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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 06:09 PM
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Did you hear Jim Mickleshefsky (sp!) on Hardball describe the actions
of the plane that hit the Pentagon? (I know I screwed up spelling his name, sorry.)

He said that plane flew very close to the top of a nearby hotel, then dipped down, leveled off, bounced on the ground a bit, and slammed into the Pentagon.

Now I not a pilot, but my son is an aircraft mech for a major airline. As far as I know, that kind of maneuver of a plane that big is IMPOSSIBLE!
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 06:13 PM
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1. Sounds like a needle impossible to thread
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 06:16 PM
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3. what's so tough about that? he was only going about
THREE HUNDRED FIFTY miles and hour! no sweat

those planes are real maneuverable, like. aeorobatic city, they are


piece of cake!
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 06:41 PM
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12. !
well paint me blue and throw me on the barn floor!
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 07:00 PM
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16. They said 500+ MPH, I thought
Too fast for all that, IMO.
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LA lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 06:15 PM
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2. many questions
I think DUer peacebird saw it happen. maybe she will come on and tell what she observed.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 06:18 PM
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4. "bounced on the ground" but didn't leave marks?
sure it did.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 06:19 PM
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5. If it "bounced" on the ground at the speed they are saying, wouldn't
it begin disintegrating and exploding before a building hit?
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 06:24 PM
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6. Not only THAT, it would have never hit the building.
The blast would have, but the plane wouldn't have "bounced" and rolled on the ground like a landing! I usually like the reports from Jim, but whoever gave him the technology on this story is, IMO, W A Y off the mark!
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 06:26 PM
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8. If you watch the video of the plane with the rudder and landing
gear problem from back in the early 90's in Kansas City. The one where the pilot managed to land it and half the passengers survived. If you watch that video, that plane is leaving a trail of fire and already becoming a HUGE fireball when it comes to rest. Something stinks here.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 07:49 PM
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19. I've seen this plane bounce on the ground before and not disintegrate...




So it might be possible. :sarcasm:
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 06:24 PM
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7. Did he say he actually saw it?
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 06:29 PM
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9. No the reporter did not see it, he said that was information given
to him. I don't recall who he said he got it from though. I want to say a Gov't dept like the NTSB, but I really don't remember what he said. I was busy repeating, "get out of here!" at all his descriptions!

BTW, the subject came up becasue Tweety said that it looked like that plane was at ground level in those new pictures. That was the explaination Jim gave in response to the question.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 06:37 PM
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11. I Didn't See A Plane On That Newly Released Video......
but if they tell you that there is a plane there - I guess we have to believe them. (sarcasm)
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 07:11 PM
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18. MSNBC enlarged the shots a bit, and circled the plane.
Remember these were still shots from some security cameras in the parking lot, so there's no video to follow. I couldn't see what they were claiming to be the nose cone of the plane in the one shot, but I did see what appeared to be the side of the fuselage in the second. The thing that appeared very odd to me is that it looked like it was actually at runway level...meaning one the ground. THAT I find impossible.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 07:01 PM
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17. he was on the other side of the Pentagon
He said he felt the building shake.
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 06:32 PM
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10. at 500+ miles per hour?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 06:44 PM
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13. The "coverage" I've seen by MSM seems to fall on side of
Conspiracy Theorists about "9/11" ...but I'm so shocked...I wonder if I can believe what my "lying eyes and ears" are telling me!

:shrug: The MSM seem to be leaving open a "door half ajar" to those of us who can't see the "Plane" in view of what caused the Pentagon Blast.

It leads to other questions about how could a bunch of cobbled together Arabs have had the EXPERIENCE and COMPETENCE necessary to FLY PLANES into all these USA Targets? :shrug:

My SIL is an Airline Pilot and a Bush Bot...but even HE sent me a question wondering why the photo's of Pentagon just don't show a PLANE?

:shrug: So many questions unanswered. But the MSM seems to finally utter the phrase "Conspiracy Theory!"
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 06:46 PM
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14. Sounds like the magic bullet theory
one bullet made all that damange.....
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 06:50 PM
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15. Bingo...and this is the new Zapruder film
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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 07:50 PM
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20. Full Explanation Here
www.reopen911.org

Order your free DVD and watch the second program. It describes all the physics. Yes, Mick's explanation is impossible and definitely would leave marks. According to the Pentagon's story, there should have been luggage and body parts, too. None!
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