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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 07:21 PM
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ID cards... watch out it is coming for all of us
Edited on Mon May-15-06 07:27 PM by greenbriar
First They Came for the Jews
First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.


Pastor Martin Niemöller




Edit to add to today's climate

First Bush and Gonzales came for the terrorists, but I was not a terrorist, so I did not speak out. Then they came for the enemy combatants, but I was not a combatant, so I did not object. Then they came for the protestors resisting "free speech zones" near Bush campaign rallies, but I was not a protestor and so I only voiced my unease.

If we - and our elected representatives - do not speak out now, loudly and forcefully

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0110-33.htm

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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 07:23 PM
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1. Just wait...
the ID cards will prefix with the number 666...
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 07:25 PM
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2. I believe it is quite possible
and that scares me
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 07:29 PM
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6. Did you see the History Channel
yesterday? They were promoting the new Omen movie so they had a day long back to back shows on the Anti-Christ and the end of times......I love the History Channel but got kinda spooked.. :scared:
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 07:51 PM
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10. I missed that
but I admit I would be spooked
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 07:28 PM
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4. found this looking for the original
quite stunning
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 07:27 PM
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3. I dont like it
This will make it easier to keep us all under control...
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 10:03 AM
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27. Hi jasonc!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 07:28 PM
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5. Fundies are going to be very upset!!!
I can't wait!!! They created this fucking monster and they can now eat the fucker!
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 07:58 PM
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14. That's funny as hell!
I told a fundie I worked with, right after W's inauguration and the fundie's "victory lap" around the office, that I was going to blame all of W's evil on him and that he can't come crying to anyone when W forces him to take the mark of the beast. I hope he remembers that day:)
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 08:36 PM
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20. I can't for his responds!!!
You should fucking rib it in... I TOLD YOU SO!!! LOL
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 11:06 PM
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21. if it wasn't so scary
It would be fun to rub it in,


but it is not funny
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 07:29 PM
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7. I thought of that same statement when I read your subject line...
I can hear someone asking for my papers, just like the Nazis. It's getting so scary.
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 07:33 PM
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8. I agree
scary
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 07:34 PM
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9. I ain't gonna get panicked until they tatoo my arm.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 07:53 PM
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11. by then it's too late
panic now, while you still can
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 07:53 PM
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12. I think then it may be too late
:(
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 08:00 PM
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15. Tattoos are too easily altered... I'm betting we get chips...
Like a dog.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 08:10 PM
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16. Yep. It'll be chips.

I believe that I have lived during the best years of the United States. I believe the US will barely be recognizable in another 15-20 years. Holy crap, maybe 5-10. :mad:
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 08:18 PM
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17. I'll see your 5-10..,
and up you 1.5 to 3.

I lived some good times here too. Quite frankly, I wasn't this scared when the teacher taught me to duck and cover... or when I got Viet Nam death counts as a side dish to the evening meal. I am more terrified now than I was on 9/11/01, because I know the enemy and he/they are on the inside. On 9/11 we at least felt we had each other and the USA to back us up. Now we are just screwed... no lube, no kiss.
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 08:18 PM
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18. too true
sad
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 12:08 AM
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23. how do those chips stand up to EMP...?
nobody's tagging me with anything. ever.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 12:15 AM
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26. As much as they would like that to happen, too many people
would be way, WAY too pissed off.

Maybe it should be officially floated as an idea, just so that particular truth can be proven.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 07:50 PM
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28. Way too many people are pissed off about the wars
And the lies... and both are still happening.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 07:55 PM
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13. We will have to prove that we are not illegal aliens.
just as we now are guilty of terrorism until proven innocent.
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Conker Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 08:29 PM
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19. Yeah, things are really bad now.Too bad all of us liberals can't just...
leave the U.S. and leave all the problems to the conservatives.That way they can clean up the mess they created.
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ekelly Donating Member (303 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 12:05 AM
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22. Biometric ID cards ONLY for guest workers?
I think not.
On it's face, it can't work.

Job Seeker #1:

Guest Worker
Applies for a job
Presents guest worker papers and bio ID card.
Employer verifies he is eligible to work in the USA.



Job Seeker #2:

Illegal Immigrant
Applies for job
Presents forged driver license, SS card, etc
Employer has no way of knowing whether those documents are authentic or forged.



Job Seeker #3:

American Citizen.
Applies for a job
Presents driver license, SS card, etc
Employer has no way of knowing whether those documents are authentic or forged.

This does not solve the problem of forged documents by illegal immigrants or anyone else.
The only way a bio ID card would work is if EVERYONE seeking work in this country has one.

The whole thing is a bad, bad idea!!!!!!!!!!!


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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 12:12 AM
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25. Yup.
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 08:05 PM
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29. exactly my point!!! WE better speak up NOW>>>>>>>>>>>
Job Seeker #3:

American Citizen.
Applies for a job
Presents driver license, SS card, etc
Employer has no way of knowing whether those documents are authentic or forged.

This does not solve the problem of forged documents by illegal immigrants or anyone else.
The only way a bio ID card would work is if EVERYONE seeking work in this country has one.

The whole thing is a bad, bad idea!!!!!!!!!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 12:10 AM
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24. Emailed my senators:
"Tell fascist George to take his "tamper-proof identity card" and stuff it up his ass.

IDENTITY CARDS!!!?????

AND YOU STILL DON'T HAVE THE GUTS TO IMPEACH????"
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