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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 01:12 PM
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Controversial Experimental Weather Modification Bill in US Congress


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EXPERIMENTAL WEATHER MODIFICATION BILL FAST TRACKING FOR PASSAGE IN U.S. SENATE & HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

U.S. Senate Bill 517 and U.S. House Bill 2995, a bill that would allow experimental weather modification by artificial methods and implement a national weather modification policy, does not include agriculture or public oversight, is on the “fast track” to be passed in 2006.

This bill is designed to implement experimental weather modification. The appointed Board of Directors established by this bill does not include any agricultural, water, EPA, or public representatives, and has no provisions for Congressional, State, County, or public oversight of their actions or expenditures.

Weather Modification may adversely impact agricultural crops and water supplies. If the weather is changed in one state, region or county it may have severe consequences in another region, state or county. And who is going to decide the type of weather modification experimentation and who it will benefit or adversely impact?

This experimental weather modification bill will impact residents across the United States not just in California. Many current and ongoing weather modification programs (80 listed by NOAA in 2005), including the one in Wyoming that is designed to increase the snowpack, may be diverting rainwater away from Oklahoma and Texas, two states that are currently fighting fires caused by a lack of rainfall. We have no idea what the unintended consequences of the Wyoming action or other experimental weather modification programs might be now or in the future.

In addition to the experimental weather modification programs listed by NOAA, there are both private and ongoing government sponsored atmospheric testing and heating programs underway in Alaska and across the United States. Alaska Senator Stevens recently received $50 million in funding for Alaska’s atmospheric heating program.

All of these unregulated, private, government, and public weather modification programs, may also have unintended synergistic effects. Senate Bill 517 does not address these issues but intends to implement more experimental weather modification programs without a national debate or public oversight.
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Stevens got $50 million to mess with the weather!!!!!!!!!! the bridge to nowhere man?? the criminal Stevens is going to mess with the weather.

maybe it's the mercury in seafood affecting their brains...something is
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Boomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 01:14 PM
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1. As if we haven't caused enough climate damage already
n/t
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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 01:17 PM
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2. Tesla rises!
What's up with HAARP these days?
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 01:18 PM
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3. Does this have anything to do with HAARP?
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 01:33 PM
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9. Not bloody likely.
The whole HAARP weather modification/mind control/energy weapons/take your pick theory is pretty well bunk. No respectable scientist will say that any of these things are even remotely possible.

If anything, HAARP is basically just an excuse for Ted Stevens to pour money into Alaska.

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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 01:49 PM
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12. So the US Government has spent millions of dollars for nothing?
They've been dumping money into this project for a long time.

And who cares what "respectable scientists" say about HAARP? Unless they are working there they have no idea.

I have no idea of what they are doing. You have no idea.

WTF are they doing?
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 05:05 PM
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13. You think that that's a new phenomenon?
During the Cold War, the military spent quite a lot of money on trying to locate Soviet submarines using psychics and remote imaging. Or the CIA program where they fed LSD to brothel patrons to see what would happen. A lot of experimental research and development involves doing something unusual and seeing if you can accomplish something with it. Doubly so for the military.

And by the way, all the details of HAARP are public knowledge, and the place is partially run by the University of Alaska, with 13 other universities contributing to the project and its development. They even have even open house days, where the general public can visit the facility, and they have summer classes there for school kids. So why shouldn't scientists render an expert opinion based on the known facts?

HAARP is basically a giant High Frequency transmitter with an Effective Radiated Power of just under 4 gigawatts. Powerful, but not something that can mix up hurricanes just because. The stated purpose is to create temporary altered states in the energy of the ionosphere in order to observe the effects, particularly on radio waves, with an eye towards possibly finding ways to increase the reliability of satellite communication links.

Even the few scientists who originally suggested that HAARP could be used for military purposes were talking about a future development of the technology, not anything we have now, and only for use against hostile satellites--nothing to do with weather control.

Those people who talk about things like weather control don't apprecciate the massive difficulty of such a feat. Weather is, in effect, an ultra-chaotic system which would need incredibly fine-level control in order to produce a given result. Sure, we can influence the weather, by things like cloud seeding, or how much water is available, or by development. But actually controlling the weather would be kind of like reprogramming a desktop PC by using an iron filing to write on the hard drive.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 09:48 PM
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14. USAF wants to 'own the weather' by 2012. They're well on their
way with HAARP, chemtrails, etc. Why this is coming out in a public bill I have no idea.

My ex-husband's roommate worked on the "star wars" docket at the patent and trademark office, where all of the cool and verrrry secret weather modification and other weapons patent apps came. You think there's not ways to do it? Think again.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 01:18 PM
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4. Maybe this is what Gore was speaking of in his SNL speech.
Sarcasm ON.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 01:19 PM
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5. They already created a governing board for it last October
Kay Bailey Hutchinson carried that one.
No discussion at all.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 01:21 PM
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6. This Is An Item Of Monumental Un-Importance, Ma'am
It referes to cloud-seeding, which is a pretty old thing.

A budget of fifty millions over a term of years is the Federal equivalent of the loose change among the couch cushions, and betokens a complete lack of serious interest in the matter. It is a mere ear-mark, rewarding and subsidizing some small academic faction.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 01:26 PM
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8. you wish
nt
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 01:42 PM
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10. Not Wish, Ma'am: Know
This is neither new, nor a ground upon which fantasies of concocting hurricanes and the like can be securely erected.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 01:24 PM
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7. Godzilla! They will release Godzilla!
Oh no, they say he's got to go... go, go Godzilla!

History shows again and again how nature points out the folly of men!
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 01:46 PM
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11. yeah. we can't even predict weather out more than a few days
But we're going to control it soon. Gimme a break.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 09:55 PM
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15. That's the genius of it!
If you can't predict it, you won't know when they've failed or succeeded. :tinfoilhat:
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