Lou Dobbs is kicking Suzanne Malveaux's ass

[CatWoman]

as she is doing nothing but shilling for Chimpy, re his pandering to the Hispanic community.

[JI7]

1. fuck them both

[Gabi Hayes]

2. who?

dobbs, malheaux, chimp, or the hispanic community?

[JI7]

8. my post was aimed at Dobbs and Malveaux

but include Chimp in that also.

[Gabi Hayes]

16. bueno!

[CatWoman]

19. Gabi!!!

you behave yourself!!!

:hi:

[Gabi Hayes]

40. por que.....

peeg?



lest we forget the Leopold Legacy

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=1196737

sounds like a Robert Ludlum hackathon....

[no name no slogan]

21. Sounds like an Amazing Karnak joke (nt)

[Gabi Hayes]

41. now THAT's funny!

[bluedog]

3. yes he is....put her on the spot

funny bush obeys this law and no others right?

[CatWoman]

4. plus, as Clinton signed the executive order mandating that certain

documents be published in Spanish, why can't Chimpy issue or amend that order?

He's certainly overturned enough of Clinton's EO's.

[TheWebHead]

5. I thought it was pretty unfair

I don't like how Dobbs interrogates CNN's correspondents. Who cares if the WH website is in Spanish as well. There are Hispanics who are bilingual, but not proficient enough to understand every word esp. those used by Wonks in DC.

[CatWoman]

6. the only thing that would have made it any better for me

was for him the reach his hand across the screen and slap her dead in the mouth.

[Halliburton]

20. she got what she deserved for being a shill

[LostInAnomie]

7. I thought it was pretty funny when she acted confused...

... obviously to avoid answering his question and he responded with "Well, since it's obvious that you don't want me to repeat the question, I will move on."

[bluedog]

9. yea..that was a hoot............she didn't want to answer

[faithnotgreed]

10. what was the question she was avoiding

thanks for the details

[LostInAnomie]

13. I can't remember exactly.

I guess a transcript would help, but I doubt it would really do justice. It was obvious from her body language that she was refusing to answer the question.

[faithnotgreed]

14. ok thank you. any real-time calling out of the corporate reporters

piques my interest so im just glad it happened

[CatWoman]

15. he wanted to know why Bush is going all out towards Hispanics

by publishing equal text in Spanish on the WH website, especially when he and the Republicans made such a show of the "English Only" legislation that passed the Senate.

[faithnotgreed]

25. thanks cw

i think i know where lou hangs out on that topic but again im glad whenever someone gets called out for their propaganda
im sorry that its because of immigration/otherness

[LSparkle]

11. Geez, one sit-down with Asshat and she's become a shill

BE A REPORTER, for Pete's sake! Chimperor's showing the world what a pandering ass he is, and she's loathe to call him on it? FIRE HER!

[TahitiNut]

30. She's always auditioning for the job of Press Secretary, it seems.

Her contrived pharsing and repetition of propagandistic euphemisms annoys the hell outa me. She's so smarmy, it curdles the cream in my coffee.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

12. Dobbs is a pig,

and his interrogation and rudeness to her was unforgiveable. He's a racist scum who won't give anyone with an opposing idea even a chance to appear on his show.

A one-note bigot, Lou Dobbs.

Suzanne Malveaux does a good job of reporting - she's a pro - and he treated her like she was dirt.

I wonder if he ever considers that we stole this country from its original inhabitants. Or were they, maybe, all named "Dobbs"?

[LostInAnomie]

17. He had opposing views numerous times in the past month.

During the rallies he had their organizers on multiple times. He's had the mayor of LA on. He's interviewed pro-immigrant pundits numerous times in the past few weeks.

While it isn't exactly equal time (it is his show after all) he does allow opposing views on, and often.

[Sugarcoated]

43. He has opposing viewpoints pretty regularly, actually

He's very steadfast in his views, but usually respectful, and I thought he was in this case. But he wasn't just accepting her brainless shilling. He was firm with her and I thought he was respectful and appropriate.

[CatWoman]

18. yeah, she's a pro all right

she all but unzipped Tony Snow's pants and fellate him on the spot the other day.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200605170004

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

24. HA!

[Captain Hilts]

22. I often don't agree with Dobbs, but he's not "racist scum." nt

[radio4progressives]

31. everything that spews from his mouth on this issue is racist to the core

the sentiment, the obsessiveness, his reaction to Senator Reid's statement on the English Only legislation (for once Reid was absolutely correct about something, i hope the hell he doesn't back down from it) ..

that's Lou Dobbs. That's what Racism sounds and looks like.

[Saturday]

23. It is absolutely not true that Lou Dobbs .....

has no opposing views on his show. He has opposing viewpoints represented often.

[Sugarcoated]

44. Dobbs has some very valid points to debate on the issue

but I see, night after night, the pro-illegal immigration guests dodge. Night after night after night. I admire his patience, actually. Why the hell can't there ever be an honest debate about it? And without the race card BS being played?

[radio4progressives]

46. See post #45.

We have such a long long way to go to educate people what the hell Racism is about. my goddess we have such a long way to go.


But our entire history is rooted in the notion that we are the entitled ones, we of the White Race - all others must bow down and succumb ot our supremacy.

We came and we conquered therefore we own it.
Our culture rules and language rules supreme over all others.

No wonder we've betrayed the principles of the Declaration of Independence and so easily relinquished our rights contained in the Bill of Rights - we really do believe in a fascists state and a Monarchy all wrapped up in one package.

Because if we were really honest, and if we even knew our own fucking history of this very thing that's going on, and if we recognized that Hitler used the very same argument to advance the fascist state - and imperialism, and the supreme race, and the supreme language - if people understood just remedial history - it would still be supported by some, but most i think would be in the streets to fight against the evil racists rhetoric that Lou Dobbs engages in.

And people would recognize it immediately.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1238837&mesg_id=1240486

[Bitter Cup]

27. Randi Rhodes doesn't qualify?

hmmm

[radio4progressives]

28. I agree that Dobbs is a One Note Bigot.

I didn't see the segment, but I have seen this asshole do that with other reporters - he's great on Bush Bashing with some things.

But his White Supremacists proclivities are worse than insane. He should be OFF the air, imo.

Not Malveaux.

[BlueStater]

29. Prove Dobbs is a bigot

That is a simplistic bullshit statement.

[radio4progressives]

35. prove it? Dobbs proves it every single day of the week.

the evidence is there right in your face for nearly 60 minutes five days a week, save the time for commericals and the little time of obligatory coveragge on other lesser important than the "Illegal Immigration" issues, like the War in Iraq.

In other words, when Dobbs isn't covering Iraq - (i think he devotes, what 5 minutes or thereabouts of his hour long program to that?) he is spewing rabid demogoguery deeply rooted in pure bigotry and racism.

[BlueStater]

38. I watch Dobbs everyday...

...and don't see any of the nonsense you're talking about.

Dobbs is anti-illegal immigration. He doesn't believe these people should break the law and then be rewarded for it by being allowed to stay. I happen to agree with him. What's so racist about that?

[radio4progressives]

45. The Focus of "Illegal Immigration" is SOLELY on Mexico

Identify one single time, when Dobbs focused on the "illegal immigration" from Europe? Ireland, Poland, Russia, Scotland, France, Hungary, Germany, Australia, Canada, and other countries of Anglo or European descent?

Just One. Name One.

[Elwood P Dowd]

47. There is a simple answer for that

More come in from Mexico than all those countries combined! Are there 10-20 million illegal European immigrants in this country? Are tens of thousands of Europeans pouring across the Mexican border every month? Also, in case you haven't heard, these people are breaking the fucking law!

U.S. Code as of: 01/06/03
Section 1325. Improper entry by alien

(a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection;
misrepresentation and concealment of facts
Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States
at any time or place other than as designated by immigration
officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration
officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United
States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the
willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first
commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or
imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent
commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or
imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.
(b) Improper time or place; civil penalties
Any alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to
enter) the United States at a time or place other than as
designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil
penalty of -
(1) at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or
attempted entry); or
(2) twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of
an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under
this subsection.
Civil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not
in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be
imposed.
(c) Marriage fraud
Any individual who knowingly enters into a marriage for the
purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws shall be
imprisoned for not more than 5 years, or fined not more than
$250,000, or both.
(d) Immigration-related entrepreneurship fraud
Any individual who knowingly establishes a commercial enterprise
for the purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws
shall be imprisoned for not more than 5 years, fined in accordance
with title 18, or both.

[Captain Hilts]

48. Part of the argument is that other nationalities come through Mexico also.

Mexico is a main entry point of Eastern Europeans, for example.

And folks worry about terrorist types also making the trek. This is one reason for the focus on the IRA's activities in Latin America.

[Oilwellian]

33. Malveaux does a good job?

She's done nothing but fellate the Bush crime family for 5 years.

[medeak]

26. wish he would leave Harry Reid along n/t

[Skidmore]

32. Reid did say something stupid. I agree with that. Everytime he

speaks about illegal immigrants, he does so in the context of the hotel workers in Las Vegas. The one issue I don't support the party on is immigration because whatever semblance of a position we have on it appears to ensure that there will be more of the same for generations to come. It feeds the corporate need for cheap labor and does not address the trade and other international corrections needed to introduce fairness into the labor and goods markets.

[upi402]

34. No conozco con Espaniol pero in el futuro, deseo aprendar

Es mui dificil cuando yo no tengo tiempo estudiar.

[radio4progressives]

36. ¿por qué es esto?

¿Es es porque usted tiene que trabajar tan con fuerza cada día?

[radio4progressives]

37. Que yo encuentre Asqueroso.

Usted seguramente parece estar "Contento"..

La Supremacía Blanca está en el corazón de lo que continúa ahora. Los intolerantes en América tiemblan en el miedo que algún día, ellos podrían encontrarse "una minoría" en América..

¡Imagine esto!

[NorthernSpy]

39. Suzanne Malveaux is a twit

Pretty, but a twit. It's no surprise that Dobbs made a mince of her.

[TheWebHead]

42. Here's the transcript

DOBBS: We always know there's a little bit of a ripple when a spokesman has to say what the official meant to say.

Suzanne, many of the president's statements on the White House Web site are written in both English and Spanish. Why in the world is that?

MALVEAUX: Well, there are two reasons. Essentially, there is one which is -- there's an executive order by President Clinton back in 2000 that says, at least for federal Web sites, they have to be accessible for those who are not proficient in English. That is one of the reasons why.

The other one, of course, Lou, is the political one, and that is the White House outreach to the Hispanic community, making it very clear they want their message both in English and Spanish so that particular community understands what this administration has to say.

DOBBS: That particular community being whom?

MALVEAUX: The Hispanic community. Those that speak Spanish.

DOBBS: The Hispanic community. The Hispanic community in this country speaks English.

MALVEAUX: Well, there are some who speak Spanish as well, some who speak both languages. It's clearly outreach to both.

DOBBS: It clearly is also putting the lie to the requirement that one be proficient in English to be a citizen of this country, is it not?

MALVEAUX: I don't understand your question, Lou. I mean, the White House simply does two things. They put out this message in Spanish because they're required to by executive order. And secondly, they've made a real strong point of reaching out to the Hispanic community for political reasons.

DOBBS: I don't think, based on your response, you want me to restate the question. So let me put it this way. In making the English the national language, will the White House continue to put out its Web site in both English and Spanish?

MALVEAUX: Well, yes. They're required by law under executive order do just that. Secondly, they're not going to stop their outreach simply because they're making a distinction between national or official language.

DOBBS: As a point of law, by the way, President Bush is perfectly capable as president of the United States of overriding that previous executive order, we should point out.

Suzanne, thank you very much.

Suzanne Malveaux from the White House.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0605/19/ldt.01.html