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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 10:08 AM Original message |
New Journalism 101 |
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titoresque (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
1. I trust Truthout! |
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(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
2. I remember when the tsunami hit Indonesia on the weekend - the major |
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Pithy Cherub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 10:24 AM Response to Reply #2 |
10. Exactly! the msm pretends they were on it right away, nope |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 01:26 PM Response to Reply #10 |
76. yeah, people opening their holiday presents... |
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Pithy Cherub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 02:23 PM Response to Reply #76 |
82. Yep, they should have been covering it |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 04:45 PM Response to Reply #76 |
89. Christmas was on a Saturday that year - no one would have |
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linazelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-21-06 11:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
113. You're right, I remember thinking Pfucket was a new curse word |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
3. I'd wait twenty years for this story |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 11:30 AM Response to Reply #3 |
100. 20 business years? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
4. What are you doing away from that keyhole? |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
5. Monday is D-day for Jason Leopold's credibility.... |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 10:22 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. It may not happen on Monday |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 10:25 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Thanks for that reminder Will. |
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Taxloss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 10:30 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. What's the statute of limitations on that? |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 10:33 AM Response to Reply #8 |
17. agreed, but you must admit that predicting future events becomes less... |
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Maddy McCall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 04:38 PM Response to Reply #8 |
87. Monday isn't the important date. May 12 is. That's the day Leopold said.. |
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Snivi Yllom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 10:57 AM Response to Reply #87 |
95. the date is not really relevant |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 11:04 AM Response to Reply #8 |
98. I hope the story is accurate |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 11:26 AM Response to Reply #8 |
99. Some of us are being played on this issue |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 10:25 AM Response to Reply #5 |
12. You might consider that this kind of false dilemma |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 10:37 AM Response to Reply #12 |
20. good point, and I don't want to be perceived as being critical... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 11:11 AM Response to Reply #20 |
30. True. We've been immersed so long in Bushspeak that it's |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 10:45 AM Response to Reply #5 |
23. Why is Monday D-Day? |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 11:20 AM Response to Reply #5 |
34. I sure Jason knows how much his cred is on the line, |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 12:40 PM Response to Reply #34 |
59. Wow, so, if by chance, Leopold turns out to be wrong or not 100% |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 12:45 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. Remember Wayne Madsen? nt |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 12:49 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. I do remember the Madsen episode (somewhat), your point? |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 01:08 PM Response to Reply #65 |
71. Madsen had excellent credentials, but unfortunately printed |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 01:15 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. No doubt, breaking a story carries risks--no matter how |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 01:42 PM Response to Reply #73 |
80. I can agree with that, especially considering the history of |
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CornField (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 01:01 PM Response to Reply #59 |
69. A little OT |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 01:17 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. LOL |
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Snivi Yllom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 10:55 AM Response to Reply #5 |
94. they are record Rove already has been indicted |
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Pithy Cherub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
6. Reviving journalism one big story at a time by a real journalist. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
7. "I didn't believe until I saw it on tv"- quote from student interviewed |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
9. Self delete - wrong place. n/t |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
13. Newt Journalism 909 .... |
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 11:24 AM Response to Reply #13 |
37. LOL! Now that's a real, old-fashioned knee-slapper H2O Man... |
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catnhatnh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
15. I trust both you and Leopold...... |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
16. Tweety was panting heavily on Imus Friday morning alluding that something |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
18. As long as you post your unsubstantiated stories on GD instead of LBN |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 10:35 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Find for me please |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 10:48 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. I confused your truthout threads with |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 10:53 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. You mean |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 11:09 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Deleted message |
Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 10:27 PM Response to Reply #26 |
90. That's actually Bob Dole. His jagoff hand is inoperative. |
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catnhatnh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 11:23 AM Response to Reply #24 |
36. July '04???? |
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foo_bar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 10:55 AM Response to Reply #19 |
27. does a link count? |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 10:57 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Almost two years old |
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foo_bar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 11:46 AM Response to Reply #28 |
48. no point except "here's the thing you asked for" |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 01:09 PM Response to Reply #18 |
72. Why so apparently combative towards Will Pitt, brentspeak? |
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marions ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 02:15 PM Response to Reply #72 |
81. to the point |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
21. well said |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
22. we worry all the time here about national coverage. rightly so |
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fed-up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
25. def of WINKLED below (for those of us that never heard the term before) |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 11:26 AM Response to Reply #25 |
40. Thanks fer sussing that out for us |
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CornField (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
31. Man, this whole scene is getting nastier and nastier... |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 11:28 AM Response to Reply #31 |
41. Thank you. |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 11:29 AM Response to Reply #31 |
42. 100% incorrect |
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CornField (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 11:51 AM Response to Reply #42 |
50. Wow -- talk about blaming the messenger |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 08:54 AM Response to Reply #50 |
92. The expression "blame the messenger" |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 11:51 AM Response to Reply #42 |
51. Care to list the baneful consequences to readers ensuing |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 12:20 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. Welcome to my Ignore List |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 04:02 PM Response to Reply #56 |
86. Thank you. Your approval means so much to me. |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 10:45 AM Response to Reply #51 |
93. Baneful consequences? Get real. |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 01:39 PM Response to Reply #42 |
78. I agree. There is a need, a reliance, a dependency by ...... |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-18-06 04:57 AM Response to Reply #42 |
102. You compare this situation to the intent to misleed that occurs |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 11:38 AM Response to Reply #31 |
44. Granma always said that the best spice for any crow recipe is |
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Hutzpa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 01:06 PM Response to Reply #31 |
70. I think you should open a thread on this issues |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
32. Good journalist. Journalist remembers meaning of journalism. - n/t |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
33. There Are No Reasons To Not Trust You Or T.O., And Every Reason For Us To. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 11:44 AM Response to Reply #33 |
47. we can trust truthout all we want here, we presumably have similar goals |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 11:59 AM Response to Reply #47 |
52. Ok, But |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 12:08 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. irrational tones and stuff like that |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 12:14 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Problem Is, |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 12:31 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. I just don't see that |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 12:59 PM Response to Reply #58 |
68. Round And Round We Go |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-19-06 09:04 PM Response to Reply #68 |
107. But Where Is The Indictment? |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-18-06 05:04 AM Response to Reply #47 |
103. Bernstein and that other guy had quite the exclusive |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
35. Jounalism in turmoil. |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
38. Oh Yes... Just Like RawStory. |
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Bumblebee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
39. It's my own damn fault but I wasted the entire day in anticipation |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
43. Cocktails in the Matrix |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 09:28 PM Response to Reply #43 |
101. I should have taken the blue pill!! |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
45. K&R |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
46. You guys have not been wrong yet, WP. |
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catnhatnh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
49. To the naysayers..... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 12:40 PM Response to Reply #49 |
60. IA there seems to be an emotional need for certainty that cannot |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 12:53 PM Response to Reply #60 |
67. is that the only need you can imagine? |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 01:21 PM Response to Reply #67 |
75. The need for certainty is met to some - others don't have that |
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The Wielding Truth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
53. Does the indictment need to be announced publicly by Fitzgerald |
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bleever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
57. I think my butt itches. |
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ArbustoBuster (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
61. I know I'm a nobody... |
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Taxloss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 12:44 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Hear hear. n/t |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 12:44 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. I'm finding it interesting. It's not whining, it's about how people |
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northamericancitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 03:34 PM Response to Reply #61 |
84. Well said. Agree 100% |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
66. The Journalists I see on TV, don't need a big fancy degree to do |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 01:33 PM Response to Reply #66 |
77. back in the nineties another |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 04:44 PM Response to Reply #77 |
88. The truth is almost extinct in today's media. |
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marions ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
79. No problem here, waiting for confirmation... |
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northamericancitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 03:39 PM Response to Reply #79 |
85. Yes it gives immense pleasure to imagine the storm they'll have to face. |
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Uncle Roy (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
83. As Our Pal Gipper used to say, "Trust, but Verify". |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-14-06 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
91. Fine by me. |
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MallRat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
96. Hey, Will. Let me fix that for you. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-15-06 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
97. You forgot #5 |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-19-06 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
104. Jounarlism 102 |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-19-06 09:02 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. I Think Ego Has A Lot To Do With That Too. |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-19-06 09:03 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. A swelled head can stretch the neck even farther :) (nt) |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-19-06 09:06 PM Response to Reply #106 |
108. Ewww! |
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Maddy McCall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-21-06 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
109. Have the cocktail journalists sobered up yet? |
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Jigarotta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-21-06 06:44 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. Shakin' or Stirred? |
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Maddy McCall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-21-06 10:46 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. How about "discombobulated." |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-21-06 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
112. Consider the MSM ownership guide and the perception management |
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