Sensenbrenner wants ISPs to snoop on us

[undeterred]

A prominent Republican on Capitol Hill has prepared legislation that would rewrite Internet privacy rules by requiring that logs of Americans' online activities be stored, CNET News.com has learned.

The proposal comes just weeks after Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said Internet service providers should retain records of user activities for a "reasonable amount of time," a move that represented a dramatic shift in the Bush administration's views on privacy. Wisconsin Rep. F. James Sensenbrenner, the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, is proposing that ISPs be required to record information about Americans' online activities so that police can more easily "conduct criminal investigations." Executives at companies that fail to comply would be fined and imprisoned for up to one year.

In addition, Sensenbrenner's legislation--expected to be announced as early as this week--also would create a federal felony targeted at bloggers, search engines, e-mail service providers and many other Web sites. It's aimed at any site that might have "reason to believe" it facilitates access to child pornography--through hyperlinks or a discussion forum, for instance.

Speaking to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children last month, Gonzales warned of the dangers of pedophiles using the Internet anonymously and called for new laws from Congress. "At the most basic level, the Internet is used as a tool for sending and receiving large amounts of child pornography on a relatively anonymous basis," Gonzales said.

http://news.com.com/Congress+may+make+ISPs+snoop+on+you/2100-1028_3-6072601.html

Had enough? Support Sensenbrenner challenger Bryan Kennedy at www.bk2006.org

[marmar]

1. I really hate that man....

:argh:

[C_U_L8R]

2. I think we should demand

video cameras in every room of nonSensenbrenners home
and they should stream out onto the internet 24/7.
He has nothing to hide.. right??? Right???

[marmar]

4. Would you really want to see Sensenbrenner...

in various states of undress?

:puke:

[ShortnFiery]

3. I made the mistake of ...

pausing on "FOX and Friends" as I was channel surfing this A.M.

Get this ---> Having an micro-chip permanently implanted within one's body was referred by one of the pod people on FOX and Friends as, "It's just like having a string on your finger that you never lose. :wow:" OMFG My eyes bugged out of my head upon hearing this - just like in the cartoons. :wow: :scared:

[Supersedeas]

12. not surprising from the FAUX and Freeps

[SammyWinstonJack]

23. Is the string attached a spy network?

This faux sNews people are idiots if they think anyone......oh nevermind. :crazy:

[Minnesota Libra]

5. What people don't realize is ISPs can and do spy on us now...............

....so the only difference will be that the government is making it official. People don't realize just how much of a dictatorship government we've existed under for years now. This kind of thing went on under Nixon but the laws weren't there to support and make it all legal. Now those laws exist and are being used regularly.

Do I like it?? Hell no!! But neither party has any interest in stopping this any time soon. So unless EVERY ONE OF US want to take to the streets every day of our lives we'd better get used to it.

[undeterred]

6. It always starts out with some noble purpose like stopping child porn

but we all know that it will be used to shut down discussions like the ones we have at DU.

[Minnesota Libra]

9. Exactly!! We've been warned so often about how good intentions...........

....can get out of hand and we are unfortunately living the hellish side of those warnings now.

[simonm]

13. I work at a small ISP

We log mostly ip connections in our network and ignore the rest like news and web sites. It is a good way to avoid privacy issues and law enforcement cannot ask for something that doesn't exist. The logistics of logging everyone's browsing habit would also be a nightmare.

We don't watch users unless there is a good reason like attempting to hack our network. Some ISPs may not be as liberal as ours.

[undeterred]

15. I work as a network admin

We have the tools to monitor email, web surfing, printing, you name it (posting on DU during working hours!) but we only use it very selectively, when there is a problem with an employee.

[MadHound]

17. And that's another, unspoken purpose of this bill

To make operation costs so high that it drives the little providers out of business, leaving the field clear in order for the big corporations to consolidate into only handful of companies.

[undeterred]

26. to take the most inherently democratic tool of out time

the internet - and strip it of democracy

[sweetheart]

7. i'd have paid cash to see the look on that face..

as the mob hauls him out of the bastille, cuts his legs off, roasts them and feeds
them to him and his family in a twist on the "american beauty" supper.

All after a proper trial and all, and a hanging for dessert.

/french revolution off

[TheCowsCameHome]

8. Talk about slippery slopes......................

[NNN0LHI]

10. This guy would have made a fine Nazi n/t

[TheCowsCameHome]

11. Even his name has that certain "ring" to it.

[treestar]

14. Yeah, maybe they can discover the patterns of terrorist web surfing

just like the patterns of terrorist phone calling.

Stupid bastards.

[DarleenMB]

16. I just sent him an email:

Congressman:

I just read this article:

"Wisconsin Rep. F. James Sensenbrenner, the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, is proposing that ISPs be required to record information about Americans' online activities so that police can more easily "conduct criminal investigations." Executives at companies that fail to comply would be fined and imprisoned for up to one year.

In addition, Sensenbrenner's legislation--expected to be announced as early as this week--also would create a federal felony targeted at bloggers, search engines, e-mail service providers and many other Web sites. It's aimed at any site that might have "reason to believe" it facilitates access to child pornography--through hyperlinks or a discussion forum, for instance.

And want to remind you exactly WHO it is you are supposed to be working for... WE THE PEOPLE.

I seriously doubt the good people of Wisconsin sent you to Washington to turn our government into Big Brother.

Fighting child pornography on the web is merely a smoke screen and don't think, for one single moment, that the citizens of the United States don't see right through it.

I strongly urge you to step up, do what's right, and pull this horrific piece of SPYWARE now."

Not that I think he'll pay any attention to someone from out of state, let alone one of his "constituent" but if we don't speak up they'll never hear us.

[undeterred]

18. Good for you

I am in WI but not in his district- but I feel he is an embarrassment to WI at best and a real danger to the country.

[Triana]

19. the use of this for child porn is a pretentious ruse...

....don't buy it. They want it to spy on their political opponents and average citizens. It has nothing to do with porn.

Question: WHAT LAWS or rules will be in place, monitored, and enforced (and who and how will they monitor and enforce them?) that will keep them from ABUSING this technology for their own political ends?

Answer: NONE. The few that are in place now, they are trying to tear down so they can do as they damn well please.

This is NOT good. The child porn excuse is just that. An excuse. JUST LIKE claiming Iraq had WMD and al Queda ties was an excuse to invade.

LIES
LIES
LIES

More pretentious lies.

Not buying it.
Not swallowing it.

[KharmaTrain]

24. Ya Think A Repugnican Would Be Honest????

Since these asshats have gotten where they're at by lying, cheating and decieving, why should they stop now?

It's the same game...pedophiles are the strawman to shut down or harass critics with ambiguously written laws that can be selectively applied. No different than asshat always using 9/11 and the "war on terror" as a means to dismantle the Constitution.

Of course none of us have anything to fear from this government :sarcasm:...they wouldn't use that data to spy on someone who said something that didn't give with the Rovian spin...now would they? I wonder if ABC News will see it that way.

[Marr]

20. Introducing this while the public is becoming aware of the NSA's phone

spying is amazingly audacious- or just stupid.

This needs to be tied to the Bush Administration's illegal spying. They'l try to make it about pornography, but don't let them- it's about spying. It's clearly part of the same agenda- Sensenbrenner's just trying to make this part of it legal. This is something that can be shut down by public outrage before it passes.

[Jack Rabbit]

21. Concerning the foot of your post

I'm just curious.

How safe is Stensenbrenner's seat? What are the chances he can be unseated in November?

This yuppie fascist has got to go.

[undeterred]

25. Its a tough race

Sensenbrenner is a 28 year incumbent. Bryan Kennedy ran against him in 2004 and got 1/3 of the vote, which is better than anyone who has run against Sensenbrenner before has done.

The district is mostly Republican, but it has voted for two Democratic Senators, Kohl and Feingold, so it is possible for a Dem to win.

Kennedy is a terrific candidate- but this is a grassroots operation running against a very wealthy man. Contribute if you can!

[Janice325]

22. Pedophilia and pornography?

I think not.
They're afraid and want to shut us down.