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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 10:02 AM
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The #1 reason George W Bush should be impeached.
And I hope the wheels are put in motion if the Democrats win in November. Because we cannot take two more years of this type of politics. America deserves better. The sooner he is out of office - the better. Nothing is going to get better in the last two years.

Yes, the American people, mostly Republicans, made a huge mistake. But that is no excuse to continue with it. We should correct it as soon as possible. January 2007 seems like an appropriate date to me.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 10:05 AM
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1. As george himself says, 70% of the folks are just 'unsettled'
Let's settle his ass somewhere other than the White House.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 10:08 AM
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2. Well dust is going to settle tooo!
IMPEACH!
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 10:09 AM
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3. Reasonable people will ask . . .
-- even people who hate Schimpanski's guts and who have recently adopted a healthier lifestyle solely to outlive the sunuvabitch and have the opportunity to shit on his grave -- they will ask "is the disruption in the governance of the nation worth it to turn the next few years into the 'Impeach Bush' story?"

What happens while we're cutting rails, boiling tar, and plucking chickens for Georgie's ride out of town? Will Iraq take care of itself? Will the bad laws unwrite themselves? Will the deficit spontaneously shrink?

And more importantly, will the people feel they're well served by a party focused on wreaking righteous vengeance when there's other pressing work to be done?

Just askin'.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 10:13 AM
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4. Nothing is going to get accomplished with him in office...
No matter how pressing. Get rid of him. Two more years is unnecessary. Let them pick whomever they want. We need a change in leadership.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 10:19 AM
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7. Keep in mind that "whomever" is, in fact, Dick Cheney n/t
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 10:20 AM
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8. Assuming he doesn't croak, that is correct....
But there is no reason not to ask Cheney to pack his stuff also. They are a team.
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AverageJoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 10:48 AM
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11. With all due respect, such people would not be "reasonable"
Bush is in office illegally, after literally stealing two elections. He lied us into a war. He has destroyed the economy. He has polarized the people of the United States. He has made our country hated around the world. He destroyed the CIA. He does not have the intellectual capacity to serve in any high office. He does not have the courage to face a grieving mother with hard questions about her son's death. And these are just a few of the things we KNOW about. Imagine what else there is that is still secret.

It is the height of irresponsibility NOT to impeach this man.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 04:06 PM
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12. Yes, but . . .
• Most people don't believe Bush stole 2000 or 2004, and that the Supreme Court decision, rather than being treasonous, was a wise way to avoid further damage to the social fabric.
• They also believe that HE sincerely believed the bad intelligence given him by the CIA, et al.
• The deficit won't destroy the economy while Bush is in office: the shoe is dropping, but hasn't hit yet, and most people don't really believe it will -- at least not disastrously.
• These same people don't travel much. The fact that we're hated doesn't seem real to them.
• The destruction of the CIA is, to most people, indistinguishable from a major reform-based shakeup. How much does anyone outside the Agency really know how big a hit it's taken?
• People think he's plenty smart, just not hifalutin.
• Rather than not having the courage to face Cindy, people believe he would have opened himself up to an endless stream of grieving mothers had he met her. Sounds like wisdom to them.
• By definition, his secret crimes are unknown and hence have no effect on people's opinions.

Now, one can certainly make the case that the beliefs I've listed above are not, in actual fact, "reasonable," since they fly in the face of what (I think) you and I KNOW is actually going on. Nevertheless, even among the people who disapprove of Bush's performance, many of these beliefs are still held. And the people who hold them would be, by almost any measure, "reasonable."

A long way of saying that most Americans are not -- at this time -- interested in impeaching Bush, and they think that it would be inappropriate to make that the primary objective of a Democratic House and/or Senate. We can't run in November on a pure anti-Bush platform, we need to run against ALL 'Licans and FOR positive, corrective programs.
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AverageJoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:11 AM
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13. My point is that he is, in fact, a criminal
and crimes should be prosecuted no matter what the mass of people think. I can't agree that anyone who still can't see bush's malfeasance is in any way reasonable.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 05:21 PM
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14. There's the rub . . .
By informally quizing the people I know (a pretty representative sample across the population) and keeping tabs on the news across a variety of media, I can tell you confidently that most people do not believe Bush is a criminal.

Sure, they happen to be wrong. But we cannot ignore the fact (I'm calling it a fact: you might dispute that) of their disbelief when we make our political calculations. And keep in mind that impeachment is not a legal process -- it's a political process and is conducted under political rules and not legal ones.

I'm not a lawyer or anything, but I think Schimpanski can be subjected to legal proceedings after he's left office. Three years with this vicious, stupid traitor in office is awful to contemplate, but . . . what ya gonna do?
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 10:14 AM
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5. It Won't Happen.
Our side never wins. Face it. Even when we win, we don't have enough balls to go after shrub for impeachment. He'll serve out his term, perhaps longer than his term, and then retire to a nice life living off all his $$$ in TX, while the country heads south into the next decade.

I've frankly given up hope this country will ever be honest in my lifetime. And I'm not sure which is worse. Their side getting away with it, or our side getting our hopes up that they might be held accountable.

Salvation seems to consistently elude us. Can't we win just once? ONCE??????
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 10:16 AM
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6. Actually, there IS another way. . .
but it's not fit to be mentioned here.

:evilfrown:
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RufusEarl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 10:29 AM
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9. No one would like to see him gone, more then me.
But when the Dem's take over the house in 06, if they start impeachment hearing it will take over two years to complete the process.

I say keep him bottled up for two years, let the Dem's run the country and try to undo some of the things this guy has screwed up.

It may well take two or three presidents to clean up the mess Bu$h has created, and IMHO it's more important to fix our country then to settle scores.'

He's unable to govern now with his polls in the 20's, and that's a good thing. But it's not good for our country, to have anyone in the WH that can't govern.

As we speak, the republican senate are dealing with matters such as the constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage, sorry folks but we have serious problems in this country and that ain't one of them.

Let get a congress that will address the problem this admin have created, and to hell with Bu$h. Impeachment will only satisfy folks like us, we're better then that.

Peace!
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 10:29 AM
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10. I can't wit for that LANDSLIDE to happen!!
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