn]

54. He was not only not accepted, but he tried to get family and

friends to pressure the Dean to accept him. The Dean wrote back that he may have a furture somewhere, "but not at this school".

Seems that this is one time his cronyism didn't work.

BTW, this may explain his dislike of some lawyers. Especially those who disagree with him.

[Tarc]

9. sounds like someone is off their meds

[No Exit]

15. What an original remark.

And... so meaningful!

[Tarc]

63. As if yours added anything meaningful?

I was referring to the freeper, btw.

[TiredTexan]

10. Bush's application to UT Law School was denied

but he was accepted into Harvard Business School. Do ya think it might have something to do with legacy?

[No Exit]

19. Really? That's too bad.

Maybe if he'd been allowed into law school, he might've had that class they teach called "constitutional law".

Naw... he'd have flunked out long before he got to it...

[KansDem]

32. That's true. One would think Bush would have a better time in Texas...

...considering the Bush family name and wealth. His grandpa was a US senator and his dad a former congressman, plus with their business holdings and contacts in Texas--one would think Bush Jr would have an easier time getting into a Texas university (as a legacy) than Harvard.

[rsdsharp]

38. The Bush (and Wilson) family fame and wealth

were largely created in New England. The family vacation home remains in Maine. GHWB's official "residence" during his Presidency and Vice- Presidency was a hotel room in Houston. Prescott Bush (W's grandfather) was a senator from Connecticut, not Texas. His father, although briefly a Texas congressman, graduated from Yale. I believe his grandfather did as well. I would hazard a guess that any donations to schools were going to Yale, and/or other Ivy League institutions. No reason for Texas school to want the Shrub. And for all GW's blather about being a Texan, it was Jeb who went to college in the state.

[lastliberalintexas]

43. You're right- I forgot about Jeb going to UT

[Maestro]

59. Thank you, thank you.

* is not Texan. As a Texan, I am sick of hearing this!

[kath]

64. yeah, Poppy had a sham "residence" in a TX hotel so he could avoid paying

state income tax. Asshole.

Doonesbury had a great strip about this years back.

[lastliberalintexas]

42. At that time the Bush family name meant nothing

in Texas. HIS FAMILY IS ONE OF CONNECTICUT YANKEE BLUEBLOODS VIA OHIO.

Yes, his grandfather was a US Senator- from Connecticut. GW Bush was born in New Haven and attended Andover, Yale and Harvard. He's only used and abused the state of Texas when it was convenient for him, not to develop any real and lasting ties to the place. GHW Bush ran for Senate from Texas and lost. GW Bush lost his race for Congress in West Texas. It took a questionable election in which polls showed Ann Richards leading up to election day to even put him in his first elected office in this state.

Bush was not a legacy for any school in Texas since no one in his family had attended a Texas university until Jenna Bush, and even then Barbara attended Yale. The Bush family has no longstanding ties to Texas, and have only forged any loose connections over the last few decades- again, only for their convenience (ie, tax avoidance and the like).

[SharonAnn]

55. He was not only not accepted, but he tried to get family and

friends to pressure the Dean to accept him. The Dean wrote back that he may have a future somewhere, "but not at this school".

Seems that this is one time his cronyism didn't work.

BTW, this may explain his dislike of some lawyers. Especially those who disagree with him.

[tenshi816]

58. I think he was accepted into Harvard Business School

because Poppy Bush was Ambassador to the UN at the time and he used his influence to get Junior admitted.

GWB at Yale as a legacy, definitely. Everybody knows that Dubya's grandfather Prescott Bush went to Yale (as did Poppy), but Prescott's father Samuel Bush was also a Yale graduate, as were various other uncles and cousins. I guess if you have Bush as a surname, you're in.

[NoPasaran]

11. Like Bush, Kerry also went to Yale.

And Kerry's taller: There's your tiebreaker.

[TheBaldyMan]

16. Another thing that proves Kerry won in 2004

Since Ford/Carter in every presidential contest the taller candidate always won.
(edited for spelling)

[WinkyDink]

26. I don't think that was true with McGovern.

[TheBaldyMan]

31. I stand corrected and will emend my post

but it makes you think ... hmm.

[mark11727]

34. Too bad for me then, I'm just a little fella...

...but big in spirit.

* on the other hand, is a little man in every way that counts.

[No Exit]

12. What a stupid ass.

I don't know how your wife could even eat... I'm thinking this person must openly drool, and that's always unappetizing.

Incidentally, the older I've gotten, the LESS "republican" I've become.

A LOT less. As in, none left.

Here in our suburb, where repukes are far and away the majority, we placed a Kerry sign in the front yard. Oh, we had to replace it a couple of times, but each time the bastards stole it, we replaced it within one day. At one point, a teacher from my son's school happened to be driving by and said, "Hey, do you have a spare Kerry sign? Mine got stolen." I went inside and got one for her.

I wanted so badly for our neighbors, whom we know very well, and with whom we are on friendly terms, to ask us about the Kerry sign. I couldn't wait to reduce it to terms even they could understand: "I am voting for Kerry b/c I don't want my sons to be drafted and to die for some rich bastard's profit margin."

Yes, there are many, many, many other reasons to vote for Democrats and to vote against anything even remotely connected with * and the repukes. But that one was foremost in my mind at the time, and that one was the starkest one I could think of to get the point across to these suburban wives who are deliberately and woefully ignorant on the subject of who runs the country.

Guess what. They never said a word about the Kerry sign.

[LiberalEconomist]

13. In response to:

<<Freeper (obviously surprised at this answer): Well George Bush went to Yale, he's obviously smarter than you or me.>>

She should have said: The fact that George Bush was allowed to attend Yale has diminshed the institution's credibility.

[Zambero]

25. And at Yale, the superior art of cheerleading...

...has never been the same since. Wonder if * used a bullhorn whenever he donned the pleated skirt?

[OffWithTheirHeads]

18. Personally, the older I get,

the better I was

[stanwyck]

20. My daughter met her boyfriends' parents yesterday

the bad news? They both voted for Bush. (My daughter is an uber-liberal). The good news? They both say they regret their vote.

I know the new boyfriend was a little apprehensive about how the meeting would go. Apparently, it went well.

[FreedomAngel82]

56. Glad to hear it

:) Now hopefully they'll vote democratic next year.

[Zambero]

21. Increased Dementia = Increasingly Republican?

Not to make light of an unfortunate condition, but perhaps there is an element of truth to what that Freeper said. Like other parts of the human anotomy, the brain needs to be regularly exercised (preferably in conjunction with the truth), or deterioration sets in.

[calico1]

23. My almost 83 year old mother

used to be very Conservative in her views although she always voted Democratic. The older she gets the more Liberal her views are.

The freeper's comment with regard to Bush and Yale (he must be smarter because he went to Yale)is so indicative of the freeper mindset. If a person goes to Yale then that's it. They MUST be smart. Don't question it, don't study what they have done or said. Just assume they MUST be smart 'cause of the Yale degree! This mindset is so aggravating. :banghead: A lot of smart people come out of Yale, but so do a lot of idiots. Ditto for public universities. Its not what you pay, its what you know and what you can learn.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

24. I would have said,

Even Yale has to have its quota of idiots. They are the ones who get in because Dad went to Yale. What was your GPA when you went to University? Were you like me, getting in on a scholarship?

[Marr]

28. You know what's funny?

They'll turn around and argue it's OK that Bush is stupid if you give them a minute or two. They'll bring out the old, "that's why he has expert advisors" or "I like him because he's not an egg head".

I swear they're all programmed the same. I've heard the exact same responses from more Bush loyalists than I can count.

Bush himself admitted to being a C student, and it's clear that he got into Yale because he was a legacy. The man can't string a sentence together. He's not intellectually curious enough to read the damn newspaper. He's an idiot. Worse than an idiot, in fact- he's a proud idiot.

As for that claim that you get more conservative as you get older, it's bullshit. They also say Darwin became a creationist on his deathbed. More mental crutches for the chronically stupid.

[PurpleChez]

29. My parents, although still registered Republicans, actually become

more liberal with each passing year. It's great! They despise * and everything to do with him. They never liked Reagan, but they LOATHE bushco. Every time we visit or talk they update us on the outrages of their freeper friends. They're two of the people who are gonna vote Rick Santorum out of office in ten months.

It's weird: two thirds of the country doesn't particularly like W. I'd say about one third to one half detest the man. And yet, there are still so many people like your wife's lunch guest who think (or who want to make themselves think) that it's still October 2001 and everyone still thinks * is the sign and the seal of the prophets. We certainly run into that around here.

[LWolf]

30. Does pushing 46 count?

The older I get, the more "far left" I become.

On edit, I chalk that up to experience allowing me to see through the bullshit propaganda TPTB thrive on.

[quisp]

35. OMG - The freeper apparently accidentally paraphrased Churchill...

who was actually quite funny.

his aphorism is something like:
If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain.


another good anecdote about him is that he was at a party and a woman came up to and said, "If you were my husband I would poison your tea." To which he replied, "If you were my wife, Madam, I would drink it!"

another one is that he was at a party and a woman said,"Sir, you are drunk!" "And you are ugly, but in the morning I will be sober" he replied.

heheh

[KyuzoGator]

36. Tell your Freeper friend that he was rejected by U Texas law school.

He was a Yale legacy who came from a wealthy family. There are plenty of rich idiots in the Ivy League schools right now.

[Initech]

39. Tell your freeper friend that not everyone who gets into Yale is smart

And use this Simpsons quote:

Female interviewer: He spelled Yale with a 6.

Male interviewer: He also made fun of my weight, told me that my motto should be "Semper Fudge", then he said to "relax".

Female interviewer: Now ordinarily, low test scores would require some kind of donation like new football uniforms. But in the case of your son's, an international airport.

Burns: Pish posh, I'm not made of airports!

Female interviewer: Yale COULD use an international airport!

[FlaGranny]

45. I think that the

"as you get older the more Republican you become" is incorrect. It should be "as you accumulate more wealth and get more and more selfish, the more Republican you become," and also, "the more easily led you are the more susceptible you are to brainwashing."

[FreedomAngel82]

57. I believe it was

Harry Truman who said: live republican vote democratic.

[FreedomAngel82]

49. So did she say so did John Kerry?

So if Bush is so smart why didn't he get into the Texas law school? (I can't recall the name but it's like Boston's)

[edbermac]

50. Well Mr Freeper, Ted Kennedy went to Harvard...

So he must be a fuckin' genius, right?

[Nutmegger]

53. Kerry went to Yale too

And I don't think he coasted unlike the Shrub.

[Maestro]

60. Wasn't there a professor either from Harvard or Yale

that came out saying that * was an a##hole student?

[kath]

65. yes a prof from Harvard B School. He's spoken out several times.

Can't remember his name.

[baldguy]

62. The older you get, the fewer brain cells you have to work with.

Not every Republican is stupid, but most stupid people are Republican.

[PatriotGames]

67. The older I get, the more un-Republican I get.

[hopeisaplace]

70. older=more republican? let me play with this for a bit, :)

hmmm...

Less tolerant=more republican

I got mine now FU=more republican

My brain cells are dying off=more republican

Offer me a tax break, I'm sold=more republican

I don't read=more republican

A beer-drinkin' prez! whoa it's official=I'm Republican.