Hellloooo AmeriKa! "US spells out plan to bomb Iran "!!! Wake Up!

[leftchick]

US spells out plan to bomb Iran

IAN BRUCE, Defence Correspondent May 16 2006
THE US is updating contingency plans for a non-nuclear strike to cripple Iran's atomic weapon programme if international diplomacy fails, Pentagon sources have confirmed.

Strategists are understood to have presented two options for pinpoint strikes using B2 bombers flying directly from bases in Missouri, Guam in the Pacific and Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean.
RAF Fairford in Gloucester also has facilities for B2s but this has been ruled out because of the UK's opposition to military action against Tehran.

The main plan calls for a rolling, five-day bombing campaign against 400 key targets in Iran, including 24 nuclear-related sites, 14 military airfields and radar installations, and Revolutionary Guard headquarters.

At least 75 targets in underground complexes would be attacked with waves of bunker-buster bombs.
Iranian radar networks and air defence bases would be struck by submarine-launched Tomahawk cruise missiles and then kept out of action by carrier aircraft flying from warships in the Indian Ocean and Persian Gulf.

The alternative to an all-out campaign is a demonstration strike against one or two high-profile targets such as the Natanz uranium enrichment facility or the hexafluoride gas plant at Isfahan.
UK sources say contingency plans have also been drawn up to cope with the inevitable backlash against the Basra garrison in neighbouring Iraq.

http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/62043.html

[Redstone]

1. Can you do me a favor, please? I'm asking nicely:

Can you please not use the "k" in the word America?

There are lots of us who still feel that it's OUR country, even if the lunatics are temporarily in charge. But we still believe in America, and I for one find the "k" substitution to be insulting.

It's still my country. And yours. Please treat its name with some respect.

Thank you.

Redstone

[leftchick]

5. it is aimed at the folks who are asleep

The kool aide drinkers and bushbots. Not you or I so do not take it personally.

[Redstone]

9. But the folks who are asleep aren't here at DU, are they?

Redstone

[leftchick]

10. I like to believe they lurk

and learn.

[Redstone]

11. Aha. So you're addressing THEM. Now I understand. And approve.

Anything that will grind THEIR grits, I'm in favor of it.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Redstone

[ChiciB1]

22. I Was Going To Reply To You Again.... But

I figured you might find it redundant! There are times when the kiddies are sleeping that we do things that they will learn about some day.

Really, you did know about the lurkers didn't you??

[Redstone]

23. Oh, of course I do. Just didn't understand that the OP was

talking to them, not to us.

Redstone

[ChiciB1]

30. Okey-Dokey!

Geez, I think I've done enough here at this thread! But I really really really would like to get some action going.

[katinmn]

13. It doesn't bother me at all. Our country is a disgrace

and fast becoming a fascist state. Why not acknowledge it?

[AuntiBush]

39. Really.

Well said, sadly, sadly so.

[bdamomma]

43. I just hope

that those reporters who are getting spied on NSA illegal database will finally wake up and know they are being targeted to.

[bbinacan]

24. Thank you for saying that. n/t

[malaise]

2. Who will save this planet from

the PNAC??? Help!!

[speedoo]

3. If that happens, we need an all-out impeachment effort.

Can't wait for a Democratic Congreess. Immediate action is required.

Screw the difficulty. Sometimes you have to just charge ahead.

[katinmn]

4. I'm awake! What do we do?

Damn, it feels so hopeless!

Congress has abdicated its responsibility. Half or more of the country is asleep.

Are there enough of us to storm the castle gates?

[leftchick]

6. I feel helpless too

:cry:

I imagine calls to congress won't help.

:(

[ChiciB1]

14. Well For About 999th Time I'm Going To Make This Comment

AGAIN! It's up to US!! We The People... they ain't gonna help us and we ain't gonna get their attention! We're still batting ZERO and because of this AND gerrymandering you can almost kiss '06 GOOD-BYE!

I realize that marching seems useless, but it's ALL WE HAVE. We need to organize, something I have NO qualifications for, but we need to march. We could call the march something like Taking Back America! Or Hear The Voice Of The People, Or Remember Us?? Something general enough that it won't scare the middle of the roadies, something that they will want to join us with. Just a simple message that says we've HAD ENOUGH!!

I see a post now and again talking about this, we get about 5 to 10 names and then NOTHING! What ARE we going to do?? Keep typing here at DU?? I don't have a big pocketbook, I live in an extremely red red red county in Florida and it's almost IMPOSSIBLE to get much going here. But I WOULD find some way to go to another march no matter what. If immigrants can get together to have their voices heard, I just don't see why there isn't some way we can do something like they did.

Surely, we have some here at DU with organizational skills, or connections with others who know how to get something like this off the ground. My husband and I care for his mother with Alzheimer's and have been for 7 years now, I don't go away from home much because of it, but I try to stay active in my community. But I just don't have connections to do something like this. I will participate though, somehow I WILL!!!

[leftchick]

16. we need 1968 all over again

College campuses and many other venues!

[ChiciB1]

18. How Well I Remember!!

Take Me Back, just take me back!

Still ACTION speaks louder than words!!

[speedoo]

19. There was a draft back then.

So the under thirty crowd had a stake. (on edit:)So much so that they basically led the movement. Without meaning to criticize anyone here, the under thirty crowd today does not have that kind of stake in this. Whether they care or not, I don't know. I know people in their 50's and 60's, and a few in their 40's and 30's. Only one or two in their 20's and they don't care. To small a sample for me to judge.

[ChiciB1]

27. I'm A Boomer... Had Friends Who Got Yanked & Died!

I married my husband when I was just a babe to keep him from getting drafted!! They had called him to take his physical and so we went to the Justice of the PEACE! We had to knock on the door of a judge after hours on a Friday night to sign the papers so we could get married the following Saturday! And don't ask how we're still married, there MUST have been something there cause I can tell you I WAS NOT READY!! I was just out of high school and headed for college!

I'm ready and willing... we can't just keep sitting here! We just CAN'T!!

EVERY SINGLE DAY... EVERY SINGLE DAY... it's something else! If WE don't get off our asses and do something, we are going to lose again. Hey, we might lose anyway considering election fraud, but I'd like to think we TRIED just ONE MORE TIME!!

[readmoreoften]

26. I teach on a major college campus.

The apathy is palpable. Most of the kids think that Bush is "wrong" if someone brings it up in class, but then we're all expected to allow "both sides" to state their case. There are few professors firing up the crowds.

Oh. That's another thing. There are few professors teaching

With 80% of academic jobs being taught be beleaguered grad students and adjuncts who make $3000 a course without benefits, there is no one teaching the undergraduates who can risk sending a strong message. Most high ranking faculty teach grad students almost exclusively.

The "enterprise university" model is turning higher ed into walmart and converting potentially progressive spaces into "starbucks environments"

Don't wait for the revolution to start on campus.

[ChiciB1]

28. I Realize It's A Problem... The Two-Side Thing... Still

we don't have to wait for campuses! We just need to DO IT!!

[leftchick]

29. when they are being conscripted

I expect a backlash.

[bobbieinok]

45. heard at a SWMLA conference...60%+ of all college students

are taught the basic courses (composition, etc) at community colleges, where the number of students in each class is quite high and full-time instructors teach 4-5 classes.......the person presenting this info called it 'outsourcing'of college instruction and said professors at prestige universities did not want to even hear about this

(I think the % was actually higher than 60%)

[mmonk]

15. We're along for the ride.

We have no voice, really.

[ChiciB1]

33. What Ride?? Theirs??

Let's Make It OURS! Am I really out in Left Field so far? While I have talked about it a lot, it really hit me hard when I saw that immigrants (and I have NOTHING AGAINST THEM) were able to organize and have so many HUGE marches in a VERY VERY short time.

Do we blame THEM or do we blame ourselves?? Sure, I know... they have us with the MONEY-CORPORATION-MEDIA stuff, but many Democrats have MONEY! I KNOW a lot in Congress do, so there have to be some more George Sorrels' out there. Aren't there?

[ContraBass Black]

7. Would they really tell us how they're going to do it beforehand?

[katinmn]

12. Yes, they've been leaking info about Iran for months now

Look how effective our opposition has been! They march forward. Congress nearly unanimously voted to stop the Iran regime. It is sick!

[leftchick]

17. My hope is

These people are leaking for a reason.

[ChiciB1]

20. Sorry.... I Put HOPE In My Four-Letter Word Column ...n/t

[BeyondThePale]

8. WTF? We have SOOO lost our way...

[Roland99]

21. China and Russia will be none too happy w/a US military strike

[lala_rawraw]

25. This jives with my piece too... :(

[mmonk]

35. Yes, it does.

[lala_rawraw]

40. I am really frustrated that no one is paying attention to this...

I have done about 4 articles or 5 on this and everyone is chasing scandal. I am very worried about what appears to be occuring:(

[mmonk]

44. Me too.

I wonder if people realize how this escalates everything. I'm quite bothered too, by the lack of response or outrage by people or even general fear of repercussions. I'm hoping someone will stand down orders if and when these plans are a go. Keep up your work.

[lala_rawraw]

47. Thanks... trying:)

[readmoreoften]

48. please keep following this

Iran is my top concern right now.

[leftchick]

51. I did not see your piece lala

I am sorry, could you give me a link?

[lala_rawraw]

54. sure

here you go:)

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/US_military_seen_ready_for_Iran_0511.html

[leftchick]

55. that is one of the scriest freakin articles I have read so far about Iran.

Thank you lala! Excellent reporting. This "immediate need" crap indicates to me they will force a situation to respond to with an attack, most likely the incident will be in the Gulf. Damn! Where in the hell are our representatives??? Dicking around with immigration and steroids?? :grr:

[mmonk]

56. When military and intelligence officials are concerned,

we all should be. That's why I'm hoping beyond hope someone will stand down. It's also an amazing bit of hypocrisy that the bush administration is using the MEK.

[leftchick]

57. I saw Sam Gardiner on Tweety's show about a month ago

He just out and out scared the hell out of me. And yes indeed using the MEK is just unfuckingbelievably criminal! I repeat! Where in the hell is congress? Dealing with Gay marriage?

:argh:

[mdmc]

31. Hello!

K/R

[stepnw1f]

32. Possibly The Begnning of WWIII

these people are sick and evil... here it should be light as day. The GOP will be responsible for touching off WWIII and they have already lost the wars they have already started in Iraq/Afghanistan.

[lonestarnot]

42. No that already happened, bushitler let that info slip last week or week

before.

[joe_shmoe]

34. **PETITION AGAINST MILITARY ACTION AGAINST IRAN**

It is with grave concern that I observe the growing threat of a new U.S. war--this time against the people of Iran.

For a collection of articles and resources on this subject you can visit this link: http://reseaudesign.com/research/iran/iran_summery.html

I'm starting up a petition which I will be sending out to as many members of Congress as possible. I'm asking for help to get this signed by as many people, possible in the next month. Send it to as many people you can.

http://www.petitiononline.com/n0war1rn/

[katinmn]

37. Thanks, joe. Yours isn't the first I've signed and won't be the last

But Congress isn't listening.

We've also had call-in days. Many of us have marched against Iran invasion, sent letters, faxes, sent letters to the editor.

But we are being ignored.

Petitions will not stop the PNACers.

[newyawker99]

53. Hi joe_shmoe!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[sweetheart]

36. Its ok, we need a world war

so that somebody will destroy washington and give us a new chance at freedom.

More power to those who want to erase the executive.. good luck to you... please
erase the entire government if you can be that accurate... they're not worth a shit,
so nobody will miss them. !

[AuntiBush]

38. God Help Us All.

Not in my name...

[mmonk]

41. Has anyone wondered with all the rumors, leaks,

rhetoric, plans, etc., concerning an attack on Iran what the purpose of putting it all out there for the world is?

[InaneAnanity]

46. If I were another country

Say, China, or Russia, and I was pissed off at the U.S. for attacking countries just for the hell of it, I would threaten to attack in the United States as retaliation.

I'm serious.

[SupplyConcerns]

49. My girlfriend will be in Iran this summer

Doing charity work. Damn... I've told her I'm worried but she's not in particular. She doesn't need to worry about people hating her for being American since she was born there and speaks Farsi fine. I'm just worried about our government, or Israel's.

[InaneAnanity]

50. Get her out

It's not if we go to war with Iran, it's when.

[katinmn]

52. Howard Zinn heard you, leftchick!

Interviewed by Shelly R. Fredman. The only answer is patience and continuing to disseminate information.

http://www.alternet.org/story/36330/

Howard Zinn on Fixing What's Wrong

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SF: Has the Left responded adequately to the kind of fascism we see coming from Bush's people? Street protests seem to be ineffective; it's sometimes disheartening.

HZ: The responses are never adequate, until they build and build and something changes. People very often think that there must be some magical tactic, beyond the traditional ones -- protests, demonstrations, vigils, civil disobedience -- but there is no magical panacea, only persistence in continuing and escalating the usual tactics of protest and resistance. The end of the Vietnam War did not come because the Left suddenly did something new and dramatic, but because all of the actions built up over time.

If you listen to the media, you get no sense of what's happening. I speak to groups of people in different parts of the country. I was in Austin, Texas recently and a thousand people showed up. I believe people are basically decent, they just lack information….

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SF: Where do you see the Democrats in all this? What of their role, their responsibility?

HZ: The Democratic Party is pitiful. Not only are they not articulating a spiritual message, as Lerner says, they don't even have a political message. The Democrats are tied to corporate wealth. And they are incompetent when it comes to understanding how to win elections. By the time Kerry ran, the public had actually shifted. Fifty percent were against the war. The Democrats should have been saying they would end the war, and make those dollars available for healthcare.

SF: What about the upcoming crop of presidential candidates -- Hillary Clinton, for instance?

HZ: Hillary Clinton is so opportunistic. She goes where the wind is blowing. She doesn't say what needs to be said. And Barack Obama is cautious. He's better than Clinton, but I'd suggest Marian Wright Edelman as the Democratic candidate for president. She's the epitome of what we need. A very smart black woman who deals with children, poverty…. She's in the trenches, and she ties it in with militarization. But she doesn't come out of government.

That's another problem -- the Democratic Party is a closed circle. It may take a threatening third party to shake things up.

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