Has America become a Fascist society?

[Poiuyt]

Watch this video:

http://www.bushflash.com/14.html

[dubeskin]

1. That was pretty good

I never though about that. America has become fascist, and 70& of America knows it.

[Scoody Boo]

12. We should not be mislead.

A big reason that Bush's approval numbers are in such a freefall is because a lot of the Right feels he is not Conservative enough. Many of those, especially in the Southern Red States are lost to us. Bush's low numbers should not be a reason to become complacent.

[Proud_Democratt]

2. YES!!!!!!!

[genie_weenie]

3. Sorry, it was Fascist LONG before the Bush Regime.

Alien and Sedition Acts of 1798, Espionage Act of 1918, Vietnam, The "Banana Wars" of the 1800s and early 1900s, Ludlow 1914, the Bonus Army 1932, Haymarket square "Riot" 1886, Wounded Knee 1890, The Second Seminole War 1832-1841, the IRS, The Civil War...

HRH Chimpy Decider the 1st is just more open about it and more reported on. I think Lincoln, Wilson, McKinely, LBJ all killed more Americans.

[Poppyseedman]

4. Hey, Stop posting things outside of the template

I never understand folks here become so blind in their hatred to chimper they forgot we have Presidents far worse in terms of violations of our rights like FDR {D} and Wilson {D} The number of death like FDR {D} Lincoln {R} and LBJ {D}

I think most people here would be appalled by what Wilson and Lincoln did. Lincoln is almost understandable since we were in Civil war. I find it just a little strange that the good people here at DU rail against bushco yet seem to have no concept of history and that some of the most egregious violators of our fundamental rights have a {D} after their name.

Not giving bushco a pass, but to putting it in perspective, we will survive this in spite of of the hand wringing thinking we are in a fascist state like never before.

[genie_weenie]

5. Nail Hammer Nail Hammer

I've been typing this in many a thread. Bushco is bad, no qualifiers needed. But, he's simply following the same playbook that's been used for 225 years...

Thanks for the acknowledgment sometimes I think I'm just pissing in the wind..
Have a :beer: on me!

[Poppyseedman]

7. Wilson would have half the people on this board arrested

I think I will have a beer on you.!!!

Thanks,

PS just don't piss into the wind

[Proud_Democratt]

11. If you're saying that the US has

been a war-mongering country....I would agree. Genocide and slavery are our virtues also.

[madmusic]

6. That was then...

Bush is now.

[Poppyseedman]

9. You miss the point

What Wilson did makes bush look like a rank amateur.
Bush will be gone in Jan 2009. Maybe if we stop playing politics like bush is running in 2006, we might win an election in 2008 :think:

[madmusic]

16. It's the machine...

Bush is only a cog. This machine started with the effort to put Reagan in office, first as governor of California with the goal of him being president. At the same time they launched an effective campaign to remove "liberal" judges from the Californian Supreme Court.

No matter who is in office, or even if they don't have anyone in office, the machine will still grind until we can debunk it.

[Yollam]

8. Truman (D) also did some questionable things...

...however, the presidents you mentioned committed their offenses with much broader consensus than Bush has, and without committing outright fraud on the people (unless you think LBJ knew Tonkin was a fraud).

Bush is not exceptional in his bloodthirstiness, but in his dishonesty and contempt for the American electorate, he is without parallel.

[genie_weenie]

14. But, remember people had much less access to info

back then. And I think pResident Bush's hero Teddy was much more contemptous of the American people. And probably Woody Wilson as well.

IMO of Bush, I think he is geneuiely perplexed at all the disgruntlement at his policies. He clearly sees himself doing what is right and neccesary.

I think the observer effect (We living in the here and now) is skewing our conclusions. But, in any regard Bush ranks among the Top 4 (Wilson, Lincoln, McKinley) worst offenders and destroyers of America.

Sometimes I think UBL had a crystal ball or had looked into Bush's deep dark soul to know all he had to do to destroy America was hit us once and allow Bush to rip out our own heart and render our flesh himself...

The Horror, The Horror.

10 bucks says Bush never read The Heart of Darkness

[Proud_Democratt]

10. Number of deaths-FDR????

Are you referring to WW2? Japan attacked us at Pearl Harbor. Englands' Winston Churchill begged for our military support for 1 - 2 years BEFORE we used military force.

[genie_weenie]

15. Much debate whether the island hopping campaign

was at all neccesary. Many believed then and hold now that US Forces did not need to take all the Japanese held islands which contained ground forces but no naval or air power.

And FDR wanted us in the war in 1940, that's why our escorts radioed in Nazi sub positions (back when Subs were lethal and ASW was not perfected) and took ships all the way to Iceland under US protection, signed the lend-lease.

[mdmc]

13. Killing JFK kinda sealed the deal.