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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 08:49 PM
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DAILY Show NOT GOOD FOR YOUNG VOTERS
Who is this "SAGE publications"? Wondering about any report that says colbert or stewart are detrimental in any way.


http://www.rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eurekalert.org%2Fpub_releases%2F2006-05%2Fsp-tds051206.php

The Daily Show affects young voters
Research reported in SAGE's American Politics Research

According to a recent study published in the May issue of SAGE Publications' journal, American Politics Research, researchers conclude that young Americans' political views are negatively impacted by watching the popular The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, which airs late night on Comedy Central as a 'fake-news program.'



:tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat:


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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 08:51 PM
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1. This is such bullshit.
The Daily Show is comedy. Who the HELL is this "Sage Group"? Funded by Scaife?
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 08:52 PM
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2. Negative Impact ??
Edited on Mon May-15-06 08:52 PM by C_U_L8R
You mean they don't respect authority anymore ??
Your authority???

All I can say is ... GOOD.
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Dave Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 08:53 PM
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3. I think this paragraph, and the conclusion therein,
is a leap of logic that I would not attempt with a trampoline AND a vaulting pole.

"If young Americans learn about candidates via Jon Stewart," the researchers conclude in the article, "it is possible that unfavorable perceptions of both parties' nominees could form, ultimately keeping more youth from the polls." These implications for political participation should be explored further.

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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 08:58 PM
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8. "Unfavorable impressions of both parties"
Would happen only if half the people he made fun of had "D's" next to their names....You think that young Americans are too stupid to realize that like Ivory soap,99 and 44/100th percent of the assholes lampooned on the show sport "R's"???
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 08:53 PM
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4. I call bullshit on this too
I'm more politically educated than most people I know, yet I still learn more from the Daily Show than I do from the MSM.
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godhatesrepublicans Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 08:55 PM
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5. Again, people miss the REAL point....
...that The Daily Show is bad for the image of politicians who LIE THEIR ASSES OFF AND HOPE NO ONE IS SMART ENOUGH TO NOTICE.

Maybe the crop of national Dems in '08 will endeavor to be less full of crap.
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The Jacobin Donating Member (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 08:56 PM
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6. Google. Its a web site. Use it.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 08:57 PM
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7. What a steaming pile of shit!
Edited on Mon May-15-06 08:57 PM by LostInAnomie
"If young Americans learn about candidates via Jon Stewart," the researchers conclude in the article, "it is possible that unfavorable perceptions of both parties' nominees could form, ultimately keeping more youth from the polls."

By making its viewers more informed and skeptical of the bullshit our "leaders" try to shove in our faces the Daily Show is harming us? Bullshit! Maybe our parties should quit nominating such disingenuous assholes and nominate candidates with genuine ideas.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 09:00 PM
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9. And they are not negatively impacted by FOX news?
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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 09:05 PM
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10. Like many here, I grew up with....
SNL, firesign theater, monty python, woody allen, lenny bruce, richard pryor, george carlin, tom leher, mad magazine, 2nd city, etc ... those in the last 1/2 of the 20th century who revolutionized comedy by walking that fine line between entertainment and activist commentary. For all of the criticism and scrutiny from the "establishment" Not ONCE do I remember any one of these icons being described as being detrimental because they might cause cynicism and voter apathy among young voters.

This really sounds like a scary piece of propoganda.

and again with the:

:tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 09:15 PM
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12. I miss the days of good political satire
but thank god for Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert.

May they inspire a hundred more.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 10:03 PM
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20. hey! where in Virginia?
you can't get there from here
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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 10:56 PM
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26. hey! williamsburg here n/t
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joeunderdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 09:07 PM
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11. It's true. The negative impact is real. I have it, too.
Anyone paying attention should have it.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 09:18 PM
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13. Oh, please, I grew up on Ned Sherrin
and That Was The Week That Was, and I turned out....well, er, ah....

Well, anyway, who says a little cynicism isn't good for a kid? I'd much prefer a bunch of bitter and cynical kids who question everything and everybody than the fucking gullible twits who believe in Mom and apple pie and the vast benevolence of the Repuglican Party.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 09:19 PM
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14. I did a little digging on SAGE Publications for an earlier OP on this
and found this interesting tidbit on the Editor, James G Gimpel:

snip

In Spring of 1989, having completed my coursework, I left the University of Chicago to take a job in the US Senate with the office of newly appointed Senator Daniel R. Coats (R-IN). The job in Coats' office was the most intense experience of my life, partly because he had to run two US Senate elections in the space of just four years. He survived both elections then retired from the US Senate in 1999 (his seat is now occupied by Evan Bayh). Coats was appointed US Ambassador to Germany by President George W. Bush, and served in that position from 2001 to 2005.

Although it almost killed me, I did manage to finish my dissertation while working on the Hill, taking my degree in August of 1990. With the pressures of Capitol Hill life gradually taking their toll on my mental and physical health, I decided to leave the legislative branch in 1991, taking a job in the executive branch working for Assistant Secretary John Weicher at the Department of Housing and Urban Development.

http://www.bsos.umd.edu/gvpt/gimpel/html/biography.html

I didn't know which administration Assistant Secretary John Weicher owed his allegance to so did some homework on that aspect as well and this is what I found:

From: George W Bush, Resources for the President's Team:

John Weicher -- Department of Housing and Urban Development
Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development (Federal Housing Commissioner)

Most recently, John Weicher was a Senior Fellow and Director of Urban Studies at the Hudson Institute. Previously, he served as Assistant Secretary for Policy Development and Research at HUD from 1989 to 1993. He was Associate Director of Economic Policy at the Office of Management and Budget from 1987 to 1989 and was Deputy Assistant Secretary for Economic Affairs at HUD from 1975 to 1977. John is a graduate of the University of Michigan and received his Ph.D. from the University of Chicago.


http://www.whitehouse.gov/results/leadership/bio_451.ht...

Gosh, I am no longer wondering why "researchers conclude that young Americans' political views are negatively impacted by watching the popular The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, which airs late night on Comedy Central as a 'fake-news program.'"


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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 09:59 PM
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16. See, This is why I love it here at DU!
:bounce: :bounce: :hi: :hi: :hi: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :yourock:


We're all about the research!

Thanks much!
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 10:05 PM
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21. You're very welcome, I thought the conclusions of this 'study'
smelled so my curiosity got the best of me, lol.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 09:21 PM
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15. Neither was The Smothers Brothers Show. Neither was Laugh-In.
Neither was Monty Python. Neither was...well, you git the BIG PITCHER (on Steroids, of course.)

Because I must... :sarcasm:
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joeunderdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 10:18 PM
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24. Neither were swiftboat commercials and we didn't have to spend a nickel
to (ehem) "research" that one. For that matter, anyone seen a kid or adult feeling all warm and fuzzy after watching Chimp's speech tonight?
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 10:01 PM
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17. Means they vote Democratic instead of Republican.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 10:03 PM
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18. Here! Grasp at this instead!
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 10:06 PM
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22. a ***** by any other name would smell as sweet? the nose knows
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 10:03 PM
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19. HAHA! "their views of the political system as a whole were more cynical."
Edited on Mon May-15-06 10:03 PM by Marr
No shit! That's called being informed!

You show me someone who's happy with the political situation in this country and I'll show you an misinformed, brainwashed moron.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 10:11 PM
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23. Cynicism means vigilance.
The price of freedom is constant vigilance.

Can't remember where I heard that - must have been some Commie Pinko.

Oh, wait a minute, that justifies wire-tapping!

Bush and the NSA is vigilante so you don't have to be! How convenient!

Oh, by the way:
:sarcasm:
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RedCappedBandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 10:42 PM
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25. rofl
Give me a break
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 10:58 PM
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27. Hey, I found that news story first before Raw Story and put it here
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 10:59 PM
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28. a jolly hoedown hosted by that Bush impersonator, perhaps?
That's the kind of "comedy show" that would meet their approval. If learning to ask questions about policy issues, and holding elected representatives accountable, is "not good" and has a "negative impact", I'm afraid to see what they have in mind instead!

Maybe things wouldn't be so "negative" if the administration weren't taking the USA to hell in a handbasket, hmm?
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