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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 12:25 PM
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Something Has Gone Terribly Wrong
Something Has Gone Terribly Wrong
by Jim Wallis

(excerpt)

AFTER WHAT’S happened around God’s Politics elsewhere, I wasn’t surprised by the reception in Australia, and again I was very encouraged. What most struck me were the attitudes of Australians toward the United States—and how much that has changed since I last was there. Don’t get me wrong, Australians generally like Americans and that hasn’t changed. But the level of alienation, anger, and disbelief so many people now feel toward American policies was extraordinary. George Bush’s war in Iraq generates great emotional opposition from ordinary Australians, despite Prime Minister John Howard’s characteristic acquiescence to U.S. war policy. They can’t understand how the deception and manipulation that led to war were allowed to stand. They can’t comprehend how President Bush and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld continue despite the disaster of Iraq. They can’t stomach Americans involved in torture, and not holding those in authority responsible for it. And they are increasingly opposed to the presence of Australian troops in Iraq—a recent poll in the country found 59 percent of Australians opposed, the highest to date. The week I returned to the U.S., Australia suffered its first casualty in the war, which will certainly drive the opposition even higher.

They think America is losing its sanity and its soul with its “war on terrorism.” And how can this administration ignore the consensus of the world on global warming, they wonder? And how can the U.S. now threaten to attack Iran, perhaps even with nuclear weapons? What can the U.S. officials be thinking? I was continually asked. On one of the leading evening news shows, I was asked what I thought of these two “fundamentalists” (Bush and Iran’s President Ahmadinejad) squaring off, with nuclear weapons in the balance. I replied that it should be a very frightening prospect for all of the world’s people.

The profound disaffection with their old American friend wasn’t limited to the left wing of Australia. My tour was sponsored by World Vision Australia, and I was joined the whole way by its director, Tim Costello—a clear and public voice of prophetic conscience in his own nation. The way an imperial and increasingly messianic American foreign policy has gotten associated with Christian faith around the world is almost incomprehensible—and terribly embarrassing to the mainstream Australian Christians with whom I spoke.

Many Australians are deeply disillusioned with the policies and priorities of the Bush administration. They think something has gone terribly wrong in America. Being with them for Easter, on the other side of the world, made me realize again how much they are right. And I’m sure my Australian friends would have shuddered, once more, when George Bush reminded us last week that he is the “decider” in America and, by implication, in the world. Perhaps it’s time for Americans to confront the question of how those who have taken our nation down this disastrous path can be removed from power.

It’s hard to keep being reminded of how crazy and dangerous so many people around the world think our country has become.

http://www.sojo.net/index.cfm?action=magazine.article&issue=Soj0606&article=060651



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Boomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 12:27 PM
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1. Quit your whining
The Aussies are just "unsettled."

:sarcasm:
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 12:30 PM
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2. "Perhaps it’s time"
No "perhaps" about it. It's PAST time to ANSWER the question of how those who have taken our nation down this disastrous path can be removed from power.
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godhatesrepublicans Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 12:38 PM
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3. To steal a line from a recent movie, ...
"Well, that was my plan. What's yours?"

I've written and called every elected official I can lay claim to, begging them to impeach the bastard. I've protested every day I could get off of work. I've street preached that Republicans are going to hell. I've done all I can think of.

What's left, a petition to the United Nations to help topple an unelected dictator?
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 12:41 PM
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5. Call in the calvary!
j/k

I know what you mean. I've written and called and called and written. (unable to do the protests but would if I could :( )
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RoBear Donating Member (781 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 01:05 PM
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9. Cavalry
not calvary. Sorry, but once an English teacher always an English teacher I guess...
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 01:09 PM
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12. LOL!
My Dad was an English teacher. Funny thing is, I mis-corrected it to cavalry. :blush:

Thanks!
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 12:58 PM
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8. I was thinking that alll the retired Generals could
stage a nice little coup d'etat....then maybe place Wesley Clark as interim until elections can be held this November for Pres.
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 01:09 PM
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11. Yes, it IS past time! Even so, I find it very encouraging to hear a ....
... religious leader make this statement: "Perhaps it’s time for Americans to confront the question of how those who have taken our nation down this disastrous path can be removed from power."

Jim Wallis has a large audience.

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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 01:10 PM
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13. Agreed! Coming from him, those are strong words
:thumbsup:
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 12:40 PM
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4. They aren't upset enough..
They will only become more upset when they start to see how they are losing more soldiers and their fortunes.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 12:42 PM
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6. The last time I was in Australia, it was 1995 and they loved American's
My Aussie friend asked me the exact same questions and I have no good answer other than, I tell him, I can't control WH and the government and they won't listen to we the people.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 12:45 PM
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7. I Have An Email Buddy From Australia Who Sends Me REGULAR
Anti-Bush emails! He digs them up and sends me some really good stuff. I don't think they're any too happy with us. I'm sure they don't blame all of us, but I think their worm turned.

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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 01:06 PM
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10. We once rescued the world...
Edited on Fri May-19-06 01:07 PM by Mr_Jefferson_24
...from the forces of expanding fascism, now the world must rescue us and itself from the beast we (America) have become. Not such a pretty face anymore:

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northamericancitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 01:14 PM
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15. K & R
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 01:39 PM
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16. My heart is broken.....
:cry: :cry: :cry:
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 02:20 PM
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19. Good for you, you're not numb as...
Edited on Fri May-19-06 02:36 PM by Mr_Jefferson_24
...so many of us apparently have become.

Here are a few words from the introduction in her book "The Future of Ice," by American writer, Gretel Ehrlich. She writes of the loss of our climate stability, but her insights are also well applicable to the loss of what was once a stable, healthy, and vibrant democracy---the loss of our country---the loss of our national soul.

"We're spoiled because we've been living in an interglacial paradise for twenty thousand years. Now we're losing it. Climate stability, not to mention human superiority and economic viability, are illusions we must give up. Our can-do American optimism and our head-in-the-sand approach to economics when it takes into mind only profit and not the biological health of the planet—has left us one-sided. Too few of us remember how to be heartbroken. Or why we should be. We don't look because heartbreak might imply failure. But the opposite is true. A broken heart is an open heart, like a flower unfolding from its calyx, the one nourishing the other."


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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 05:01 PM
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20. Wise words...
Too few of us remember how to be heartbroken. Or why we should be. We don't look because heartbreak might imply failure. But the opposite is true. A broken heart is an open heart, like a flower unfolding from its calyx, the one nourishing the other."


Thank you for this.:hug:
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 10:48 AM
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23. We will need our allies help after the Bush disaster.
I hope they can forgive us.
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 01:14 PM
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14. I ran into some Aussie tourists the other day.
Older couple, you probably would have pegged them as conservatives from the US if you didn't hear their accents. They saw the "9/11 truth dollars" with Bush on them hanging on the bulletin board where I work and started asking questions. I told them that the majority of people in the US hated Bush. They said they "wished John Howard would get out of Bush's bum." That was classic.
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 01:51 PM
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17. They reelected Howard, a Bushco Pimp and Enabler.
They've got NOTHING to complain about to us.
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 02:01 PM
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18. One might say the same thing about Americans 're-electing' bush.
Would that be fair? Do we have NOTHING to complain about either?
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 10:35 AM
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21. What? Your question is illogical and a non-sequitor.
The article said Aussies couldn't believe Americans let the Iraq lies stand by reelecting Bush. So, they are complaining about us for a bad election outcome. I don't believe it stated anywhere the Americans are seething at Australia for reelecting Howard. Did I miss something? I think not.

They shouldn't hold America to a higher standard than they hold themselves. They reelected Howard so they are every bit as guilty as the US. Both countries are capable of supporting fascists. They have a right to dislike Bush but not to pretend that Australians would be any better at selecting leaders. They aren't as Howard proves.

And of course, we have plenty to complain about. Our fellow citizens failed their duty--they are sheeple.
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:33 AM
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24. I interpreted the article as a criticism of the American/bush gov't....
... not as a criticism of Americans. Sounds like you interpreted it differently.

Most of the world agrees w/their outlook on this gov't... and as each day goes by, it seems that more and more Americans are joining the majority of the world... and we all need to speak out.

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agincourt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 10:46 AM
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22. We are becoming an example to the world,
Of what happens when you let corporate scum and televangelist serpents take over your countries political system. I'm glad Australians are seeing the GOP and their supporters for what they are. Myself I don't think the US political system will change unless there is revolution, which I don't yet see any signs of happening. The hope is that the rest of the world will see this conservative crap and stay away from it. I pray that 15 years from now when we go full Taliborg, we'll be too dumb to remember how to run our ICBMs.
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:14 PM
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25. Thanks for posting. I just sent this to my Aussie relatives. KNR! ..n/t
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:18 PM
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26. BTW, I love your sig line. Elie Wiesel is an old time fav. of mine! n/t
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:45 PM
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27. The quote is from his Nobel Prize acceptance speech.
The text of the speech is available @ http://www.eliewieselfoundation.org/ElieWiesel/speech.html

The Perils of Indifference was a speech given @ the White House on April 12, 1999; text & audio is available @ http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/ewieselperilsofindifference.html

The quote in my sig line is how I try to live my life.

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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 05:48 PM
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28. Thanks so much for the links! Years ago, I heard him speak at
my college campus. Such eloquence and compassion...I had just read Souls On Fire, and was filled with such yearning for his noble courage. It was a night to remember! And if I remembered it as fully as I should, I too would be using your sig line as how to live my life.
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 07:13 PM
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29. Please... use it.
So many need us desperately!
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