If Rove's already been indicted, then why no MSM coverage?

[joemurphy]

Has the indictment actually been filed? If so, why no copies of it circulating?

I'd hate to think that all this celebrating is premature.

[texasleo]

1. you should start a thread about it

:P

[MercutioATC]

2. Because it's only a leak at this point...no announcement from Fitz yet.

That'd be my bet.

[karlrschneider]

3. You mean SCLM coverage?

:eyes:

[Media_Lies_Daily]

4. Rove has 24 hours to respond....that was in the Truthout article.

[Maddy McCall]

7. No, that's not what it said.

It said that he has 24 hours to get his affairs in order.

[Maddy McCall]

11. .

n/t

[Maddy McCall]

12. .

Shit, wrong place again!

[joemurphy]

10. I think the order said Rove had 24 hours to get his affairs in order.

It didn't say he had 24 hours to "respond" to it. You don't "respond" to an indictment like you do in a civil lawsuit. You report to the Court, get booked, fingerprinted, and photographed by the police, and then you're held until your bail is determined and posted.

[DS1]

13. How can that be anything but irrelevant?

:shrug:

[Botany]

5. Many in the media know that the 04 election was stolen.

Yet they do not or will not say word one about it.

Fat & Happy and maybe a little scared too.

[KoKo]

6. It seems to be taking longer than Libby...but we need to remember that

ROVE is so HUGE that he has access to lawyers who are trying to "cut deals with Fitz" that we out here couldn't even dream of.. or imagine.

ROVE is the BIG FISH! They are throwing everything they have at Fitzgerald to forestall an indictment. It's done quietly, behind the scenes with a Globalist/Corporatist Media Whore Establishement cowering behind the "curtain" and they are hoping that the MIGHTY POWERS OF OZ (Carlyle/Establishment/Globalist/Corporatist/Moneybag Think Tanks) will somehow BAIL THEM OUT!

He must be the BIGGEST FISH that Fitz has ever bagged. He's the head of his own MAFIA!!! Karl Rove! ....BUSH'S BRAIN!!!

You don't land it without a struggle and when you land it you've gotta make sure you put a "stake in it's heart" because it's like "THEY LIVE" from a SciFi Movie! UGH!

[bdamomma]

8. MSM is covering up for the bush cabal

is cheney next to be indicted one can only hope.

[havocmom]

9. Keeping lid on so chimp doesn't hear?

They are probably looking for way to break news from a safe distance.

[Maddy McCall]

14. There are some problems with the article...it's vague, for one thing...

but I won't say that it's purposefully vague.

First, the article says that Rove has been given 24 hours "to get his affairs in order."

In in order for what? Announcement of the indictment? Arrest?

I'm with the handful of other DUers who said that there's just too much that's not making sense in the article.

When exactly was Rove indicted? Friday, while Fitz met over half a day, no--15 hours, no--all day, with Rove's lawyers? While the GJ discussed "other matters?" Last week? Not yet?

I want as badly as anyone for Rove to be indicted. But I'm just not going to believe it from the story that's been presented.

Some of you really should quit attacking people who utilize critical thought when they read ANY source, whether MSM or left-slanted net journal.

Let the tirades begin. :eyes:

[wishlist]

20. I agree, it seems premature terminology to say that Rove was indicted

I have my doubts that the GJ has actually voted to indict yet. All media reports I have seen do not indicate Fitz has even met with the GJ since Rove testified last month. Fitz may have just officially notified Rove's attorney that he is now a target on several charges and gave him the standard window of opportunity to discuss a plea negotiation if Rove is willing to roll over. If Rove will not deal, Fitz will then recommend charges for GJ vote the next time they meet and indictment will be presented to a judge before an official announcement is made. I just hope that Rove has no more tricks up his sleeve and that Fitz has reached the end of his tolerance of Rove's delaying tactics or we will be very disappointed at least in the short term.

[joemurphy]

21. I agree with you. The thinkprogress report is really fuzzy

about a lot of things. Why would Fitz walk an indictment over to Rove's lawyer and tell him he has 24 hours to get his affairs in order and why spend more than a half day or 15 hours at Rove lawyer's?

This hasn't been Fitz's style in the past. Fitz just files the indictment and then holds a press conference.

And why file a sealed indictment? So it'll be opened on Monday? Surely they aren't going to "arrest" Rove on Monday. Rather, he'll be told to report for booking and he'll report.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

[riderinthestorm]

24. Will Pitt just said in a different thread

That nothing's going to happen until Monday.

So this Jason Leopold article makes even less sense.

24 hours to get his affairs in order?

No mention of a GJ meeting on Friday, just (how many) hours of meetings with Rove's lawyers.....

I've put the champagne away for today.

[Maddy McCall]

30. And then he posted a "sealed indictment" thread. Duh.

Of course the indictment would be sealed over the weekend. Still, the MSM would have gotten wind of it. They have watched Fitzgerald with an eagle eye, and they also have sources inside the White House.

[riderinthestorm]

33. Yup, I saw that.

Sigh. I think DUers want this so badly, we are allowing our better judgement to get overrun with enthusiasm.

I kept thinking I was nuts for feeling like the article was, uhm, lacking clarity. I will be thrilled when Rove gets booked (and yes, Will, I will remember it was TO that called it this weekend), but Jason Leopold's article has some flaws in my opinion.

[Minnesota Libra]

15. If the indictment has been handed down then it is Media Control...........

....they can't tell the story until the WH Idiot/Cheney says it's all right you know. :shrug:

[Maddy McCall]

19. Did you see the Newsweek item posted by Burtworm?

The media already has knowledge of exactly what documents Fitzgerald filed in Libby's case last night, but they don't have news of the Rove indictment?

It just doesn't make sense.

[Jack Rabbit]

23. Read Jason Leopold's story

The indictment was delivered to Rove's attorneys Friday. I was probably not part of the document to which Newsweek refers.

[riderinthestorm]

25. Jason Leopold also implies that Rove would be perp walked today

And that's not going to happen per Will Pitt.

[Maddy McCall]

27. Who knows what Leopold was implying. The article was so vague...

that it really contains any information that is important to prove the veracity of the article. :shrug:

[Maddy McCall]

26. I know what the article said.

What I am saying is that the media can get hold of specific documents related to the Libby indictment, but they can't even get wind of the Rove indictment?

[savemefromdumbya]

42. Has anybody contacted the MEDIA?

[robbedvoter]

16. Poll ongoing now: will OBL win if W is deprived of a brain?

MSM didn't get the dictation yet - Fox is still working on the memo.
Poll needs to go out the same time as the news.

[madmunchie]

17. How long did it take to find out that the VP shot his buddy in the face?

That is why

[Maddy McCall]

22. That happened on a ranch in Texas, not in the halls of D.C.

Quite a bit of difference in the two situations.

Again, Burtworm posted a Newsweek story in which it was reported that Fitzgerald filed documents on the Libby case last night, and the story told exactly which documents he filed. The media are watching Fitzgerald. Yet they aren't aware that Rove was indicted?

[madmunchie]

41. Smells from here

Not to nitpick, since when did the halls of Washington easily share information with msm or anybody else for that matter? To me the Washington halls are less easier to penetrate than just about anywhere else.

[Jack Rabbit]

18. If it is true (and I believe it is), then Mr. Leopold has scooped them all

The MSM is waiting for an announcement from Fitzgerald. Apparently, Mr. Leopold has from good sources that the indictment was delivered to Rove's attorneys by Fitzgerald yesterday.

I think it is fitting in this age of White House whores who cover up for for Bush (as opposed to Nixon's White House horrors which were uncovered by the press) that a hard working internet journalist gets the story.

Congratulations, Jason Leopold.

[demobabe]

28. If an indictment had been filed even if it were sealed, we would've known

That would have been a matter of public record. The article doesn't make sense.

Newsweek was right there and they missed Fitzgerald filing an indictment? The GJ has to vote on it anyway, so the more you look at the story, the more it falls apart.

[Garbo 2004]

36. I think the point of a sealed indictment is that it is not a matter of

public record until it is unsealed. So even the fact that an indictment has been made, if it is a sealed indictment, would not publicly be disclosed.

[Maddy McCall]

37. I think everyone knows what a sealed indictment is.

[Garbo 2004]

39. Except perhaps the poster I responded to who said a sealed indictment

would be a matter of public record.

[debbierlus]

29. He has NOT been indicted, YET

The Truthout article doesn't say he wasn't indicted, it said that Rove told Bush that he was GOING to be indicted.

[Maddy McCall]

32. "Karl Rove Indicted on Charges of Perjury, Lying to Investigators"

How does that say anything BUT that Rove has already been indicted. Past tense, not future tense. Doesn't say "to be indicted." It says "indicted." As does Will's thread title.

[debbierlus]

31. This is IMPOSSIBLE to cover up, Fitz will have a press conference

[Maddy McCall]

34. KICK

[Tactical Progressive]

35. You mean like round-the-clock, round-the-dial coverage of Monicagate

for days before and days after any tidbit of ultimately bs information was about to be released? Over and over and over and over again. For the better part of a year and a half. The cable news networks had every one of their shows speculating on rumors of what MIGHT be forthcoming and what it MIGHT mean. Starting from the first day that Monica was uncovered they were talking about how this might impeach Bill Clinton. They weren't following, they were breathlessly, vociferously leading the impeachment promotion as an unaffiliated part of the Republican pack going after Clinton.

Now, with real crimes, and real coverups of the most blatantly corrupt administration in a hundred years, doing real damage to our national security and real damage to all American's civil liberties, they have to respectfully wait for official action. They didn't need actual subpoenas, or even credible sources, or really anything at all to spend all of their broadcast time attacking the Clintons, both, on every one of their shows.

Here we have the VP's chief of staff going down for felonies, the president's 'brain' up next, and solid implications of both the VP and the president themselves for real crimes involving national security. And at the cable news networks? Dan Abrams is talking about the DNA under a lacrosse player's fingernail. And he's serious. As serious as the rest of CNN and MSNBC uncovering this administration's crimes, which is to say they just want them to go away and will do their part as well as they did their part ginning up attacks on Clinton.

That's why so little msm converage.

[Bryan]

38. A fine argument, as far as it goes

But how would the foreign press fit into that scenario? The Observer, The Guardian, Reuters, AFP-wouldn't their reporters be all over this story like an open bar?

I concede that it's possible that Truthout is just that much further ahead than everyone else on this story, and if they are, all involved are to be congratulated. Hopefully, I'll be feeling very sheepish later this week. But something this large happening without comment from multiple sources?

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

40. If the MSM had in fact been scooped on this, now that TO has released

the story, wouldn't they have played "catchup" by now? :shrug:

[savemefromdumbya]

43. Anybody contacted the New York Times or the Washpost yet?

[deutsey]

44. You mean the way they covered the false intelligence leading us to

invade Iraq?

The voting irregularities in Florida and Ohio?

That MSM?

Which isn't to say I believe Leopold's story yet, but come on, the MSM will downplay this story if it's true so it's no surprise they haven't reported it.