I think Il Dunce helped us tonight.

[babylonsister]

He had to attempt to find a middle ground for everyone, and it's becoming increasingly apparent that no one is happy, but me/us! :evilgrin:
First bit of advice has been for ages, blivet: stay away from TV's!

[tsuki]

1. I'm not happy, and if Mama's not happy,

nobody's happy.:evilgrin:

[babylonsister]

4. You aren't happy because of what he said, or what he didn't say,

or what he should have said, or... who's Mama? :crazy:

[tsuki]

15. Because he has any say. W=Worst.

[lonestarnot]

7. Howdy tsuki! I'm sure as hell not happy tonight!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1199957&mesg_id=1199957

[tsuki]

16. With a Texas repuke? How did he keep his mouth shut long

enough to convince her to run off with him?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. He's really stuck this time.

No matter what kind of immigration plan he comes up with, there's no way he can avoid pissing off the corporatists on one hand, or the racists on the other. And both of these groups are big parts of his base.

Sucks to be you, George.

[catnhatnh]

3. Yep....

On point-his speech could not increase his support anywhere across the spectrum,but could,and probably did hurt him....Best proof I've seen yet that Karl is distracted....

[havocmom]

5. I worry sending neutered Guard to the border may hurt DEM govs in AZ & NM

No way the guard, without guns or arrest authority, can do a damn thing. BUT, they will be put there under the command of the governors of the states to which they are sent. So, when the flow of illegal aliens does not stop, it will be blamed on those governors...
Janet Napolitano (D - AZ) and Bill Richardson (D - NM)

Watch, it will be used against those two good governors.

To really deal with the problem, illegal EMPLOYERS need to be dealt with HARSHLY. Failure to do that will assure they will continue to dangle the carrot of hope for the desperately poor in Mexico. Guards without guns will not slow the flow. DEM govs will be scape-goats.

[lonestarnot]

8. Nah we won't let Janet take the rap here in AZ. He's down to 39 or some'n

here.

[havocmom]

9. Good luck with your wingers there. They will make a run at her

I think she is great! Used to live there and know she's the best gov in a long time.

[lonestarnot]

11. Thanks for the good luck wishes. Absolutely the best in a very

embarrassingly long time.

[blonndee]

14. Won't work in NM, IMO. I'm a native New Mexican

and I betcha Bill will do something good with this. Plus, NMicans are savvy about this kind of stuff.

[woodsprite]

6. I'm feeling like America is sunk and that its gone too far that

there is no help to be found. Just really down tonight, especially after hearing the chimp and cohorts talk.

[babylonsister]

10. I felt the same way earlier after seeing a man on Ava's thread

holding up a picture of his son in a coffin.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1196016

After I cried, I got angry. Ava is all of 15 years old and has done so much to bring the fight to me!

[C_U_L8R]

12. i didn't see one heartfelt endorsement

of Bush's program.. no regular republican commentator
would stand up for the chimp. Sure they brought on a few
unknown bots to spew the talking points... but none of
the pros would have anything to do with it.

Bush is officially free-falling

[babylonsister]

13. So, he helped us! He's an official non-entitty!

:evilgrin: