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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:00 PM
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Will Blackwell Provide Enough Voting Machines to Dems in 06 Election?
Because electronic voting is generally subject to more delays than other types of voting, a cynical way to help your candidate win is to make sure that precincts dominated by the opposition party don’t receive enough voting machines. Kenneth Blackwell, Ohio’s Secretary of State during the 2004 Presidential election, must have known that very well, as tens of thousands of mostly Democratic, poor and minority voters left long voting lines, characterized by waiting periods of up to several hours, prior to casting their ballot, on Election Day 2004.

There were 7 Ohio counties in November 2004 that used electronic voting machines. Three (3) of the 7 counties were characterized by unequal distribution of voting machines to one party or the other. In each of those three counties (Franklin, Mahoning, and Lake) Republican precincts had significantly more machines per thousand voters than Democratic precincts.


Relationship between machines per registered voter, voter turnout, and Kerry vote share

More specifically, here are tables for all three counties, which specify the number of precincts, machines per registered voter, and voter turnout, according to the Kerry vote share (percent of voters voting for Kerry). These tables were computed using the data that Professor Walter Mebane used to produce his portion of the 2004 Ohio Election Report sponsored by the Democratic National Committee (DNC).

Lake County

Kerry %     Precincts    Machines/1000 reg. voters    Turnout
20-30       4                3.82                                 67.5%
30-40       32              3.51                                 68.4%
40-50       76              3.55                                 69.1%
50-60       88              3.40                                 66.1%
60-70       15              3.19                                 62.0%
70-80       2                3.10                                 50.0%


Mahoning County

Kerry %     Precincts    Machines/1000 reg. voters    Turnout
30-40       17               6.90                                 68.2%
40-50       51               6.48                                 66.1%
50-60       68               6.48                                 65.6%
60-70       75               6.41                                 62.0%
70-80       42               5.72                                 56.0%
80-90       38               5.01                                 47.6%
90-100     21               5.31                                 50.0%


Franklin County

Kerry %     Precincts    Machines/1000 reg. voters    Turnout
20-30       18              4.02                                 67.8%
30-40       130             3.92                                 66.4%
40-50       236             3.66                                 60.6%
50-60       154             3.32                                 57.1%
60-70       90              2.94                                 51.1%
70-80       57              3.10                                 48.6%
80-90       69              3.08                                 49.4%
90-100     32              3.03                                 47.5%


There are two important things to note from observation of these tables. First, there is a general and significant trend in all three counties for the number of machines per registered voters to be very high in the heaviest Bush precincts and then become progressively lower the higher the Kerry vote. Secondly, voter turnout demonstrated precisely the same relationship, being highest in the heaviest Bush precincts and then becoming progressively lower in the Kerry precincts.


Low voter turnout in precincts with small numbers of machines per registered voter

When too few voting machines are available in relation to the number of voters and the length of time that it takes to vote on those machines, long voting lines develop, with consequent long waiting periods. This causes many voters to leave the voting lines before voting, as working class voters are often faced with the fear of losing their job if they don’t report to work, some voters may not be physically fit enough to stand in the lines for hours, others need to attend to family responsibilities, and some voters may simply lose patience. These lost voters, in turn, are reflected by low “voter turnout”, since “voter turnout” is calculated as the number of votes cast, divided by the number of registered voters.

Reports of long lines on Election Day 2004 were especially prevalent in two of the three counties noted above, Franklin and Mahoning. Those two counties were among the top four counties in Ohio that day with respect to the rate of reporting instances of long voting lines to the national Electronic Incidence Reporting System – EIRS (The other two top four counties were Cuyahoga and Summit, also heavily Democratic counties.) And furthermore, a detailed statistical analysis by Elizabeth Liddle, of the relationship between voting machines per registered voter and voter turnout, indicated that the long voting lines in Franklin County alone resulted in a net loss to the Kerry/Edwards ticket of approximately 7,000 votes.


Reason for small numbers of machines per registered voter in the Kerry precincts

Given the fact of low voter turnout in precincts with too few machines per registered voter, it is obvious that providing insufficient numbers of machines for specific precincts will hurt the Party that predominates in those precincts.

That raises the question, “Why were there inadequate numbers of voting machines in 3 of the 7 Ohio counties that used electronic voting machines on Election Day 2004?”

One excuse for the shortage of voting machines in Democratic Ohio precincts on Election Day 2004 was that the allocation of voting machines was based on the number of “active voters” rather than registered voters. “Active voter” means a voter who has voted in recent elections. Since Democrats often vote less frequently than Republicans, so this excuse runs, fewer machines per registered voters were allocated to Democratic precincts because these voters were thought to be less likely to vote than Republican voters.

I don’t buy that excuse for a minute. In the first place, there was a massive and well publicized get-out-the-vote campaign for the Kerry/Edwards ticket in Ohio in 2004, Democrats were highly energized for that election, and election officials (including Kenneth Blackwell) should have known that and prepared for it. Secondly, it could very well be that a history of relatively low voter turnout in Democratic precincts is due largely to the same kind of voter suppression that we saw in Ohio in 2004. Thirdly, voting is among the most sacred of rights in our country, and there is no excuse for election officials failing to provide sufficient numbers of voting machines. Fourthly, there were 68 unused voting machines in Franklin County on Election Day 2004. And fifthly, dirty tricks of this sort were perpetrated all over Ohio on Election Day 2004, as meticulously detailed in John Conyers’ Report of the Democratic Staff of the House Judiciary Committee.


What is the outlook for 2006

My belief is that if something isn’t done to prevent this problem from recurring, it will happen again in 2006. There are two ominous facts that suggest the likelihood of an even worse problem in 2006 than we saw in 2004. First, Blackwell is running for Governor this time – which means that he’s likely to be even more interested in the outcome of the election than he was in 2004. And secondly, I believe that there will be more Ohio counties using electronic voting machines in 2006 than there were in 2004 (Someone please tell me if I’m wrong about that).


Other Types of Fraud to watch out for

Lastly, I want to remind Ohioans that the kind of election fraud discussed in this post is far from the only kind of election fraud perpetrated in Ohio in 2004 under the leadership of Kenneth Blackwell:

Voter registration fraud (illegal targeted purging of Democratic voters) was so rampant that it very well could have determined the results of the Presidential election in Ohio in 2004, even without the help of other kinds of fraud. The Democratic Party must give as much attention to making sure that their voters remain registered as they do to getting out the vote on Election Day.

Central tabulator mediated fraud could well have been a significant factor in the surprisingly low voter turnout in Cleveland and elsewhere in 2004. To prevent that we need to make note of the vote totals at every precinct at the time the polls close, and then make sure that those totals match the officially reported results.

Electronic vote switching was almost certainly a factor in the 2004 election, and is always a potential problem with electronic voting machines, especially when those machines count our votes with secret software code. Computer programmer Clint Curtis’s Judiciary Committee testimony to the effect that he was asked by Tom Feeney, a sleazy Republican operative, to write a vote switching program because they needed it in 2004 to control the south Florida vote, demonstrates the intent of Republicans to use this method of election fraud.

And finally, we must watch out for all the dirty little voter suppression tricks that were so well documented by Representative Conyers’ report, noted above.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:03 PM
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1. What a creep!
Edited on Thu May-18-06 09:15 PM by Botany
Blackwell should not be running for Gov .... he should be in jail

But from another DU post.

Ohio Governor: Strickland (D) Enjoys Growing Lead

May 18th

Ted Strickland (D) 52%
Ken Blackwell (R) 36%

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/2006/State%20Polls/May%...
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 11:58 PM
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13. That's great - Blackwell has to be stopped
If the 2004 Ohio election had been run honestly we wouldn't have been stuck with * for another four years.:grr:
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 12:41 AM
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15. Sitting back letting the Dem'a think they are going to kick ass...Rove is
Edited on Fri May-19-06 12:44 AM by LaPera
the master, the republicans have all learned Rove's diabolical tactics well...We don't need to the Dem's fire up, let then think they are going to win it...Let's do this a "come from behind "every we'll believe more...

Republicans have all the tools they take each race one at a time, no hurry as long as we get or keep the seat...we always have the machines...and the media won't question our reason why the republican won.

Just attack and beat the democrats to the punch.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 12:53 AM
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16. "Should be in jail" So should your Governor from what I've read...But
after all, they are self-righteous, arrogant, vindictive, lying, cheating, greedy republicans...Who can stop them?

Sorry, just a pontificating California dude...
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 02:36 PM
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25. Yes, he should be in jail
occupying the same cell as Katherine Harris.

Ohioans should know about his crimes before they vote in November.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:05 PM
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2. wee need to get a court order BEFORE the election.. mandating the
number of machines and allocating paper ballots in case the machines fail or it is apparent voters wont get into the precinct before it closes.. voter's should have the CHOICE of paper or machine
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:09 PM
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3. Thanks to HB 3 (the GOP's Disenfranchise law), Voter ID issues will be the
Edited on Thu May-18-06 09:21 PM by mod mom
new bottleneck in causing the long lines in low income, w elderly voters and college students.

DEM LEADERSHIP, US ELECTION REFORMERS HAVE BEEN PUSHING FOR VOTER IDs, AS WELL AS INFORMING THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE REQUIREMENTS, BUT TO NO AVAIL. PLS PROTECT YOUR BASE VOTERS AND GET VOTER IDs TO THEM, AS WELL AS CHECKING THEIR REGISTRATION STATUS. THE EFFECTS OF PURGING IN HIGH DEM PRECINCTS HELPED COST YOU THE '04 ELECTION!
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 08:05 PM
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34. Maybe this could backfire on them?
If the Dems do a good enough job in getting voter IDs to their people, maybe there will be less excuse for purging them.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:10 PM
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4. Enough for whom? Excellent post, and so well presented.
I wish this was a column in Newsweek, or USA Today.

:thumbsup:
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 04:22 AM
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18. Thank you Bleever - That would be great
But I don't think the MSM is interested in this topic.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:18 PM
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5. BTW, TFC Look what I found last night 1. Prov Ballots not counted becuz
status 200-"Not Registered", yet the voters were registered (1,597 from 1 county alone-Franklin) and 2. Voter Suppression Flyers. I listened to Kerry's interview with Stephanie Miller yesterday where he said what they did was dirty but not illegal and I was fuming!



1,597 Provisional Ballots from Franklin Co categorized as Status 200-”Not Registered”, yet registered

http://my.core.com/~rhh/index.htm


voter suppression flyers

http://www.solarbus.org/stealyourelection/voter-suppression-flyers.html
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 10:27 PM
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10. Yeah, there were undoubtedly tens of thousands of voters in
Cuyahoga County alone (almost all Democrats) who went to the polls on Election Day 2004 and found out that their registration had been purged. I do believe that that was the main method used to steal that election for Bush.

I do hope that someone has found a way to prevent that from happening again. Otherwise we'll probably be looking at Governor Blackwell for the next few years.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:24 PM
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6. And now you throw the electronic machines into the mix
ones that can't be kept secure and can't even guarantee they will operate on election day. The primary proved that. And those machines that did not work just happened to be in a heavily Democratic precinct.

This monster is set to steal another election, this time helping himself the the governorship.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 07:11 PM
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33. Yeah, electronic vote switching machines can be a major problem too
:grr:
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:24 PM
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7. Not if he can help it!
Blackwell has some friends in HIGH places...like the CFR.

2005 Council on Foreign Relations Membership Roster

(as of June 30, 2005)

http://www.geocities.com/benribqqq/cfr2005roster.html

He's almost a skull and bonesman...

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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 01:16 PM
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24. Well, I sure hope that Ohio Dems were able to learn some lessons
about him from their experience in 2004, and that they're able to apply those lessons to prevent much of it from happening again.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:38 PM
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8. This is an excellent site if you want to see how it was stolen in 2004:
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 10:51 AM
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22. Thank you mod mom, that is indeed an excellent site
Ray Beckerman and his group have done a great deal of work and documented a great deal of evidence for election fraud in Ohio in 2004.

Here also is a quick summary that I wrote of election fraud in 2004, and ideas on how to prevent it:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=710029&mesg_id=710029
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 10:10 PM
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9. Blackwell's down by 16 points
Blackwell is going to have to pull some REALLY dirty tricks to fix that.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 10:44 PM
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12. Blackwell Has About as Much Chance of Losing as This Man Did
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 05:55 PM
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30. Blackwell will lose if we work to make it happen
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 06:00 PM
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31. But HOW? All Blackwell Has to do is…

and a few million Democratic votes are down the

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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 06:32 PM
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32. So what are you saying - We should just give up?
Blackwell is not that powerful.

He got away with it in 04 because Ohioans were not vigilant enough. They were not expecting what he had in store, and they did not work to prevent it from happening.

It's very much what happened with Hitler. He took power because there weren't enought people willing to try to prevent it from happening -- too many people just went along with it.

We don't have to do that.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 09:18 PM
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38. Not that powerful?!?
he caused us to be saddled with Smirk for another 4 years. What would you consider powerful, if not that?

How exactly are they people of Ohio supposed to "prevent" him from fixing another election? If on November 7 there are NO VOTING MACHINES IN CLEVELAND, what exactly can the people of Ohio do? Not a fucking thing, that's what.

Whitewell will win in a landslide, as will DeSwine.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 10:04 PM
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41. I Am Saying that We Should Prepare for the Worst in Ohio
I don't think we can fault the people of Ohio for a lack of vigliance.
They put up a good fight every step of the way, aided by volunteers from all over the country.
There simply isn't much you can do when they declare a fake "terror alert" and throw out all
the election monitors and change all the numbers.

Last year they put initiatives on the ballot that would have restored democracy in the state.
Unfortunately, those initiatives were even more shamelessly robbed at the polls,
where a 2-1 margin FOR the reforms got turned into a 2-1 margin AGAINST --
the biggest flip in the history of professional polling.
A 30 point flip like that could unseat even the "safest" Democratic officeholder in Ohio.
A 16 point lead against Blackwell is nothing.

Giving up is not what I had in mind!

Strickland needs to campaign as if he were 16 points behind!
So does Kucinich and every other Democrat in Ohio!

And we need to pick up enough seats elsewhere so we can take the House even if we get swept in Ohio.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 10:16 PM
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42. Ok then, sorry I misunderstood you
Anyhow, I wasn't faulting the people of Ohio. I just meant to say that they may not have been as vigilent against fraud as they needed to be in 2004 because they weren't expecting it. I'm hoping that with the lessons they learned from 04 they will be able to be more vigilent in 06, thereby reducing the amount of fraud.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 07:45 AM
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19. I'm sure he's working on it. He is a very dangerous man.
Ohioans need to watch him very closely to combat all the dirty tricks that they can.

And his role in the 2004 election should be puclicized during this campaign, to make sure that people know whom they're voting for.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 10:29 PM
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11. No
Ohio is a Banana Republic. The elections there are just for show. Sadly, there isn't a thing we can do about it. The weird part is that even with the media whoring for exvey GOP candidate in the country, they still need to break the law to win.

But the Revolution's a-comin', and Whitewell will rue the day he decided to make a deal with Satan.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 12:05 PM
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23. I wouldn't say that there's nothing we can do about it
There are several things we can do to try to ensure fair elections, and there are numerous organizations and perhaps hundreds of individuals working on it.

Here are some suggestions for trying to ensure fair elections:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=710029&mesg_id=710029

Also, the travesties that Blackwell perpetrated in 2004 need to be publicized as much as we can.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 03:13 PM
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26. I must disagree
Whitewell got off Scot-free with his felonies in 2004, and will again this time. Dems have no power to do anything (no representation in the Congress, Wh, media, or courts), and Repubs are completely amoral - think the Constitution is only for them.

Think about this for a minute. If they declared, out loud, that voting machines will be provided only in suburban and other GOP-leaning districts, what could we do about it?

That's right - nothing. Yell and scream? OK, but no one will report it. Sue? That will work until it gets to a GOP judge, at which time it will be tossed out. Call the police? :rofl:. March in protest - fun, and good exercise, and useless.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 05:05 PM
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29. But we can't just give up
Five years under Bush seems like an eternity to most of us, but in historical terms it's really very short. All tyrannies end sooner or later. It's up to us to make sure that it happens sooner.

In any event, if we don't try, we lose.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 09:14 PM
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37. Sadly, this is too far gone to get back peacefully
The elections are fixed, the white house breaks a few more laws every day, internment camps are being assembled, the treasury has been so badly looted that my great-grandkids will suffer from it, the media excludes anything that the white how doesn't approve of, and we are powerless to do anything about any of it, since the courts, Congress, and media all work for the criminals.

If you want to know how this will end, read "The Rise and Fall of the 3rd Reich". It's all spelt out in there. It would be nice if we could look forward to the Bush Gang being taken down like Capone's gang was, but this particular bunch of crooks answers to no one, and there's no other gang to take them down.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 12:19 AM
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14. You better believe it! Purge the polls, machines that don't work in Dem
Edited on Fri May-19-06 12:33 AM by LaPera
areas, getting rid of voting memory cards, ballots that don't count...your name not there, when expecting it, did you move, democrat? Stealing precincts they need and can get away with,...the are cheating, ugly devils, win at any cost, ask questions later when it's too late and people have given up...These republican play for keeps...Judges, redistricting, stealing elections...what does it matter we have a one party system...
The republicans let in the machines...AND...they count the vote!!!!

And they never get called on it...so why not?Attack, they are always on the attack, while the fucking Dem's hide.

Just a republican control of the Secretary of States office...like now the way they got it... here in CA.

Watch it happen here in CA, with unpopular Musclehead Arnold, going against two democratic stiffs...with all he and the republicans have going and are going to do...in Nov. he will be Governor...ready to take his rightful place, a national place, in the fourth Reich.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 01:12 AM
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17. This has been bugging me....
Ohio held Primaries May 2, 2006. A small group of us conducted a Parallel Election in Westerville, Ohio...a republican stronghold.

Electronic voting machines were utilized at this precinct. I was talking to a worker (I believe from the BoE) who was taking care of replacing the paper supplies in the voting machines.

He was going from precinct to precinct. I saw him go to his truck carrying a black hard cover manual....and I was taken aback by what was written on the spine of the manual....THE ROVER MANUAL.

The Rover Manual? This has been in the back of my mind....I believe I need to get in touch with the BoE and ask to see this book. It was a hardback book. Maybe he was with the corporation furnishing the machines...but I got the impression he was BoE.

Anyone else in Ohio seen this Rover Manual? Doesn't that just sound like something Rove would do....put his name on a voting procedure book?

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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 07:53 AM
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20. Let us know what you find out... . . .
Who knows. It sounds like the kind of sick joke he might enjoy.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 09:01 AM
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21. Very interesting
I hope that when you get in touch with the BoE you don't give away your views on this matter. If this is what we suspect it might be, I can imagine that they may not want to be too cooperative with you. Or even worse, they may put you on some sort of list.

Good luck!
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 03:27 PM
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27. I might be able to contact a woman who works at the BoE in Cincy
who is a big Dem....she might know something about this.

Or I can play 'actress' for a day and visit this particular BoE....pretend I am 'rich pug' interested in how the voting machines work....
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 04:16 PM
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28. Those both sound like good ideas
Please let me know if you find out anything
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 08:48 PM
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35. What's that old song? "If I had a hammer, I'd hammer in the
morning, I'd hammer in the evening, all over this land. I'd hammer out danger, I'd hammer out a warning, I'd hammer out the guts between the screens and the modems, in black boxes, all over this land."

Or something like that anyway.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 09:08 PM
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36. Very good - we need you in Ohio
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SeaBob Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 09:20 PM
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39. Blackwell
NO
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 09:36 PM
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40. Blackwell shouldn't be running for Governor, he should be in JAIL! Sticker

www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable <--- sticker in here
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